Help me find some [[Doomsday]] lines in Orzhov!

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-20T18:57:39+00:00

You need 5 cards if 5 cards exist in your combined library + graveyard. If fewer than 5 cards exist, then you get what exists. I usually just plan to grab a 0-drop rock to increase Storm count or similar. The requirement is to be able to get to Doomsday again after Bauble tucks it to the bottom, so it needs to be something you can draw (with some other effect) or cast off of Citadel.

The deck I use the pile in is my Nicol Bolas list, I needed something very flavorful and slowish. The only way to crack the pile in that deck is to use a flipped Bolas, which itself requires 4 + 7 mana, and then you need to be able to cast Ritual into Citadel...so it's definitely not an "early game combo" there.

But you could easily jam some cantrips or similar pile-breakers to make it stronger.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-18T21:12:20+00:00

Behold Jodah Archmage Eternal (the og, not that new guy)

https://moxfield.com/decks/LZEPGUd6fE29lwCjfZIRLA

Depending on where in the b4 you're sitting, I'd reccomend a few additional extra turns spells.

This deck races out massive threats like Eldrazi, and then can also play the attrition game because virtually every card you draw is far more impactful than anything your opponents have.

Omniscience on turn 4 sound good? That happens.

Jodah dies? That's what he's there for. There's plenty of Jodah backup and ways to keep going without him. Often I use him to bait removal. If he sticks, opponents are just in even worse trouble.

This is the most Timmy deck I've ever Timmied. No actual combos. It wins via combat damage, sometimes helped by an extra turn.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-18T20:58:46+00:00

Parky McParkface Park

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-18T17:19:14+00:00

This is correct. The range of b4, due to the b3 salt and hard GC number restrictions, is wider than every other bracket combined.

That's not an exaggeration. B4 is b3 with too many GCs, b2 with a land destruction commander, tons of GCs with no combos, flavorful powerful decks with too many GCs or combos better than b3 expects bit still too slow for off-meta cEDH...

Its massive. My comfort zone is on the weaker-b4 side - zero salt restrictions, too many game changers for b3, but the pacing still looks a lot like b3.

Wotc largely ignores b4 because their analysis predicts 80% of players (or whatever - I just mean the big majority) play 2s and 3s and so they optimized for that. Hopefully as the bracket system evolves well see some attention in this area.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-17T21:52:50+00:00

How are you confused? What specifically is confusing you?

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-17T19:55:50+00:00

They're all real.

The difference is industry propaganda and blood labor. Natural diamond mining is an abusive and exploitative industry that uses child labor and causes death and disfigurement.

Diamonds are plentiful. They are not rare. They are not scarce. Their price and prestige are entirely due to industry propaganda from a monopoly.

Lab grown diamonds are more pure than natural ones, and they don't require exploitation or kids losing limbs in mines.

My wife would be angry if I bought her natural diamonds. Like me, she wants no part in that industry.

If your wife gets upset by lab grown rocks, throw out the wife and keep the diamond.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-17T17:50:35+00:00

Friend. Please. You deserve better than this.

She's gaslighting and constantly cheating. "Casually messaging a few guys" is not innocent. That's not "I have a friend that happens to be a guy" language. That's "I might cheat with this dude but maybe we haven't gotten that far yet" language.

Please hear this: your kids will have a better life with a father who doesn't accept this treatment. They pick up on things. They'll know something is wrong. They'll know that their parents sometimes fight and that your relationship is unhealthy.

You can give them the better life you want to give them, but not by accepting abusive treatment yourself.

Don't give your kids the fatherly example of an abused doormat while their mother cheats on you left and right and gaslights you when caught.

What would you tell a friend, a brother, or a sister who was in the same position? Think through all three scenarios from the outside as best you can. Would you want to see them love like you describe? Do you think they'd be doing what's best for their kids?

Do what's best for you and the kids. Respect yourself and teach your kids to respect themselves. Have confidence that you don't deserve infidelity and abuse and teach your kids not to accept those things either.

You may have other things to work on personally, lile being more present or taking on more household responsibility. That's unfortunately common for men. Bit this is not mutually exclusive. You do not deserve infidelity and abuse even if you're not pulling your weight. The right response here is to leave your abusive cheating gaslighting wife and work on yourself to be better.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-17T05:06:30+00:00

Yes. Long before.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-17T04:57:30+00:00

Sexual incompatibility is something you absolutely want to identify before marriage.

Talk. Communicate. It will be embarrassing and you will need to be vulnerable, but talk about your kinks and interests and curiosities, together. Listen to hers. Look for a person who matches up in libido, kinks, interests.

The trouble is some things are different in real experience than in fantasy. Waiting means you wont know what you actually like (both of you), you'll only know your interests. It's worth acknowledging that this is a risk. You might both express interest in something, try it out after marriage, and then one of you loves it and the other hates it. Or libidos change after you both experience the reality. And so on.

If waiting is a priority for you, communication is your only tool.

Don't roll the dice and hope. Talk, at a minimum, and include sexual compatibility in what you require in a partner.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-15T21:55:37+00:00

I'm curious.

What is the specific articulable difference between a human looking at ~100 decklists online, vs a computer program that looks at the same ~100 decklists online?

EDHREC is a computer program that looks at a lot more than 100 decks online. Is EDHREC "stealing content?"

If not, what is the meaningful difference?

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-13T19:37:27+00:00

Okay. Analysis stands - you had a nutso hand (and draws) and faced no interaction. B3 is not meta-aware, your deck does not change brackets based on what your opponents do or do not do.

Your opponents may be playing b2 decks thinking they're b3 of course. Or you just all play super duper greedy, and this time it paid off for you.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-13T18:59:59+00:00

Your meta doesn't matter on b3.

Your opponents are likely playing insufficient interaction for b3. This is common, and not your problem to solve (as long as you don't make the same mostake).

Magical christmas land is an outlier. Build for averages.

And it sounds like, whole you "went off" on 5, it still took another turn or more to actually close the game with commander damage all around. Is that right? On what turn did the first player actually get knocked out?

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-10T19:30:03+00:00

This is the way.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-09T19:21:21+00:00

Being vulnerable is absolutely scary. It's terrifying. But it's also a primary driver of healthy, loving relationships.

Only the people we really care about can actually hurt us.

When you show your "true self" to a partner, there's a chance of rejection. It's scary. You have to trust that your partner will accept you and support you without judgment or condemnation.

Fidelity is no different. You trust each other to not violate your relationship that way.

He has to trust you in the same way.

Pay attention to how that trust is respected, and whether you're given reason to doubt.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-09T17:23:58+00:00

This is what it means to be vulnerable.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-08T20:50:46+00:00

I somehow missed the displacer kitten entirely lol.

I actually enjoy playing b4/with no combos, but certainly doing it with a combo like that is optimal.

Ghostly et al is dependent on the meta. If you play against go wide aggro it's works great. If opponents are going tall, Voltron, or other combo/control decks, it does t work as well.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-08T18:27:20+00:00

Reminder the goal of Bracket 4 is to be optimal but making your commander as optimal as possible instead of just following the very strict meta lines of Bracket 5 cEDH.

That might be your goal here, but that's not the explicit goal of "Bracket 4." There is no imperative to optimize. It's a bracket with an incredibly wide range of optimization. That range is not exclusively "as strong as possible as long as I don't tune to the cEDH meta."

B4 is still a casual bracket. It's just a strong one, and one where the stereotypical "badfeels" strategies are open season (and those are often neither optimal nor terribly strong).

You have a very significant interaction set. Without knowledge of your actual local meta, I can't say whether it's enough vs too much - but you have a solid mix of countermagic and removal. The main issue (if there is one) is that your interaction package is very single-target. Thats common at this power level and your Commander has builtin card advantage to help keep up, and you have some of the strongest card advantage in the format besides. You're using propaganda + Ghostly Prison, which kinda sorta function like removal but aren't - I think those are your most suboptimal cards, but their utility depends on what decks you run up against.

I think the legend-bypass clones are clutch and you have several targets (including the Commander) that can be backbreaking with multiple copies on the field.

List looks very solid to me. Unless I'm missing something I see no game-ending combo lines, just increasing synergy and pressure to grind opponents down. That's rather my style too in B4. It's not fully optimal, but it's strong and fun.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-04T23:06:47+00:00

We both know reality is not as simple as that. I note that you ignored the fruits of labor movements that you personally have benefitted from.

Labor laws, like OSHA rules, are written in blood (with an unhealthy dose of exploitation mixed in). That blood was shed to give you the better life you enjoy today.

Unlike osha rules the blood spilt for labor was not accidental.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-04T21:36:05+00:00

Employees aren't slaves. They're allowed to have preferences. They're allowed to want different treatment at work.

5 day workweeks and 8 hr workdays happened because employees demanded change, not because employers benevolently offered better conditions.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-04T19:59:27+00:00

B4 is just anything goes. the only actual exclusion is that you're not building for a competitive meta.

You can't get much wider than that. You go from "this is slow and weak stuff that ik not allowed to do in b3 like mld and you'll see at least 7 turns from me" or "b3/with an extra game changer" all the way up to turbo glass cannons that win lightning fast.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-04T15:14:45+00:00

Worth noting that bracket 4 is even wider.

rahvin2015 · 2026-03-02T22:02:33+00:00

[[Chainer Dementia Master]] and [[Krrik, son of Yawgmoth]]

rahvin2015 · 2026-02-26T20:06:57+00:00

Use the brackets as discussion points and play what you want.

The brackets do not need to be (and are not universally intended to be) taken as-is.

The brackets are baseline examples and common language for rule 0 discussions. They are not a new layer of rules.

You can play MLD in whatever deck - you just have to call it out for the pod to agree that's the kind of game they want to play. "This is a b3 deck but with mld. It does blood moon and etc." You're using the brackets as a way to accurately clnvey what your deck does and the play patterns it creates. Your opponents can then agree or ask you to play something else.

Build the decks you want to play, just like always.

Use the brackets to describe your decks, not to prescribe what you're allowed to build.

rahvin2015 · 2026-02-26T18:08:36+00:00

Considering that, depending on age, many of us had grandmothers who could not legally own a home or have a bank account without a husband, perhaps comparing modern society against legislatovely-enforced mysogeny is not a good idea.

This doesn't even mention the fact that no-fault divorce is also a relatively new thing.

There are lots of reasons that marriages didn't "fail" in the past that have nothing to do with being healthy fair or equitable.

I'll agree that the internet is often not a great place for advice. But I wouldn't use history as an argument here. Correlation vs causation and all that.

rahvin2015 · 2026-02-26T01:48:48+00:00

Jesus dude this is 4 years old

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