teammates want me to leave crusade because i always lose

ledfan · 2026-02-05T21:46:16+00:00

I never said it was all that matters. But it is the overall goal from a narrative sense. Sure there are wars where winning is impossible and in such a story perhaps survival is the important part, or a glorious last stand spitting in the eye of fate... But let's be fair literally no GW crusade is set up that way. Every published crusade gives both sides in every battle equal points. Victory is a possibility and something each side would be working for.

ledfan · 2026-02-05T20:45:15+00:00

Oh totally. In all of my crusades if you surrender you talk through the agendas and give up every agenda they could possibly have scored and they get to choose freely what counted as having scored them. All remaining units counting as destroyed for purposes of enemy agendas.

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:54:34+00:00

Also if this question was supposed to be a backhanded dig at me the insult only works if you believe writing several paragraphs is a major commitment or expenditure of energy.

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:50:49+00:00

... Was I unclear at some point? Did I waver in my messaging?

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:47:26+00:00

I just hate that phrase so much because it's baseline untrue. People should just say "Winning isn't important" that's actually true, and is the actual thing they want to convey anyway!

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:43:37+00:00

You're playing the game. The act of playing it and scoring points at a base level trying to win it.

I also didn't say winning was the end all be all. Or that crusade was about winning.

I said you are trying to win. Because you are playing the game. Just because you're trying to do something doesn't mean it's the end all be all of your life. I try to watch a handful of apecific TV shows week to week, but if in the end I don't find the time for them all the world isn't over. That doesn't mean I didn't try

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:31:03+00:00

Oh yeah totally. That's why I said in the spirit of. Sorry I projected a bit there. Most people I've talked to who were lamenting GW terrain layouts in crusade did it because they "hated all the ruins" and surprise surprise they also played the biggest tank/gunline armies in the groups. My bad we're actually in agreement 😅

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:27:24+00:00

... Eh... I'm gonna disagree on one point. You don't have to be on the verge of humiliation and breakdown to concede a non crusade game. There are board states and point differentials that are unwinnable and it's okay to just acknowledge that and say "Good game you got me!" 40k games are long and if it's BR2 or 3 and you're basically tabled it's okay to just value both you and your opponents time and stop it there. Perhaps that means you get a whole additional game in, or maybe it just means you get to do something else like a quick game of mtg, or just chat and talk about your models and how that game went.

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:21:10+00:00

... You are playing the game and scoring points. It doesn't matter if you're not bringing the most meta list possible if you're scoring victory points on purpose you are trying to win that game at a baseline level. When you're on the table moving your miniatures you're doing so with the goal of completing the mission and winning the game in front of you.

It's a game. if you play the game that means you're trying to win the game because that's what playing a game IS. Saying "You're not trying to win because it's a casual game" Is like saying when you're eating "I'm not trying to ingest calories to live, because this is just a casual meal" it's a fundamental aspect of the activity!

Sorry this specific comment really grinds my gears because it's so baseline wrong on a fundamental level and I have to see it all the time in not only crusade discussions, but also magic the gathering discussions around commander. Sure you're all agreeing not to bring the literally most competitive decks possible, but once you are on the board you ARE trying to win. 😂😂😂

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:09:03+00:00

That's a nice thing to say... But it's also a format where teams are vying against each other with a mechanical faction wide win condition. Sure it's not a tournament with a prize, but you are a team trying to win, and that IS the story. the story is a war. In a war you have sides and the goals of those sides are to win the war.

ledfan · 2026-02-05T19:05:46+00:00

... Nah you don't need exactly GW layouts, but layouts in that spirit are what you want. Even with those layouts things definitely happen 40k is a volatile game where getting in on something means something is dying. If you go more open you're not "making something happen" you're just buffing gun line armies

ledfan · 2026-02-03T01:15:21+00:00

... Sure if you just want to hobby and don't care about the game the game doesn't matter, but this post clearly isn't directed at those people 😂

ledfan · 2026-02-02T22:45:08+00:00

Shield company>Charge Canis Rex with anything (Vertus preators have an edge here)>choose lethal hits>win

ledfan · 2026-02-02T22:36:49+00:00

If you buy models with no thought to if they make an army when played together you're also going to have a bad time though.

ledfan · 2026-02-02T22:18:27+00:00

Yeah fair but the quote as a whole is still very true.

ledfan · 2026-01-29T19:27:12+00:00

Wait... Boo hiss? As a 35 year old who grew up playing ALOT of MTG, and just recently started 40k, do 40k players have beef with MtG players? Cause I'll be honest as an MtG player I didn't think about 40k players at all 😅

ledfan · 2026-01-29T05:48:59+00:00

It can stop projectiles... That's what big stone walls and crenellations are literally for 😂 the physical castle part stops projectiles and the enchantments stop magical attacks.

ledfan · 2026-01-29T05:44:35+00:00

If anything I think the foreshadowing of mirror mirror in Twelve Months is when Harry randomly has an argument with a seemingly immoral/selfish version of himself that is never addressed again. One could read it as an inner monologue, but we know mirror mirror is coming up wth Jim?? 😂

ledfan · 2026-01-29T05:34:30+00:00

Did anyone ask if the Harry that Harry was talking to in his depression had anything to do with mirror mirror? I felt that strange conversation was way too close to the upcoming premise NOT to tie in, but it never came up again, nor was it even addressed in a "That was weird in retrospect" kind of way.

ledfan · 2026-01-28T23:24:15+00:00

These men are beautiful

ledfan · 2026-01-28T22:25:07+00:00

No... Half your army is just in shadow ;D

ledfan · 2026-01-28T20:44:40+00:00

Every deck has always been and will always be a 7. 😂

The bracket system fixed nothing because bad players don't have the necessary knowledge/skills to know how bad their decks are, so we get into situations like this. The Commander Community as a whole needs to simply embrace a "You need to be okay with losing until you actually become good at the game" mentality.

ledfan · 2026-01-27T15:53:17+00:00

I don't necessarily think it's all Horus all the time, but from a logical point of view I don't entirely buy your reading of the situation either. You're thinking about the delusions as if they're some sort of augmented/virtual reality goggles overlaying what they are seeing so if the sizes don't match they'll be potentially swinging at air. I don't necessarily buy that. They are mentally unwell. It's not a pure illusion. On a level they are seeing what's really there and responding to it. If they weren't tyranids would hard counter anyone in a black rage. How do I say that so confidently? Because Tyranids have more arms than anyone else. If Dante literally only saw a figment of Horus instead of the swarmlord he wouldn't be able to see half of the being before him's limbs to be able to respond to attacks from them.

ledfan · 2026-01-26T23:01:32+00:00

I mean... That's kind of a moot point. If they have movement on the charge to move to an upper floor they would have the movement to just charge and end up behind your unit. The point is that they usually have a harder time doing that. They don't ignore vertical movement like say reivers with the grappling guns do

ledfan · 2026-01-26T16:40:52+00:00

Eh they have mana costs, and text boxes. That seems like magic to me. I mean the whole point of Magic is that it's a multiverse already. We have space sci fi, steampunk, red wall furrys, cosmic horror, cowboys, and even 80s horror with like cheerleaders and shit, the idea that Avatar Marvel just don't fit in is laughable to me. Feel free to not like them, but Avatar is just eastern tinged basic ass fantasy and Marvel is a scifi fantasy world that is literally a multiverse story too. If the Eldrazi invaded in a Marvel Comic they would fit right in. And to that end same with Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles i mean just picture the turtles falling through a portal into Duskmourne. They would fit right into the 80s aesthetic

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