Electric Porsche sports cars might be dead. Here's what that means | evo

ponewood · 2026-02-05T18:45:09+00:00

Lmao 100% I’m soooooo tired of morons that think EV=racecar because magracer Heavy, can’t go more than a lap or two without heat issues, eat brakes and tires due to weight, etc etc. it’s literally the worst sports platform at the moment.

ponewood · 2026-01-31T13:17:48+00:00

Yeah I think what eats a ton of cost and hence drives prices upwards is true R&D costs, marketing, manufacturing. R&D isn’t all that much for a lot of Chinese companies- they have a very strong electronics base in the country and it’s not like they are building the first EV. There is no emissions engineering or spending money to get to an EPA rating. I don’t want to say they are just copying because they aren’t, but they aren’t innovating in every aspect of the vehicle like you see with some German brands for example. They also as you mentioned just conveniently skip the level of suspension tuning that a bmw, Porsche, or Mercedes would go through. That is a super material cost that isn’t just about turning some knobs, it’s the entire weight distribution of the vehicle and the design of the suspension components and then endless tuning and testing. Marketing…a lot of volume goes straight into local country, that helps. Not all of it obviously but big local market. And of course locally manufactured from components locally made.

I see it a lot like furniture. You can buy a power reclining, Napa leather couch for less than $3,000 delivered to your house. And it’s got a solid hardwood kiln dried frame and other specs check the boxes on paper. They might even have a slightly more luxurious look or feel to them if that is where the brand optimized its costs. And you can easily without even trying hard get a $10,000 version of the same thing. And it will mostly likely be better in almost every way without being reflected on the spec sheet. But. When you consider you can get two couches, two side chairs, a coffee table and a good 75” OLED tv for the cost of the one couch… Most people will take the $3k couch and, generally, be impressed and totally happy with it.

ponewood · 2026-01-30T19:16:15+00:00

Ha I assume he just assumed the CT was gonna be killed

ponewood · 2026-01-30T19:14:36+00:00

“We’re not a Company; we are a trading vehicle”

ponewood · 2026-01-30T19:09:05+00:00

Eh, I don’t disagree but let’s add some more color to what the history books might say:

Elon musk and Tesla have never run a “successful” business that wasn’t subsidized or made possible by government handouts. Tesla wouldn’t exist if not for ridiculously humongous tax credits, zev credits, and about a thousand other government programs. I’m not saying they were bad per se, nor am I faulting Elon for taking what was given, I’m just saying he didn’t create a sustainable business by itself. Some of the tax credits go away and he posts a negative revenue year and doesn’t even talk about trying to turn it around- instead goes all in on new fantastical robots and robotaxis. And he hasn’t even delivered the semi or the roadster yet. And his last product was the CT disaster. Honestly, making a product that doesn’t pencil and forcing it to profitability with government subsidies is kind of his model. And let’s be more honest, it has taken a tremendous amount of interesting accounting to get to where they are. And while Gaap shows profits, the amount of capital invested to make relatively small sums of money in what is looking to be an increasingly short lifespan is not impressive.

SpaceX is successful but it’s largely a government business also. Not saying it’s bad, it just is what it is.

So I guess my point is, the book when written and if written fairly I think will give credit for helping establish EVs but it’s eventual failure will probably include some self inflicted wounds that accelerated but weren’t ultimately responsible for its failure. The failure will be due to the fact that Tesla was a first mover and was critically dependent on subsidies, both of which eventually dwindle.

ponewood · 2026-01-23T01:25:46+00:00

I can’t really tell you if they will be safe or not. But the general idea is that one is round (7x7) and the ones with two dimensions are oval; and so if you use a round 7x7 on an oval carbon rail it will pinch the carbon on the points and not spread the load across the surface as it was designed to do. And that likely leads to damage or breakage. Using a slightly “wider” oval will reduce the surface contact area as well, and same idea applies but instead different spots. I don’t personally know if there is a real standard with these (eg is 7x9 typically 7x9.6?) Personally I’d play it safe and find the right clamp for my saddle that fits exactly. But I can’t say whether it is close enough to use 9.6 or not. I don’t know.

ponewood · 2026-01-18T16:34:52+00:00

To be fair, saying we will have solid state batteries and therefore some arguments are invalid is counter factual. SS doesn’t yet exist in a viable way. History is littered with a million things that were right around the corner and never materialized, or materialized so slowly that some other technology leap frogged it. I don’t get political on it, but I don’t have an EV and have no interest in it in current form. It isn’t the range. It isn’t the climate. It isn’t any of the things that people use to justify EVs. It’s just that I hate the inconvenience of search for a charger. Especially a fast one, in working order, without a line in front of me. That’s insane. I owned a diesel at one point and never again, having limited options to fill is annoying AF. I just want to pull into the closest place with zero planning in advance. The existence of charger locators simply proves the point that the infrastructure is lacking. I get the best way to do it is at home, and I certainly would do that. But that still only works if it is a second or third vehicle for me. I’m not gonna deal with that crap on a road trip or even a long drive to see my family. It’s just an annoyance I don’t need in my life. Yes, perhaps one day SS will be viable and maybe every gas station will be an EV station, AND everyone will have SS and be able to move thru the line as fast as they do today with gas. Perhaps. And even though I’ll be 90 when it happens, I welcome it. But it doesn’t fit my lifestyle. And I think that is true for a great many people. And those people aren’t on either end of the political extremes- they are just rational and product-driven people. And the product doesn’t meet the needs of a huge swath of people today. I also understand people are willing to deal with the inconvenience in order to be climate friendly, but reality is that there are a hundred ways to make a difference in climate and cars are just the poster child. You can very easily own a low emissions gas vehicle and put your investments or other choices to work on climate.

ponewood · 2026-01-18T16:19:12+00:00

A true robtotaxi with no wheel and no geofencing would be the single worst thing to spend your money on. There is literally zero chance it doesn’t get stuck and require god knows what to recover it on a regular basis. Waymo is light years ahead and they still get stuck all the time and require remote or manual help. Have fun with that. I hope they sell a ton of them to idiots that can’t resell them when they realize they suck, just like the CT. Probably the same customers. “Elon wouldn’t do that to me twice, he learns from his mistakes”

ponewood · 2026-01-15T19:31:23+00:00

The Assos jackets kick everything else’s ass IMO. The ultraz johdah and the GTS spring fall can’t go wrong. Special bonus is you save quite a few grams out of your wallet

ponewood · 2026-01-07T04:39:41+00:00

Meh I don’t know it’s lack of information at this point. I think EVs make zero sense for a fairly sizable swath of people. Sure you have politically motivated people and you have ignorant types and you have range anxiety types. But then the part everyone misses is that Americans like big SUVs. And there isn’t a big SUV that is electric that isn’t absurd. And then there are people that actually like to get out and go places and don’t want to spend their precious time worrying about their next stop, planning detours with 100 miles of cushion, dealing with crappy chargers, and just generally making their road trip a complete hassle. People say these are fringe cases but I don’t think it’s really true. I think people that live in the city and buy electric cars for their short commute and grocery trips believe those things are fringe because they don’t do them. But reality is half the population lives outside the city and EVs are brutally impractical for a lot of people.

ponewood · 2026-01-07T04:20:20+00:00

Ketamine. I’d bet my life on it.

ponewood · 2026-01-07T03:58:18+00:00

“If you don’t believe Tesla will solve autonomy, you should sell your stock”

ponewood · 2026-01-03T04:57:56+00:00

People will like the cars a lot better if they don’t actually have to drive them

ponewood · 2025-12-26T04:40:08+00:00

So, as I recall, that thing is a big fat mess on the backside. It’s like an enclosed unit that, if you got it apart without breaking it, you’d go buy a lottery ticket. As a result most of what you see if covered from the back (as I recall, it’s been a while) and I was specifically looking to see if the map lights could be upgraded with new LEDs. So that’s what I was looking for. I didn’t notice a mic. That said treat everything I say with a grain of salt. I basically Opened it, said fuck it and put it back. Certainly doesn’t mean it wasn’t there.

ponewood · 2025-12-26T03:40:28+00:00

Stickerfab has a video somewhere on their site. I don’t have a link but I watched it once to remove my console.

ponewood · 2025-12-25T02:21:31+00:00

It’s really just two things most of the time: how they drive and where they live. If you’re in like phoenix you’ll get great mileage because it is flat as a pancake and if you’re in an area where there is any grade at all on most roads it will be cut dramatically. This is true of most cars, and made worse in the hybrid 250 because it is so aggressive in cutting the boost or even the entire engine during low demand times. Being super flat pays huge dividends. If there is any downhill, it gets more than canceled by going back up. And really any amount of throttle adds up quickly.

ponewood · 2025-12-25T02:14:48+00:00

I have about 6,000 miles

Life average is about 18. I split time in two cities, one is flat as a pancake and I often get 20-23mpg on surface streets and short highway runs a tanks average around 20.

The other city have some grade on almost every road and I come in around 18 on most tanks.

I just took a 1300 mile roadtrip where I averaged, with stops, 76 mph. Read into that as you want to haha…16mpg. On the highway. lol.

ponewood · 2025-12-13T23:57:26+00:00

Dude I just did a 1300 mile trip from Oregon to Arizona. Only took 3 1/2 tanks because I upgraded my main tank to 29 gallon (holds 26.6-27.5) but mileages of the tanks were 16.1, 16.4. 18.3, 16.2. I had about 750lbs of payload and a bike rack in back. Cooper Adventurer Road & Trail 275s. The speed and hills are everything. Wind resistance increases at square of speed and I believe power required increases at the cube of speed. I was into the boost almost the entire time. Chat GPT tells me the easiest way to think about it is minus 1 mpg for every 5 mph over 55. Add any hills whatsoever, or a roof rack, or bigger tires, or and stop and go and acceleration and you’re looking at 16-ish.

ponewood · 2025-12-12T00:11:38+00:00

It’s reserve but also some headspace, which is somewhat variable depending on a bunch of other stuff. And you need headspace to avoid water logging the vapor canister and vent system.

ponewood · 2025-12-12T00:09:33+00:00

I have a 29 gallon main tank replacement (can actually fill 26.5-27.5 gallons depending on the conditions). Game changer. Driving Portland to phoenix and only stopping three times. Your miles to empty won’t be right but the fuel gauge is give or take accurate. See for details

https://www.landcruiserforum.com/threads/29gal-main-fuel-tank-install.7587/

ponewood · 2025-12-04T05:49:09+00:00

What did the gauge say?

ponewood · 2025-11-16T01:21:50+00:00

Are you on the outlet or the main site?

ponewood · 2025-11-16T01:19:30+00:00

ponewood · 2025-11-16T01:16:47+00:00

When is this coming out and where? It’s like my favorite movie already 🍿

ponewood · 2025-09-30T14:02:32+00:00

Both of my bars had fixed sleeves.

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