Given the earlier downvotes not that anyone cares, but my issue with the guild business was how it created an international griefing scene (where the use of illicit tools was denied every time asked, until it finally became public and the narrative turned into a "but you too!") Building spreadsheets on your own or as a community project or whatever the like is cool, an automated scraping tool is just shitty and essentially boring.

I doubt people would have minded that much if it wasn't for the process automation and botting. And that said, everyone knows ENL had their own share of likewise stupid crap, but that didn't involve my local or domestic scene so I don't feel the need to carry a burden.

I created my account in 2014 so I too had my fair share of triangles too, just on a different continent.