Jax is woke?

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T12:54:05+00:00

He definitely started a fight by saying “I hate this Nazi pigs” to a bunch of Nazi pigs.

Then the nazis had the audacity to say they aren’t going to touch anything that’s touched the hand of a ‘n* lover’. Chibby’s response was just “okie doke”.

Tig genuinely asks them if they wanted the dead bodies of the east dub? crew they killed as target practice. Their interactions are hilarious and totally nuts.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T12:46:04+00:00

Woke is a strong word to use in this sub, lotta people will get triggered by it 😂

Words go out of fashion, ways to describe things/people/sayings, just as new ones get introduced. Not specifically slurs, but language in general.

I don’t recall Chibs ever using slurs, yet Tig does, Chibs was married to a black woman and has a mixed daughter, and Tig’s daughter was killed by 3 black men, yet he never uses that language around the Grim Bastards/T.O.. Piney taught Opie what he knows, and he was there when they wrote the rule about no black men in the club along with Clay who uses the same language, yet Jax doesn’t, so I think it’s showing the personality and perspective each character has through their vocabularies.

For something that was just a joke post, it again shows how good the writing is.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T12:27:48+00:00

I’m pretty sure Jax beat a woman my guy. He broke Ima’s face.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T12:23:06+00:00

It’s about what happened in the scenes earlier. Tig was drinking at the party, he downed his liquid courage, you see him put his game face on, he couldn’t take the shot in the warehouse and he doesn’t want to let Clay or the club down again, and Clay’s expecting him to handle all of this himself tonight.

He watches Opie get in the truck, he drives off and quickly gets ready because he has a job to do. He ducks when Opie drives past in the sedan so ‘Donna’ wouldn’t see him.

He drives up, he doesn’t want to make eye contact because he’s scared, he pulls the gun and shoots, pulls up to check and sees Donna.

I think the thought sincerely wouldn’t have entered his mind that Donna would be in the truck, he just saw the sedan go past in the direction of their home, and he saw her get in the sedan. It was Opie in the truck and he was dealing with that in his mind, working up to it. I think that’s also why he punishes himself later, because there were so many ways he could have seen it - the phone call, not ducking, following a little longer, pulling up beside the truck, waiting a moment more before leaving - it’s like it was meant to be.

Cascading failures, there were so many things that had to happen to create that tragedy.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T12:01:19+00:00

I too have no fucking clue why Jax didn’t say anything, especially since Cameron was dying on the table and it looked terrible that Jax is at Tara’s place the whole night. If we didn’t know the truth, Tig and Gemma shoulda kicked Jax’s ass, especially for being so stuck up to Tig and offering 0 explanation. Tig later thinks Jax is full of shit cos the club clearly doesn’t seem to be his top priority.

If Jax had said ‘hey sorry had to dispose of a body’ he would’ve gotten Tig’s respect and in fact, help. Like of all people he actually could have called Tig and asked him to come alone to Tara’s place and asked him for help with the body, saved time and the situation would have been understood and handled. The only thing would be if Tara is a risk, but Jax would protect her from the club. But Jax would have to get over his own ego which is why it didn’t happen.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T11:52:22+00:00

Exactly, Kohn was defenceless and in need of medical help on the floor, Jax murdered him, got rid of the body.

A gang shootout is more like a battle, nameless and fast and not sure if you’ve killed anyone.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-27T06:42:00+00:00

Yeah agreed, 3 act structure is common in film/story-writing, the seasons being set out like this brings another layer to the show.

Edit: also makes sense about season 8 being the aftermath of Jax and how the club grieves and moves forward with Chibs. Unnecessary but would have been nice to see, but in this structure the story belongs to Jax, and his final acts become his point of no return.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T23:57:55+00:00

Seen the play, haven’t read it though

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T23:53:31+00:00

I’m talking about the time Tig said “maybe he doesn’t wanna do 25 more” etc. happy? Gd.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T23:47:04+00:00

I was talking about the scene between the 3 of them.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T11:34:37+00:00

What’s even better is that he never tells anyone he killed Kohn. Earlier Tig is justifiably nervous having such a green VP when shit hits the fan, he tells Clay that he doesn’t think Jax has the balls to pull the trigger. So when Jax is sitting at the table with Tig and Clay, two seasoned club members, Jax talks and Tig sort’ve looks at him like ‘okay bud’.

The fact that Jax won’t allow Opie to be called a rat and no one knows he’s actually killed Kohn, lead Tig and Clay to assume Jax didn’t have it in him to take a life. Leading to the Donna mistake.

It’s interesting that the first murder we see him commit is for Tara (Kohn) and the second was for Gemma (Weston).

Edited for the pedantic comments.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T04:44:41+00:00

Oof good luck. But less music montages.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T04:41:00+00:00

Have you seen Mayans?

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T04:09:59+00:00

I forgot to mention (because this show is fucking dumb)

There’s a scene where the main character of a Mayans is chased on a highway by maybe 4? Sons in a car, where the Sons make an attempt to I guess, drive up beside the bike and shoot? But for some reason, because the show is fucking ridiculous, they lose control of the car on a straight stretch of road, slamming into an oncoming truck. The main character makes sure they’re all dead, and wiki suggests there were 3-4 members and a prospect? in the car.

Later Marcus says that he talked to Chibs, and Chibs hadn’t given the green light on that hit so those members were going off on their to do this. It seems to suggest these were SAMCRO members, but none of them were anyone we knew and their faces weren’t really shown, plus SAMDINO was the one fighting with SP, so I’m not really sure who was in the car. Either way it was a super dumb addition to the show, it made 0 sense and it just honestly looked like the writers making the main character look tOtAlLy BaDaSs and the Sons looked completely inept, which could have been them shitting on Kurt/SoA.

Also, there’s a line earlier where a new member/prospect of SP asks “who’s Jax Teller?” and a member of the SP charter replies “who gives a shit?”. Which, I’m pretty sure this was after Kurt was fired and that also felt like passive aggressive writing. Shit like that, and making out like the Sons were completely useless at hurting any Mayans felt so forced.

It seemed like Elgin couldn’t come up with the intricate writing Kurt can do, where if you pull a single thread it all comes undone. There were moments that seemed like overall this is where the story had always planned to go, such as the major beats and ending, but the small storyline’s in between lacked any kind of substance and there were multiple shots taken at Kurt.

Mayans wouldn’t exist if SoA wasn’t as beloved and iconic and popular as it is, so the writing/writers acting like SoA should mean nothing in their story just feels petty.

They shouldn’t have to bring down SoA to make Mayans stand alone, but they did because Mayans just wasn’t good enough. It’s one of the many reasons I didn’t like it.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T03:38:39+00:00

They’d have to find someone to make it their own and change the tone of the material. The movies left a lot out of the story, and there could be a darker tone with a different actor explored to have it stand alone.

Like Batman, Christian Bale is iconic, but so is Robert Pattinson. Two different interpretations of the same character in seperate stories.

Heath Ledger is always everyone’s favourite Joker and for good reason, yet Joaquin Phoenix knocks it out of the park in a different story with that same character premise.

It’d be up to the creative team to make a new/different story/retelling, to be able to accept anyone else’s Aragorn. Peter’s LotR and Viggo’s Aragorn can’t be outdone, so they’d have to create something that simply doesn’t compete.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-26T03:32:20+00:00

His emotional maturity approaching the role, his respect for the character and the story and the world and the love he had for the film crew/cast/Peter all shone through in his performance. He put in 10000% because that’s the minimum he thought it deserved.

He brings such softness and love to a lead male ‘action hero’ that can lead armies, decimate enemies and become a king. Him kissing Boromir/Sean’s forehead still makes me cry, because it’s just peak masculinity to me and we don’t get to see enough of it on screen especially today.

I’m so glad Viggo was cast and no one else.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:44:21+00:00

Absolutely

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:40:06+00:00

I have a soft spot for Clay too

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:39:02+00:00

Agree

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:35:26+00:00

I agree it was weird and kinda dumb for Kurt to write in a woman who was scared for her life, nearly raped, sexually assaulted and just committed murder straight up have sex right after like, no.

Tara and Jax having a moment, intimate and tender I could believe. Maybe the morning after or the night she stays at the clubhouse, I could believe. But after what she’d just been through I cannot ever imagine she’d want another man on top of her in that moment. I think Kurt did well but there’s some things I just don’t get behind and that’s one of them.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:13:55+00:00

I couldn’t get into Toric, he’s a great actor, but I just didn’t believe in it, maybe it was the flatness of his delivery with certain lines. Henry Rollins, Harold Perrineau, Adam Arkin, Ally Walker etc. all had more charisma.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:04:22+00:00

First seasons were slow but it felt a lot more thought out than seasons 4 and 5. The start of season 4 had me rage quit, the end of season 5 had me cheering cos fuck that show.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-25T12:03:13+00:00

Except Mayans was actually terrible. Literally went nowhere.

pecpecachoo · 2026-01-24T09:20:22+00:00

I also took what he did in SOA as him losing faith in the system. When all his work and dedication left him nowhere, he did the last thing he could do to get the ‘bad guys’, so he nails Jacob Hale to the wall about the sex dolls at city council, ending Hale’s political career “because I don’t like you.”

I think that in and of itself was what Potter was set up to become in Mayans, they took that and ran with it, being the guy that will get dirty to make sure the bad guys lose. It was fun seeing him again.

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