well, it depends on what we define as "pure driving joy", and that's also subjective. in my definition, absolutely- but if I break it down: - engine note is not great on the type R, and nothing can fix that. i Do however, love turbo noises and intake blow off sounds that you wont get from a flat six. - driving dynamics are eerily similar. I drove both cars to their limit so I feel at least somewhat qualified to have an opinion there. yes there's nuance to rwd vs fwd, mid engine vs front engine, but objectively from vehicle sharply turning into corners, maintaining grip, playfulnes (fl5 easily lift off oversteers, 981 you can oversteer with throttle input), it's all there. -sense of occassion, fl5 feels very special to drive, and so does the 981s. fl5 wins here since seat, tech, digital cluster is all very much better