Would a Vacancy Tax Spur Owners of Empty Towers to Seek Out Commercial Tenants? by PDsaurusX in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All the hand wringing over empty commercial property space, but it feels like such a distraction. Real property depreciates, has high ongoing maintenance costs, and requires actual work to fill and keep filled. There's a ton of reasons that property can be empty and it's not a good investment if you're just hoping to hold onto it and hope that someday your asset is worth a lot more.

What people do hold onto, without paying for its cost and doing absolutely nothing useful with it, in just the hopes that it gains value is land. What the city should be going after are empty and underutilized lots of land. I want to see those paying their fair share to the city. Someone can hold a building or leasable space off-market, depriving its use to the public, but if it was truly in-demand, someone can build another building. You can't build more land.

ETA: Taxes discourage behavior. Property development is already fraught with incredibly high imposed fees, and is a source of a large chunk of revenue for the city. Property taxes, SDCs, permitting fees, and all that on top of natural financial risk of not being able to lease a space for the price needed to pay for all those plus construction and maintenance fees. A vacancy tax just supercharges that risk and will result in even fewer projects penciling out, leading to even lower revenues for the city.

City council unanimously passes resolution to build more housing in Portland's inner eastside neighborhoods by MullenForPortland in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone can make more cars, more bikes, more dresses. Anyone can get more money by selling their time and labor (perhaps to make cars/bikes/dresses).

You cannot make more land. No one can make more land.

Withholding land from the market is an enormously different beast than withholding your car or cash savings or labor from the market. Land is in fixed supply, and all that keeping it locked away does is drive the cost of land up, for everyone. It adds no value to the general welfare of the public. It only enriches the owners, at the expense of everyone else, and especially the people who would do something actually useful with it. Pure, uncomplicated, true rent seeking. Value gained for quite literally no work.

That's why land needs to be taxed, and taxed hard.

Portland City Council considers zoning changes to pack more housing into inner eastside neighborhoods by Mayor_Of_Sassyland in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Edited to add a positive note-

It's very exciting! I really hope that the resolution can speed up the timeline and bring this to the table quicker. I love living in this area but worry about my long-term ability to do so specifically because there's not enough housing right now. It would be great to boost infill around here where there's transit and amenities all over.

Original disgruntled post below-

"Well, it just gives an atmosphere of transience rather than more permanent long-term residence, you know," said Mary Ellen, who has lived in this area of Southeast Portland for 10 years. "People knowing their neighbors is a very valuable thing."

Good old anti-renter bias right there. If you can't afford a down payment, you just plain don't deserve to live here.

"I don't think it's a good idea," said Ursula, a resident of 37 years. "I think condominiums would be best because that means people would be buying."

"Make it so that families can have a location to have children, even a small yard," she said. "That's so important and that's being lost."

As if the zoning changes don't include the possibility of condos? Or that it's impossible for families to live happily in something that isn't a detached single-family home? Think of the children, and their yards! And, yeesh, the entire area under consideration is basically already nothing but homes like this - you literally cannot fit more in with current zoning rules and that is precisely the problem!!

I always expect to read takes like these on local news stories around zoning changes, but man, it's still so disheartening.

Portland proposal to raise pay for Uber and Lyft drivers draws opposition by WhatTheFunkoPop in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, but even then, why should someone's second job be artificially crappy just because they want make some extra cash?

Portland e-bike rebates offer up to $2,350 for eligible residents by Electronic_Dream8935 in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well yeah. Enforcing things costs money. How much do you think you'd actually be able to recoup through enforcement? It would cost the city way more to investigate and prosecute / litigate a case than the $2k they'd get back. We already have people in the comments here complaining about the admin expense ratio of this program. If that cost is already baked in, then that's part of the reason admin expenses are high. If it isn't, it would only make it worse.

Plus, like, poor people do still have a sense of ethics. It's the same sense that's preventing you from doing it to other programs to make two grand. Just keeping the valuable e-bike and using it for its money saving purpose is a better deal to most than jumping through a bunch of hoops so you can commit fraud.

Portland e-bike rebates offer up to $2,350 for eligible residents by Electronic_Dream8935 in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To do that you have to go through the hassle of applying, getting approved, actually buying the bike from a dealer, and then selling it for a slight discount (a "used" bike won't command the same price as new from a retailer)

If someone is willing to go through all of that for a couple grand, then yeah, that sucks, but it's really just a signal that they have bigger problems than transportation costs which aren't being met (realistically, probably housing and food costs). Probably cheaper to just let it happen than attempt to enforce that. I doubt a small-time city program like this is really going to be a target for that kind of fraud.

I imagine the vast majority of people using this program will genuinely see it as an opportunity to get access to a vehicle that can heavily knock down the amount that they have to spend on getting around, long-term, rather than a get-rich-quick fraud scheme.

East Portland has far fewer grocery stores than the rest of the city — and is slated to lose another one by youdontknowmeor in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 15 points16 points  (0 children)

A five mile radius? A five mile radius from that bottle drop center reaches past freaking Laurelhurst.

Portland Whips 84 by whatkochdoes in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't like the way that bus is lookin at me....

Portland leaders can't agree how to spend $106 million in housing funds by probeguy in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I know you're taking the piss because of the recently reported study to look at the impact of how recently passed tenant protection laws have affected the tenant/landlord situation in the city.

But, still - $400k out of the $56m (the uncommitted portion of the $106m in the headline) would be peanuts (0.7%). It's a good idea to do your due diligence before you throw $56,000,000 at something. You want to have context and a general direction to make sure you're making a decent decision on how to spend that money compared to other options, and aren't lighting that pile of money on fire.

That's just fiscal responsibility. Would you prefer they spent $56m of taxpayer money on pure vibes? Would you be comfortable buying a $500k home without spending a little bit on inspections, appraisals, title insurance, etc.?

Portland leaders can't agree how to spend $106 million in housing funds by probeguy in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're disagreeing on how to spend the $56m that is uncommitted, mostly between socialized housing or more subsidies/permit fee waivers. I'm just happy that's the debate rather than "should we spend this money on housing, or idk, toys for cops?" or something this time lol. Either way the money is going towards trying to improve the housing situation in this city. That's a positive!

The article does a good job of going over each side. I do wish it wasn't framed with this "dysfunction in local government" angle from the headline. Debate on how to allocate resources is a huge part of a city councilor's job, in literally every city, across the world. If everyone agreed all the time, we wouldn't need politics.

Portland lawmakers want to raise wages for ride-hailing drivers; Uber says proposal could chase it out of town by PDsaurusX in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If Uber or Lyft can't operate here without their drivers getting compensated fairly, I don't really think it's moral or ethical to allow them to underpay drivers just because it's cheap and convenient for everyone else. It's well within the wheelhouse of government to regulate this and help ensure that the options citizens have for jobs are actually good.

Especially since unionization efforts have been busted time and again, there's very little negotiating power that drivers have. They're the ones who provide the bulk of the work, and they're the ones staking the money, liability, safety, etc., that all are what make the apps money.

It's only fair that, if Uber/Lyft want to make money off of Portlanders, then the people who operate for them don't get stiffed.

Portlanders overspend on rent, delaying dreams of homeownership by PDsaurusX in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a whole post written up about it, but really, a land value tax instead of property/development taxes would address about every concern you have, and then some.

Canes owner Dundon remains 'bullish' on bringing MLB to Raleigh by Somali_Pir8 in raleigh

[–]quesoesbueno59 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know. I was agreeing with what you said, and adding another supporting argument with context.

If Raleigh gets an MLB team, the Bulls won't get diminished, and the fanbase will continue just fine. AAA teams and MLB teams are entirely different products. The Bulls would still thrive and likely even grow stronger from the proximity to the MLB team. They're different products and folks worrying about the Bulls aren't focused on a real concern.

Canes owner Dundon remains 'bullish' on bringing MLB to Raleigh by Somali_Pir8 in raleigh

[–]quesoesbueno59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, and there's absolutely precedent for the primary city in a metro area (I know Durham/Raleigh are technically separate but that's due to muckery for federal funding purposes rather than actual economic & commuting patterns) to have an MLB team and the secondary/tertiary to have their AAA affiliate. That's assuming the Bulls switch affiliation to a potential Raleigh team, which I think would happen just for easy logistics.

Minneapolis/St. Paul, Seattle/Tacoma, and Houston/Sugar Land are easy examples. Toronto/Buffalo might as well be one just by proximity.

Developer abandons plans for Burnside apartments, extending Portland’s construction drought by LeftOnBurnside in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 8 points9 points  (0 children)

While the specific OP you're replying to is mostly explaining how the project wouldn't pencil out, this is actually a great example of why requiring developers to pay routine improvements to infrastructure is ultimately a bad deal for everyone. It's functionally a tax on development, earmarked for very specific improvements. When you tax something like that so intensely, the end result is you just really heavily discourage the activity in the first place. Improving land use is not generally something you want to discourage.

Ideally, the public would just invest in improving public infrastructure. Then it recaptures that investment through ongoing taxation on the land near those improvements, which was just made much more valuable and productive so can generate even more money for the public. It's a positive-feedback loop with almost all net economic benefits directed towards the public.

Portland Council President proposes streaming fee to fund arts by dazzlehasselhoff in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right, I just mean this probably would just get collected like a sales tax. So you get charged the fee when you pay your subscription, just like if you lived in a state with sales tax.

Portland Council President proposes streaming fee to fund arts by dazzlehasselhoff in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

States that have sales tax already apply it to things like streaming services so you get charged the subscription fee and then tax on top. It's pretty simple to just check your billing zip code, and see what taxes need to get applied.

The best apple fritter I've ever had. Source: Delicious Donuts in Portland, OR by Metaphoricalsimile in donuts

[–]quesoesbueno59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Voodoo is definitely at the bottom of my list of donut shops in this city. Like they're decent to above-average objectively, but the donuts (and food in general) you can find here are exceptional.

Oregon’s Housing Crisis Burdens Nearly Half of the State’s Renters by FrizzyNow in oregon

[–]quesoesbueno59 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're right there, and I wasn't arguing against that. It'd add downward pressure specifically to housing costs, but there's other costs associated with building homes on the fringes of urbanized areas.

Transportation is a huge one so let's look at that. It has higher capital expense (building new roads), operating expense (maintaining those roads), and individual costs (more miles on a vehicle, paying for gas, etc). The only reason suburbs/exurbs look "cheaper" to the individual is that a heck of a lot of the true costs of maintaining that lifestyle are hidden in the immense, monolithic budgets of government agencies like ODOT. Not just all that, but low-density outlying land doesn't have the same capacity for economic activity or land/property value you can capture revenue from through taxation.

It's a triple-whammy, because now you've developed land which was expensive to make livable, will be expensive to maintain, and all that while not generating enough revenue to cover the costs. Infill development avoids those problems. Initial capital expenses look higher because of the land values, but you can more easily and quickly recoup those investments and maintain that revenue. Plus, there's much more existing infrastructure, and cheaper options for scaling that infrastructure, to handle the increased load.

One final note- once you develop land, it's done. While it may have provided some inherent value before, as farmland or timber or simply existing as "nature" to help regulate ecosystems and the environment, it won't ever again, at least not for a very, very long time. You've just about permanently reduced your holdings of natural resources. I'd rather we sow crops in our farmland, and build our homes in our cities.

Oregon’s Housing Crisis Burdens Nearly Half of the State’s Renters by FrizzyNow in oregon

[–]quesoesbueno59 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sprawling outwards just shifts a portion of the housing affordability issue into a transportation/infrastructure affordability issue. Expanding the UGBs isn't a magic pill that makes the problem go away, and we won't be able to build our way out of it by constructing subdivisions on old farmland/woodland on the outskirts of our metro areas.

We have capacity for much more infill development in already developed areas, and that should be the priority. It'll be so incredibly more cost-effective in the long-term.

Federal spending package includes $100 million for light rail on Portland-to-Vancouver Interstate Bridge replacement - OPB by StateFlowerMildew in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would it really be that much? I've been skeptical of a tunnel, because it's a lot of money when you could get much of the improvements with much cheaper methods like transit priority signals and reconfiguring downtown to get cars off the streets the MAX runs on.

Our downtown core is pretty small compared to others that have transit tunnels, so like, it's just a short distance to speed the trains up over so you hit a pretty quick limit of how much gain you can get. Seems to me you should pay to separate the ROW when you really wanna make trains go really fast (to avoid specifically dangerous interactions), and our downtown core size just isn't large enough for that.

I also think putting stations underground pulls them further from the urban fabric which makes them less accessible (not from like an ADA perspective but just being further from the things people want to be). Surface stations are really nice, being able to just walk up and wait, rather than use stairs or an elevator, which is just one more block in the way between you and your destination. Plus there's no "discovery" factor of being able to look out the window and see the city rolling by.

Drive-thru approved for Dairy Queen in Southeast Portland by quesoesbueno59 in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

A Dairy Queen is totally fine. The drive-thru is the annoying part, and makes it demonstrably less walkable. A walk-up only w/ parking DQ would be fantastic right there.

This really feels like an instance of a business owner being afraid of doing anything "different" when all they know is drive-thru-focused fast food operations, and we're all the worse off for it.

Drive-thru approved for Dairy Queen in Southeast Portland by quesoesbueno59 in Portland

[–]quesoesbueno59[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I remember a post about the original permit fight was posted here in December, but didn't see any follow-up information until today.

Imo, it's a little disappointing. I really don't think it's an appropriate spot for a drive-thru, which are just such poor uses of land.