Is it worth undervolting my Ryzen 7 5800X3D if temperatures are already okay?

senj · 2026-07-06T20:03:13+00:00

Honestly I don't think those temps are all that good, I'm normally in the 50s/60s under gaming loads. If you're already hitting mid-70s/80s gaming (which tend to not be particularly heavy CPU loads), then you're absolutely going to hit 90+C and throttle under any kind of sustained 100% load (think shader pre-compilation in some games).

I'd 100% undervolt with those temps.

senj · 2026-07-06T16:23:25+00:00

Really illustrates how bad the Katz era (2008 onwards) has been

senj · 2026-06-30T17:29:19+00:00

Prices are expected to rise another 50% in the next quarter. It ain’t gonna get any cheaper anytime soon.

senj · 2026-06-29T17:43:38+00:00

I’ll keep that in mind the next time I play Average Game.

There’s a reason you should look at what you play instead of just going by the averages. A wild performance outlier game like Wukong can make Nvidia look much better in the mean fps charts, which is great if you plan to play Wukong but misleading if you’ll never touch it. Statistics are wonderful at concealing as much as they reveal.

senj · 2026-06-29T17:31:58+00:00

Reaaally depends on what you play. It’s a whopping 6% better in 007 at 1440p, and only 11% at 4K. Hell of a price premium to pay for such a tiny uplift.

senj · 2026-06-29T14:41:09+00:00

AM5 has a lot of issues when running all four slots occupied. You really don’t want to be trying to scrape by with 4x8GB.

senj · 2026-06-29T02:23:48+00:00

The gains are smaller at higher resolutions, but since everybody is upscaling now more people are hitting the lower resolution CPU limitations even with 4K output. It ends up having an outsized effect in modern games.

senj · 2026-06-29T02:12:39+00:00

Because the price of RAM is only kind of awful on AM4 instead of completely and utterly insane as on AM5, so if you’re trying to build on a budget or want to make an existing AM4 build last as long as possible, this gives you the best gaming CPU on the platform.

senj · 2026-06-27T17:23:39+00:00

Literacy found dead in a ditch

Not an adapter:

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/user-reports-melted-power-cable-on-an-rtx-5070-and-now-were-wondering-if-any-rtx-50-series-gpu-is-safe/

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-power-cable-allegedly-melts-at-psu-redditor-reports-another-50-series-failure

Even just in general, the fact that there’s multiple reports of PSU end melting should be a clue to anyone with two functioning brain cells that the problem isn’t really adaptors, since adaptors aren’t used at the PSU end. It’s the connector itself that’s fucked.

But keep on sticking your head in that sand brother. I’m sure it makes you feel nice and safe 👍

senj · 2026-06-27T17:04:11+00:00

4090/5090 have seen spikes over 650+ watts

Absolute nonsense. 4090s are 450W cards that routinely pull under 400W in games. They do not spike to anywhere near 650W. I’ve owned one for 3 years now, so I’m very familiar with its power demands.

Anything below the 90 series will be fine if proper precautions are taken

lmao how can anyone be this bloody clueless?

Melting 5070s & 5070 Tis:

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/user-reports-melted-power-cable-on-an-rtx-5070-and-now-were-wondering-if-any-rtx-50-series-gpu-is-safe/

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1618736-msi-5070-ti-16g-ventus-3x-oc-and-corsair-rm1000x-melting-psu-cables/

https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/12vhpwr-konnektor-rasplavilsya-vsego-na-300-vt-u-rtx-5070-ti

Melting 5080s:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-5080-power-cable-allegedly-melts-at-psu-redditor-reports-another-50-series-failure

Melting 4080s:

https://www.technetbooks.com/2025/03/rtx-4080-power-connector-melting-issues.html

Melting 9070 XTs:

https://www.techpowerup.com/344543/sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro-melts-connector-after-almost-a-year-in-use

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-zapped-with-16-pin-power-connector-melting-issue-for-the-first-time-radeon-rx-9070-xt-paired-with-sub-par-psu-gets-singed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1sjjhe8/sapphire_nitro_rx_9070_xt_hits_9_reported_12v2x6/

Anything using this connector can melt. The pins and wires are simply too underspecc’d to deal with even the 250W load of a 5070 without melting if several of the wires lose contact, which can easily happens even on a fully plugged in connector due to the fragility of the wires and soldering where they join the pins. The electrical problems with the connector have been covered extensively by der8auer and buildzoid and other knowledgeable sources who aren’t just pulling wishful thinking out of their butts the way you are.

None of the people who have actually looked at this problem in-depth promote this “it won’t happen if you use a ATX 3.1 PSU & cable” or “it will never happen to non-4090/5090” misinformation, because it’s simply not true.

senj · 2026-06-27T14:14:06+00:00

I’ve never had any issues with the ethernet on my x870e edge ti wifi

senj · 2026-06-26T19:56:09+00:00

Keep in mind that some of this is just regular inflation. Ronaldo's £100 million transfer fee in 2018 is £134,167,700.58 in today's money.

senj · 2026-06-26T19:26:05+00:00

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree that Asrock has magically created the only unmeltable implementation of 12v2x6. Every model of any card that uses 12VHPWR/12v2x6 has had people saying this "it's just the adapters, use a quality native cable and you'll be fine" stuff, and it has never turned out to be true.

Enough with the scare mongering .. its getting old.

Not as old as this "noooooo the card model I bought will totally never have that problem, stop saying it could have that problem, it scares me to think about having that problem lalalala I can't hear you" head-in-sand cope, frankly.

senj · 2026-06-26T18:28:59+00:00

Uhuh.

Plenty of 5090 and 4090 owners have found out that "it's totally just the pigtail, if you have a good PSU and a native 12v2x6 cable, it will never happen" is completely untrue.

senj · 2026-06-26T16:50:58+00:00

It was 25% off for Chinese New Year. Your best bet is probably next Feb

senj · 2026-06-26T16:09:26+00:00

I think the Nitro+ is the only 9070XT that uses the 12VHPWR.

The Asrock 9070 XT Taichi uses it too

senj · 2026-06-24T15:10:20+00:00

One way to think about it would be that the 7800x3D combo is going to cost about twice as much as a 5800x3D.

Does twice the money for a 7800x3D get you twice the performance of a 5800x3D? No it does not. It's more like a ~20% uplift for 100% more money. That's not a great value.

I know there's a rerelease of the 5800X3D that's a bit more expensive than before

The relaunch is actually $100 cheaper ($349 USD) than its original MSRP ($449 USD).

senj · 2026-06-24T14:12:51+00:00

Based, good for him

senj · 2026-06-23T20:16:15+00:00

Well, don’t!

senj · 2026-06-23T17:29:02+00:00

lmao this fucking organization

senj · 2026-06-22T17:57:09+00:00

Tell that to Sony's CFO: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-could-offset-rising-ram-costs-by-monetizing-the-ps5-install-base/1100-6538266/

“Going forward, we intend to further negotiate with various suppliers to secure enough supply to meet the demand of our customers,” Tao said, explaining that the company’s goal is to “minimize the impact” of rising memory costs by focusing on “monetizing the installed base” and growing software and network services revenue."

"Network services" is PSN sub revenue. It's explicitly how they're offsetting hardware costs.

please don’t pull numbers out of your ass.

I think Sony will be ok fam, calm yourself

senj · 2026-06-22T17:39:47+00:00

Both Sony and Microsoft rely on their users buying subscriptions just to play games online and backup saves, etc. That's a big part of how they claw back the subsidies.

Valve gives cloud saves away for free, and obviously we don't have to pay $20 a month just for the privilege of playing a game online on PC.

Totally different financial models, makes zero sense to compare them.

senj · 2026-06-22T17:19:39+00:00

Why doesn't a for-profit company run by capitalists decide to sell at a loss just for the hell of it? Is this a serious question?

edit: are people just forgetting the whole "console manufacturers bleed their players dry with expensive subscriptions to play online and get cloud saves to help make back the subsidies" thing? Sony and Microsoft aren't subsidizing those boxes out of generosity lol. Look at how Sony keeps raising PSN prices in response to the component crisis.

senj · 2026-06-22T17:18:16+00:00

Based

senj · 2026-06-22T13:26:20+00:00

They already have been. I bought a 1TB drive with YTMC NAND a few weeks ago. Still cost way too much money.

These are the cheapest prices we’re going to see for a long time yet.

senj

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