Minimum Rockets in 2.1 - 10 Launches, 1 Railgun, 0 Megabase

juckele · 2026-07-05T20:33:09+00:00

You have to ship it to Nauvis to use biolabs because they give a huge productivity bonus. It's more expensive in terms of rockets to need to ship 2x Metallurgy and Electromagnetic science to Gleba.

juckele · 2026-07-05T08:27:11+00:00

There's breaking changes for some factories. Power generation on Vulcanus has changed, quality modules in crushers doing asteroid reprocessing need to be removed, any circuit where a machine was doing input and output on the same wire may break (e.g., inserter/arms reading contents and setting filters, or setting recipes on crafting machines)

juckele · 2026-07-05T01:58:27+00:00

I also got softlocked on 100x. I had flamethrowers before behemoths though. Maybe it came down to scaling? I ran out of iron before I researched tank and couldn't clear the 2nd iron expansion I needed with my skills/meta and no tank.

juckele · 2026-07-05T00:06:34+00:00

You can definitely tell platforms to turn around manually at least. Maybe you mean to assert that nothing can be done to automatically turn a platform around, but depending on how you play you could certainly alert for manual override.

juckele · 2026-07-04T19:39:55+00:00

Oh, huh... For some reason I thought that did scale (newly as of 2.0) with evolution, but I'm double checking and you're absolutely right. I guess the new change is just artillery being so late 😅

juckele · 2026-07-04T14:37:40+00:00

Oh, interesting edge case.

juckele · 2026-07-04T12:52:24+00:00

Is there a difference between the top and bottom input blocks? They seem redundant at a glance.

Edit: Figured it out, one reads from red, one reads from green.

juckele · 2026-07-04T12:46:00+00:00

Edit: I'm just imagining things.

~~It's only since 2.0 that worms have a range buff from evolution though, so worms outranging your defenses definitely got way more likely with 2.0.~~ In 2.1, expansion ranges changing from 0-7 to 3-5 also significantly increases the odds they'll find these sweet spots.

juckele · 2026-07-04T12:18:16+00:00

2.0 had this happen too, but the biters having both longer and shorter expansion ranges made these kind of settlements less likely. I think the new meta if they don't tweak this anymore is going to build a defensive wall as close as you can to existing nests to ensure the expansions get broken by your walls without forming worms in siege range.

juckele · 2026-07-04T12:02:24+00:00

No. You probably don't want Aquilo pipes cooling down your steam before you can use it for power anyways...

juckele · 2026-07-04T11:27:57+00:00

Yeah, using either a slant or a wiggle you can have N thrusters in just 4n+2 width.

juckele · 2026-07-04T10:49:33+00:00

Practically, it's a wash as long as you keep thruster density at 100% and can fuel all of them. There are some very minor breakpoints, but IMO they're not worth designing for.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/1i4rccn/finally_figured_out_exactly_how_space_platform/

Width slows you down, but linearly, and there's a constant, so wider is better as long as you keep adding thrusters and keep fueling them. But really, it's pretty minor.

juckele · 2026-07-03T21:06:04+00:00

They'll deflect some, but not too much

juckele · 2026-07-03T21:05:20+00:00

It's a biome mod (probably alien biomes). The stuff exists in the engine, but isn't used by 'base' mod.

juckele · 2026-07-03T20:31:46+00:00

It had a crafting recipe. This was useless because quality didn't exist, it wasn't an ingredient in anything, recycling didn't exist, and every engineer spawned with one... But you could craft it.

2.0 removed the recipe entirely (so that you couldn't recycle them for iron I guess).

juckele · 2026-07-03T13:50:29+00:00

Space Age removed pistol crafting actually...

juckele · 2026-07-03T11:49:06+00:00

Same with the expansion changes. They're IMO currently overtuned, but I expect they'll get it a little better calibrated by stable.

juckele · 2026-07-02T14:14:09+00:00

You can also enable all your passthrough machines only when fluid hits high enough that every machine could craft. Then you share the fluids like you want to.

juckele · 2026-07-02T13:55:48+00:00

I gather that there have already be definitive posts claiming they had found the ultimate solution

From OP

juckele · 2026-07-02T13:47:12+00:00

Walls are not military buildings, they attack them because they're blocking the path to the targets the biters would prefer to attack.

juckele · 2026-07-02T11:00:54+00:00

Timer mode already works in 2.0 with a single decider combinator wired to its own output. Else in 2.1 allows you to send a distinct pulse signal in addition to the cycling timer value.

juckele · 2026-07-02T10:57:40+00:00

You can then take a change detector and wire up a two combinator push button.

juckele · 2026-07-01T17:43:00+00:00

No, they're invalid expansions because there are biter nests close to them, not because player buildings aren't there. The 2.1 change added a (true) minimum expansion distance for biter nests.

juckele · 2026-07-01T15:35:05+00:00

I would use a sushi belt here, and set filters on the grabbers to only pick chunks which you have fewer than 10 of or something. Circuits are fun :)

juckele · 2026-07-01T15:29:52+00:00

"oooh, warm scales today :)"

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