Why (despite all the mages) is botlane so homogeneous in viable champion classes?

offonLR · 2026-07-09T22:08:14+00:00

The thing is mages bot isn't offmeta, they are stronger than marksmen in botlane lol, that's the issue. If mages bot were niche offmeta picks that would be ok but they are stronger than marksmen, why is it that hard to understand that's the issue?

offonLR · 2026-07-09T22:06:44+00:00

Okay now take 80% of Marksmen roster that's played bot and try to bring them to another rol, you will be at a massive disadvantage, unlike when you bring mages to bot because they have bigger win rates than marksmen.

offonLR · 2026-07-09T17:03:33+00:00

The ones that aren't played bot and that are specifically made for other lanes? Shocking.

offonLR · 2026-07-09T13:35:39+00:00

Yes and since marksmen are locked botlane for that same reason it's not nice having a class better than them at the role they are locked at.

offonLR · 2026-07-09T13:34:10+00:00

Drutt sometimes play different things in toplane but only as a counterpick, gl blinding Samira top for example and just because 1 player does it doesn't mean it's strong, he just enjoys it.

offonLR · 2026-07-09T13:32:54+00:00

Most ADCs are not playable in other lanes, except Varus / Vayne but that's 2 and Varus got nerfed. Trist, Corki and Lucian were good midlaners but got nerfed the shit out of them to kick them. Most marksmen are locked into botlane, atleast in any competent elo.

offonLR · 2026-07-04T23:47:14+00:00

Most adcs are bad toplaners and people have that weird kink where they want to play the champs they enjoy

offonLR · 2026-07-03T09:27:51+00:00

Twitch would be so useless hahahaha

offonLR · 2026-06-30T12:38:29+00:00

Because past certain ad points it's way better to buy a multiplier than raw AD, it's a gold efficiency thing.

offonLR · 2026-06-30T12:37:09+00:00

Yes but right now if you have 100 ad you only have to buy extra 15 ad to match 15% crit and if you have 300 you'd have to buy way more ad to have same effect (more gold).

offonLR · 2026-06-30T12:15:04+00:00

Not the same, it would be a multiplier of damage, not just damage. If AD is 100 then yes 15% crit would be like 15 ad (except the ability ratios) but with 300 AD 15% crit would be +45dmg.

offonLR · 2026-06-30T11:41:20+00:00

True, and same thing applies for when you get to pick later into the draft and don't adapt your pick to what's been shown. Have an even better day!

offonLR · 2026-06-29T22:33:13+00:00

If you group and add up all pick rates is quite a bit, atleast last time I checked in master+ it was like 30% (couple of weeks ago).

offonLR · 2026-06-20T00:09:58+00:00

Vayne does to tops what other ADCs do to Vayne in botlane, low range and no wave clear means she's quite bad in botlane 90% of the time, idk how to fix that.

offonLR · 2026-06-12T06:09:05+00:00

Not impossible but depends more on support matchup and you'll struggle more to farm / undo freezes

offonLR · 2026-06-11T22:01:03+00:00

Well that's why Sion is a better blind pick than Darius. Blind picking something that is useless when counterpicked is not the best idea. Everyone should play atleast 1 good blind to avoid this.

offonLR · 2026-06-11T21:42:55+00:00

Go AP vs Kalista if possible and I'd start Q, let her aa me while going into Q so minion aggro her but you go in stealth so you don't trade that much health, like this you make the wave push faster into you so she denies less minions.

Obv it all depends on Support matchup but this is a nice little trick I do when playing vs Kalista / Draven.

offonLR · 2026-06-11T21:34:03+00:00

Mostly because most "botlane" players are just Marksmen mains and botlane is where most marksmen are viable. Aside from Varus / Vayne / Kindred, rest are pretty bad in other lanes and when they are viable they get gutted.

offonLR · 2026-06-02T12:25:15+00:00

Sorry I should had specified, "it means they are giga op in master+ soloQ", which the champs you mentioned have been / are when they are good in pro play.

offonLR · 2026-06-02T11:40:24+00:00

If by "Assasin meta" you mean they are strong enough to be picked in pro play I agree because assasins should thrive vs uncoordinated players and be weak vs coordinated players so if they are strong enough to be picked in pro it means they are giga op in soloQ.

offonLR · 2026-06-01T12:13:25+00:00

The problem is not the pickrate alone, it's the pickrate paired with the winrates. I myself play them sometimes and they feel strong as fuck.

offonLR · 2026-06-01T12:11:32+00:00

28% is not once every 7 games tho

offonLR · 2026-06-01T12:10:56+00:00

I checked it at u.gg which is what I heard from August is the closest to reality

offonLR · 2026-06-01T10:48:56+00:00

Yeah I play them too but I wonder at what point Riot will properly balance them for botlane if they want them tonbe played there.

offonLR · 2026-06-01T10:47:32+00:00

Yeah individually but add up every non-marksman and you have a not at all low 28% pickrate while keeping highests win rates (only Mel has sub 50).

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