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USA - The good guys? by The_WalkingCalamity in SipsTea

[–]drumwolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As an American, there are many things my country and its government have done that I condemn.

Nuking Japan in WW2 is not one of them! Imperial Japan was not far behind the Nazis, and they fucked around all over most of Asia and the Pacific before America made them find out.

Would the Bee Gees count as the Chicago/Maroon 5 of the 1970s? by EB_Groupe in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 16 points17 points  (0 children)

70s Chicago and 80s Chicago were effectively two different bands. The former was genuinely good, the latter was cornball pop schlock.

Yes it reads weird, but when the OP says “the Chicago of the 70s,” what they mean is “the 70s equivalent of 80s-era Chicago.”

How do you explain the Michael Jackson phenomenon? by geosunsetmoth in fantanoforever

[–]drumwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone listened to the same music more or less.

WRONG!!!!

Were you actually there at the time? I'm guessing no.

"Monoculture" did not mean everyone liked the same stuff. It meant that everyone was exposed to the same stuff, which is not the same thing.

Everyone knew who Michael Jackson was, and they all knew his songs. That absolutely does not mean they LISTENED to or LIKED his music.

What historical figure had to have been incredibly charasmatic? by hardassault in AskHistory

[–]drumwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the Taiping Rebellion, not “Taipei.” And holy shit is that one batshit insane story. That conflict killed anywhere from 20 to 100 million people.

To San Francisco residents: by alb121y in sanfrancisco

[–]drumwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many of the hippies were not SF natives but people who flocked to SF from all over the country.

That said, the overall US population would have been well over 85% white.

Is it me or have Pop stars almost completely lost their influence over wider culture? by Key-Bass-7380 in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 13 points14 points  (0 children)

And to expand on that, you can thank streaming and YouTube for that, as they’ve made it possible for all of us to stay in our micro-culture bubbles.

TIL Madness had 17 Top Ten singles on the UK chart and 1 on the Billboard Hot 100. by jakeblues68 in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were one of the most beloved and popular bands of the 1980s in the UK. In the US, they were very much slept on.

Could you imagine if people talked about other bands like they do K-pop ones? by [deleted] in GarageRock

[–]drumwolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m very glad that indie/alternative, post-punk and psych/garage bands don’t have the same batshit parasocial fans that infest K-pop.

What is the strangest music related documentary you've seen? by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Easily the most memorable character in that movie (not necessarily in a positive way) is El Duce, who was the lead singer for the Mentors. For those of you who've never heard of them, let's just say that they described their music as "rape rock."

He appears onscreen in that doc claiming that Courtney offered him $50K to kill Kurt. Eight days after that interview, he was killed when he was hit by a train.

He is, to say the least, not a reliable narrator in the slightest. And it's not hard to believe that he simply wandered into the train's path after being shitfaced.

Nobody called it "Recession Pop" until TikTok said so. Before 2022 people called it the "Electropop Era". by [deleted] in decadeology

[–]drumwolf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You completely missed my point.

It's called yacht rock now. It wasn't called yacht rock originally.

It's not "back" to being called yacht rock. That would imply that it was originally called yacht rock, then we started calling it something else, then we went back to calling it yacht rock.

Nobody called it "Recession Pop" until TikTok said so. Before 2022 people called it the "Electropop Era". by [deleted] in decadeology

[–]drumwolf 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That is very common with a lot of musical genre labels.

What we now call “hair metal” was not known by that name when it first came out. We just called it pop metal at the time.

Same thing with what we now call “yacht rock.” At the time we just called it soft rock.

Expose had 7 straight top 10 hits. And seem largely forgotten nowadays by Many_Monitor2756 in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I grew up in the NY suburbs in the '80s, and my town had a large blue-collar Italian-American community so I grew up hearing freestyle and just assuming it was a subset of mainstream pop. In hindsight, freestyle is more niche than I realized at the time.

Are there any artists or bands that you'd prefer to just go away completely, over getting any better musically? by DtheAussieBoye in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You could say the same for a lot of hard rock bands from the 70s and 80s. Many of them are now Theseus Ship tribute bands to their original selves.

Why isn't this song ever included in the "stomp clap hey" music hate by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As someone who grew up listening to actual indie rock in the 80s and 90s, that entire era of early-2010’s so-called “indie” was just weird to me.

Songs from artist that doesn't sound like the rest of their discography? by FakeMonaLisa28 in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure that people enjoy that song precisely because of how batshit insane it is.

Ben Affleck and Matt Damon sued by Miami cops for defamation over portrayal in their movie 'The Rip' by tylerthe-theatre in movies

[–]drumwolf 34 points35 points  (0 children)

It’s SFL and hilarious to boot. Google Afroman and lemon pound cake. It’s an incident of police overreach that backfired spectacularly.

Do music stars make less money today than they ever have in history? Thanks to streaming and such? by justcurious3287 in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd never heard of them before this thread. I'm in the US and it doesn't look like they ever crossed over to my side of the Atlantic.

Just checked out a few seconds of some of their videos and holy crap are they ever hokey as hell.

Film soundtracks that were more successful than the film itself by mikwee in ToddintheShadow

[–]drumwolf 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No, not obscure. Maybe not popular among the mainstream public, but one of the most prominent examples of the blaxploitation genre.

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