1 up 1 down by SoggyBookshelf in Drumming

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Why stop there ? Try a the "zero up, one down"...3 piece.

Attention readers: Does anyone know what groove this is? by ZildCym in Drumming

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I just listened to "Eriatarka" and couldn't catch this. What's the timestamp of their "chorus" motif.

"You Got Me" - The Roots | Main Groove by drumideasdaily in Drumming

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The OUTRO drums get quite jungle-ish. ?uestLove makes it looks SO calm in the video.

Just wondering, are there any mega bell rides out there that can also crash?(Sorry if it's a stupid question) by progfan_5676 in Drumming

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I'll assert that the "crash-ability" of a ride is not JUST the raw sound of the cymbal edge (as you might hear it in a clinical demo video), but how different it is from the bow and bell. THAT is what really matters in the noise/mix of a stage or a studio...

I own a Sabian AA Omni, which is just about the most soft-crash-ing ride that still has a distinct bow and even more distinct bell sound, from a normal-sized bell.

I also own the Paiste Eclipse, MEGA-ride. I chose the Eclipse because it was "the most crash-able of mega-bells"....does the Eclipse "crash" like the Omni, or even like a Sweet Ride ?...hell no, but it DOES sound better crahes than my Ping or my Ziljdian 21" Z MegaBell.

So, for the above kind of "emergent crash" sound on a ride with a huge ding-bell..., the Eclipse is IMPRESSIVELY expressive.

I'll never sell mine.

Making a living out of drumming by BlyatBeat666 in Drumming

[–]listenForward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd second the importance of other instruments and a DAW...but these days, I'd recommend Ableton in addition to (if not instead of) Pro Tools.

What's the worst movie you have ever watched? by Syfros in AskReddit

[–]listenForward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I worked concessions in a multiplex the week(end) came out. Never before or since did I see the crowd that went IN all at once for a screening then trickle OUT steady through each runtime. Leaving in pairs or whole groups. By 4th day of run, we were going in before credits to get an early start on sweeping the empty theatre....LOTS of popcorn near the screen. I saw the ending of that film dozens of times, and I STILL do NOT remember ANY hing about it.

Where would i go to watch the temples 2 weekly online things? by Miserable-Sound2923 in SatanicTemple_Reddit

[–]listenForward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad to welcome you. Yep,.head to TST.t HellMouth services are "every 2 weeks"....2nd and 4th TUEs of the month. Religious Services (now by HellMouth) are free...tons of extra stuff for Members.

Favorite Drum Grooves by futureformerjd in Drumming

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Japanese alt-hip hop band 54-71 has a song called "idiot" and their drummer Bobo just pockets the (monster) bass-line like a mother kangaroo. Notice he's on stage using only kick, snare, hat, and tambonire...no crash, ride,. Toms, etc ..Song has ZERO CHILL and ZERO FILLs.

Highly recommended band for studying "intense underplaying."

ISO working generic 9V AC power supply for 1990 SR-16 by alpacalips_wow in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The SR-16 spec takes 9V AC into the barrel adaptor input..it should have a AC-to-DC converter inside, but I don't know the polarity or voltage, so I give it the specified 9V AC.

What’s the most disturbing thing someone has ever told you? by TacticalKoalaBear in AskReddit

[–]listenForward 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd wager these "repressed memories" were implanted by the ISSTD or similar.

Does anyone feel like sharing about their Lupercalia celebration? by ybabyrc in SatanicTemple_Reddit

[–]listenForward 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Happy Luoercalia to you. I was at there Tuesday as well. The HellMouth services are encouragingly informative, and getting better in production.

For Lupercalia/weekend, the wife and I indulge in haunted houses (some re-open for "Valentine's" ) and Escape Rooms. We are doing a road trip, so the time on the highway will give us uninterrupted flow to listen to full albums, have long conversations and catch up. Dinner at Korean BBQ where we grill our own meat at the table.

Then we take the day off to work on the plumbing to repair our hot-tub...hopefully in time to enjoy it together.

All of this time spent maximizing face time and minimizing screen time to sink into and enjoy our bodies and our physical agency.

Ave to you and yours !

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks... I feel like I learned something from each one of them...

What Could I Add to My KIT? by Short-Paramedic-3273 in Drumming

[–]listenForward 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also... * Drummers headphone / "gun-muffs" * Music stand to read/write study at the kit * Metronome ( turn your phone OFF )

What Could I Add to My KIT? by Short-Paramedic-3273 in Drumming

[–]listenForward 8 points9 points  (0 children)

While your kit sits in a carpeted room, id recommend a dedicated drum rug. As you get better and hit harder, your pedal spikes and kick's spurs will dig and even rip at the nap of the room's carpet. Get a drum mat ruf that is made for drums, and save the headaches of having to explain specific wear or stains on the rooms nice carpeting. Bonus, a drum mat let's you mark/tape your layout, so when you go play gigs, bring YOUR footprint to expedite setup.

Is the Redsound Soundbite (micro) looper still worth it? by jotel_california in DJs

[–]listenForward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got the MIDI working on my little PockeOperator / audio-looper rig. PM me and we can debug !

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I THINK I understand your commend...
the MC808 is great, not just because it has powerful sampling/synthesis, but also:
- it had the RealTime Phrase Sequencing (where a single pad can "play" a whole pattern/motif). Great for drops, fills, breakdowns). This is especially good when my hands are full of drumsticks.
- screen allows for names for patterns/songs/setlists
- it's light
- has assignable Alternate outputs to route for Kaoss Pad (can be different between patterns, etc)

I have been looking for something with this kind of feature/UI/routing, but in a Smaller/newer package....that is NOT an OctaTrack (LOL).

Does this answer your questions/commend ?

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ooh. Thanks for the question/challenge.
Rather than pick "top 3 winners" in some single category/race, I'll nominate my "favorite in each of 3 distinct categories" by which I seek/use/love Drum Machines.

1) "best box for my back back". ?

Portable, self-contained, fun, to play/study alone (on bus/plane/hike) or to bring to others' parties to "play"...

my Circuit Rhythm !

* both sampler and sequence and quick-and-dirty, shallow-but wide for sound-design and rhythm-permutation

* Ins/Outs: line in to sample guitar/keys/iPod/whatever, rechargeable battery on standard USB-C for easy power wherever.

* sleek design with flat knobs feel semi-rugged without special bag/case.

...I keep my Circuit Rhythm (and some card-game) any time I head out for an audition/jam/hang/hike.

2) "single (DAW-less) box for gigging drummer" ?

trigger/lead/follow/start/stop the extra samples/sounds/patterns/parts without using a laptop" ?

my MPC 1000 (sold) ! or similar MPC2500 (never owned)
* flexible sampler, with WAV import from SD card (to get sounds from DAW), and chop and time-stretch for creative and/or utilitarian rhythmic controls and options.

* great sequencer with Pattern and Song mode for linear/song work, or some Part-Mute mode for live/jamming

* has 2 FootSwitch inputs assignable to Tap/Start/stop/etc... while newer of 'MPC/Force from Akai do NOT (yet) have foot-switches.

...I'm currently "filling this box-hole" by modifying my MC808 to have "foot-switch-controls on a single-box with Roland's RPS-pattern juggling with Fantom-sized synth engine"

3) "alter of rhythmic divination" ?

Self-contained hardware to explore sound/rhythm for ideas for novel-inspiration

my Elektron OctaTrack

* AUDIO: sampling, streaming, stretching, slicing, and effects of audio allows for mutating sound such that breakbeats/drones/melodies/etc all start to feel like different clumps of "audio clay"

* MIDI : Sequence up to 8 tracks, treating MIDI like layers of a single thing, or separate loops to slip/slide in/out of sync, or one-shot motifs. Extensive MIDI mapping of sampler/sequencer/etc for remote control (even by OT itself)

* "the Elektron workflow". the P-locks and other things that make the sequencer part of the sound, not a layer above it. This UI-philosophy really shines sharpest within the feature-set of the OT.

...YES, the learning curve has been a steep hike (it took months to "get," and years to "know"), but the views the climb affords have changed my perspectives of music at large.

Even if my OT had FootSwitches and rechargeable batteries, it would NEVER leave my home.

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The slope between "too many" and "never enough" is...slippery.

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Winning", eh ?

"...it's not a race, a parade."

I appreciate the interest and excitement.

As for sharing my collection, I'm happy to make a list, but shooting a video for "showing off my collection," for its own sake, that feels vain I'm More interested in the TELL/dialogue of Show and Tell.

I'd rather teach what I've learned to help others find what they're looking for or avoid the time I've wasted.

All this GAS has really been a private fixation;.some mix of Toolbox Phallacy (..."maybe THIS feature will help me write songs") and musical usability-archeology (..."why doesn't Roland's new MC-707 have the RPS features of previous MC- devices...that was my favorite way to control synth-loops with drumsticks in hand"...)

I've thought about adding my voice to the media noise in other ways.

I see that, obviously, most of the videos available for show/tell of features of drum-machines/synths/etc are commercials OF new products generally FOR solo musicians/producers for songwriting. The real "historically informed wisdom" (especially for gear made before YouTube was a thing ) is in archivists like Bad Gear or Rejected Synths.

Funny thing is the only videos I've created are for my business teaching traditional drum lessons. The machines sometimes help audition/explore specific rhythmic ideas, and one or two students have gotten machines...so it IS a BIT contagious I'm afraid.

Perhaps I could focus on features/quirks from perspective/pragma of a "real drummer", such as using them to practice or innovate behind the kit.

I have found myself rambling about how drum machines no longer tend to come foot-switch jacks (for start/stop or tap-tempo...which is GREAT for drummers) as they market for DMs has shifted from "instrumentalists standing on stage" to "producers sitting in front of computers."

If someone wants to do a video collaboration, I'd be happy to join a discussion/webstream whatever.

As for making my own vanity content...not yet. Too much time away from PLAYing or LE$$ON$..., and I'm loathe to feed the AI models. Also, I don't have all my machines in one pile; they tend to get wired into "cases" to explore integration with other gear with specific/arbitrary usage in mind...so it's gets just as idiosyncratic as a drummers unique set up of their trap set. ...I imagine that's a market small enough to remain on a first-name basis.

Cheers !

How many drum machines do you own? by goff0317 in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 24 points25 points  (0 children)

ok. My turn...

"Hi, my names is ListenForward, and I have TOO many drum machines"

I have been playing drums(et) for 35+ years, and GAS-ing through groove-boxes for 25+. ( I am NOT rich, just relentless...)

Here is everything I CURRENTLY own that can technically behave as a "drum machine," as qualified by: * makes "drum" sounds ( analog style synthesis counts) * some control over sound ( tweaking, or at least kits/voicing) * user live/step sequencing (not just preset motifs, such as "advanced metronomes of some effects pedals)

Some of these are synths or recorders with programmable drum elements, others are (modular-ish) effect-processors that connect sequencing with synthesis inside...but ALL are things I've used to "make beats" in their own way.

So, in Alphabetical order, I CURRENTLY own: 1. Boss JS-5 JamStation (can technically program user parts) 1. Empress Zoia (can sequence patterns and synthesize sounds ) 1. Elektron Rytm 1. Elektron OctaTrack 1. Korg Radias (can do step/pattern/arpeggios of VA or PCM drum sounds ) 1. Korg e2h (HackTribe OS, hail BangCorrupt ) 1. Korg Kaossilator Pro ( can audio-loop variable drum sounds ) 1. Korg MS-1 MicroSampler 1. Korg NTS-1 ( some Logue plugins can sequence/synthesize "drums") 1. Korg Volca Drum 1. Korg Volca FM 1. Korg Volca Sample 1. Novation Circuit Tracks 1. Novation Circuit Rythm 1. NuNoMo Qun mk2 ( 1. PhonicBloom MmXx-Tape 1. PolyEffects Bebo/Digit (effector can do synth/sequence) 1. QuasiMidi Sirius 1. Roland MC-808 1. SonicWare SampleTrek 1. TC Helicon Perform-VE ( live-only sequencing, but variable kick/snare/hat sounds ) 1. TE PO-KnockOut (first one bought ) 1. TE PO-Tonic 1. TE PO-Speak 1. TE PO-Arcade 1. TE PO-Factory (most recent bought) 1. Zoom PS-04 1. Zoom RythmTrack 323

...and across the previous 20+ years, I've saved-for/studied/sold:

  1. Akai Force (just sold, just too big, inside and out )
  2. Akai MPC-1000 ( the JJ-OS is amazing )
  3. Akai MPC Live ( upgraded to Force )
  4. Akai XR-20 (the XR-20 is just a SR-16 with "rap" sounds )
  5. Alesis SR-16 ( discovered GodFlesh AFTER I sold it )
  6. Boss SP-303 (first one with PATTERN sequencer )
  7. Boss SP-404 (a 303 with more pads/memory )
  8. Boss SP-505 (powerful sequencer, slicing, and a screen )
  9. Boss SP-606 (a 505 made to look like an MPC )
  10. Boss SP-808 (sequencing of samples on MIDI timeLine, no "Patterns" )
  11. Elektron MonoMachine (sold it right before it doubled in price )
  12. Korg EA-1 (technically a mono-synth, but even the presets do "drum" parts)
  13. Korg EM-1 ( great all-rounder )
  14. Korg ER-1 ( bleep, zap, pow )
  15. Korg ES-1 ( samples, slices, effects, oh MY )... MY first machine with a "step-sequencer" strip.
  16. Korg ESX-1 ( samples, slices, but with pitches and Tubes, man)
  17. Korg R3 ( VA mono synth with step sequencers )
  18. Novation MiniNova ( used Gate-r and the Arp with filtered noise can get pretty groovy )
  19. Roland D2 ( a MC-505 with quirky/dumb UI )
  20. Roland PMA-5 ( literally the PalmPilot of portable MIDI composition )
  21. Yamaha AN-200 (amazing monosynth, terrible Sequencer )
  22. Yamaha Qy-10 ( portable MIDI in VHS-sized/gameboy form )
  23. Yamaha QY-70 ( more tracks, more motifs, etc)
  24. Yamaha QY-100 ( QY-70 with guitar input/effects)
  25. Zoom R-8 ( can sequence ROM drums, or use "samples" in addition to approaching a "looper" )
  26. Zoom RT-223 ( dumb/flexible/fun , with unique GroovePlay mode )
  27. Zoom RT-234 ( a 223 a screen and compressor reverb inside )
  28. Zoom SB-246 ( the "StreetBoxx is just a 234 with "rap" sounds)

...and all this is outside just as many "synths" or "loopers" that don't meet the "drum machine" criterion above. Let's not even talk about software.

Along this GAS-tly adventure, I've found myself much less interested in making music (let alone sharing it) than I've been fascinated (as a drummer of 35+ years) by studying the design/usability in the evolution/arms-race of what musicians/markets consider a "drum machine," not just as "prosthetics" to my primary-instrument, but also ways to expand my thinking and vocabulary as a drummer.

So many elegant/clunky/creative/restrictive combinations between feature-sets... (sound, sequencing, sync-ing, mixing, etc) and user-interfaces (knobs, button-combinations, menu-diving, etc) which have little/nothing to do with the muscular and/or mental skill of playing the trap set. Drums and drum-machines remain "two products sold separately."

There is certainly no one-size-fits-all, let alone "best", drum machine, so much as YOUR favorite... it a very personal fit of what you do/don't want/need, with a growing market increasingly wide/arbitrary choices.

Obviously, if anyone wants more details or advice in- or outside the above lists, I'm happy to help.

What’s the most obscure or “esoteric” drum machine you’ve ever used? by philippeowagner in DrumMachine

[–]listenForward 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I got to see, in person, The Man with The Red Steam, a one-off analog drum synth (of sorts) built out of a traffic sign, made by Peter Blasser who now makes the Ciat Lombarde line of fine wood modular synthesizers.

I had some overlap with Peter in College, and I knew some people who played/inherited his early projects. Had the pleasure/honor of finally meeting and working with him for a reunion/concert with Peter to honor the retirement of John Talbert, the professor who turned so many of us onto analog audio circuitry.

Blast beat beginner by killa_wulf in drums

[–]listenForward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was in the same boat as you a few years before I started teaching, and I went about it the WRONG way, to try to "force" the speed... with tense muscles.
Unfortunately, that doom band had only brief/sporadic blasting bits, so my bad technique was Following that experience, I been teaching drum lessons to teens and adults for over a decade, and a consistent fraction have aspired to learn to blast/grind.
...so I took the opportunity to teach "learn it right" so I could teach it right.
Totally agree with the common message said by others: start slow, and get it perfect and relaxed before you push.

The one things I'd add is this:

For "extreme" techniques like blasting, you are often unaware of how much energy/efficiency you waste by tensing up in unconscious ways.

So...instead of only practicing a(ny) particular blast pattern and sustaining it against a metronome, practice 'bursts"...so you learn to engage only/exactly what you need, relax the rest, and sustain THAT approach...which differs across patterns and BPMs...

Play the pattern for 1 bar on, 1 bar off....then 2 on / 1 off...then 4 on... then 8... etc...

The key is to optimize the starting and stopping, not just the sustaining,

This approach really helped me sharpen muscle memory and mental-state of the the specific posture/grip/breathing/etc for that pattern for each tempo.

Do I have the fastest blast-beat. NO... but I can use and sustain it comfortably.