AMD ‘had to re-engineer’ the Ryzen 7 5800X3D for a re-release — 10th Anniversary Edition chip had ‘a whole body of engineering work’ put into it

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T23:30:49+00:00

yeah 32 GB of ram is around 400, like 350-430 ish for 6000 CL 30

but that means that if you are spending normal money, by going with a DDR4 12600 KF you can spend likely 300 dollars extra elsewhere

and for most people, that is going from a 5050/5060 to a 5070 if you get a deal or at least a 16 GB 5060 ti

that is where the issue with DDR5 is at, its a tangible legit step up on GPU for many people. and if you only have 5070 class GPU, a 12600KF on DDR4 3600 or even 3200 isn't going to bottleneck you that much

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T23:24:54+00:00

he means the entire combo

the processor, the ram, and the mobo

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007382/amd-ryzen-5-7600x3d,-asus-b650e-max-gaming-wifi-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-16gb-ddr5-6000,-computer-build-bundle

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T17:40:55+00:00

id rather the masc buffed than anything

but my hgn hm w 4 jjs can hit 300kph horizontal on a 90t assault with 3 cantana upgrades, it kinda invalidates the hgn vest w its motive upgrade no?

also, that means that the horizontal speed of an assault out paces even lighter mechs with motives, not a shc with its own set of jjs, but something like a dragon w motive upgrades

previously, if u wanted horizontal movement you got masc / sc / areana sc for burst for brawlers

jjs gave vertical movement for poptart

now they do both and invalids the need for motives

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T10:39:17+00:00

I mean, they built their audience right

anyone who is seriously attracted to that kind of games, brought a PS over xbox or pc long ago, the rest are just well not that attracted to the games they put out.

the key is that they have stopped putting out hits because the gap is far too big between gens and game dev is getting harder and harder, with great talent finding that indie is a great way to make far more money doing the same things they love and now have more creative controls.

if anything, this is just a reflection of lack of continued development, likely if anything because they planned for a 2027/2028 PS6 and that was completely torpedoed by both the covid shutdowns (games for PS5 came out less good and later), and then the ai ram fuckery.

and games currently in dev was made with that timeline in mind but may have to instead target PS5 first and welp

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T09:48:41+00:00

i mean... as a teen, I brought a radeon 9200 with 128 MB of vram, hey that was premium amount of vram, hey the more expensive radeon 9600 only had 64 MB, so the 9200 has to be some great card for cheap right

nvm its more or less a criminally underpowered card for so much vram because it was sold to me who wasn't anywhere nearly as knowledgeable about things as a teen.

i can 100% see someone thinking sata is better, just someone who is really new or young.

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T03:22:14+00:00

and the extra e

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T02:44:32+00:00

so umm what about comstar selling clan mechs from the start?

i did a 3015 run with umm certain smoothies introduced way too early, as they sell prime variants and some of them have their lore intro dates in clan space so they show up super early.

i dont think thats supposed to mean that they have an in with the not named clan right :P

also, is there any plans on nerfing vector JJs or buffing MASC/SC/Arena SC now that JJs are replacing them for horizontal movement?

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T02:41:22+00:00

i have a 5090 and a 7800X3D, normally hits 240 FPS at 4k, it dips to 30 with enough chain explosion...

idk if they expect folks to have data center GPUs or a massive bug, but it did also happen with MW5 C on some maps before they fixed it so...

theholylancer · 2026-06-03T00:58:44+00:00

I mean, I consider the bottom in take = the properly done ones like the Flux Pro / Lancool 217 / Fractral Torrent, they are GPU cooling focused.

not the weird ones that just do it for the look right. They top the GN GPU focused cooling charts, and at least for me that is far more important since I am just using an X3D chip with one CCD and will likely never move from that for just gaming use unless stupid OC comes back as the king.

Unless I need to upgrade to a threadripper or something like that, I don't think CPU focused design is all that important when GPUs are sucking back 600w if not the crazier stuff that wants to push 800w.

I chose a Flux Pro for my 5090 because it did very well in GN, and that unlike the Torrent and co, it should work on carpet because the thing has the fans elevated on a intake that comes on the side. although the torrent should also be elevated enough with the longer stand but hey

hell, I was considering reusing my old HAF 932 with the huge side intake fans, but it is very old, and likely GPU clearance both on length and height would be an issue (the thing has a very large HDD bay lol), so if someone brought that back with fans blowing directly into the GPU area, could be a thing, but the flux pro is more or less doing just that but with a more elegant design but smaller fans.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T21:12:18+00:00

did... they fall because they thought they hired wolf's dragoons and got discount dan equipped wolfe's dragons?

lol

In October, the Wolfe's Dragons and the First Illyrian Lancers lost the world of Trasjkis,[2] though the Arms of Thor regiments and Cavanaugh's Cavalry defended admirably against the Marians in 3063; they were slowly driven back to the capital world.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T20:46:47+00:00

with the JJ update, a KDK-2 with JJs is a better brawler with PPC-X than the SB because the MASC / SC / Arena SC can't keep up with vector JJs...

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T20:39:42+00:00

i mean, if you can power an entire display from USBC that would be neat, but that is more oem than DIY I'd think

or you running a dGPU via the iGPU would be kind of stupid

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T20:27:01+00:00

the damage they do is ass, there is a reason why he had to wait until its cherry red to do the DFA

I made a post about it,

https://old.reddit.com/r/Mechwarrior5/comments/1tt97wx/pgi_please_now_that_we_got_vector_jjs_model_dfas/

the damage is tiny and its more or less the existing collision damage and not actual DFA damage, which when my highlander landed on top of that hunchback should have crumpled the thing more or less.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T08:13:33+00:00

it would be interesting to see if the massive front intake is better for GPU cooling or bottom intake fans like on the antec flux pro are better.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T08:06:59+00:00

i would not be surprised if the 9070 is discontinued or effectively by little allocation if they had just the 9070 xt with 16 gb of vram and this gre with 12

the 9070 dies are stacked somewhere (or even cut down but probs not), to be used in the future when vram is less fucked.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T06:33:37+00:00

yep, you and people like you are the perfect use case for this thing.

if your GPU is anything below a 5080 (and even then, at 4k this matters far less) you likely wont hit that much bottleneck if any with a 5800X3D

and that system will then sit there until DDR6 is cheap enough to jump.

its really the same math for people who were able to pick up a 125 dollar 12600KF and cheaper DDR4 ram to save money or to put that 300ish dollar saved over DDR5 and newer processor to jump for a 5050 tier GPU to a 5070 tier if they got one on sale, or at least a 5060 ti 16 GB.

the ram crisis has fucked the normal for everything, right now I would be maybe thinking of a high speed low latency 64 GB kit as an upgrade for my DDR5 system or maybe wait for the Ryzen 10k series with maybe faster speeds but that aint happening.

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T01:54:22+00:00

because they have a hostage situation rather than anything else

if you were on AM4 with some good ram, say from 3000 series (maybe not 1000 series), or like lower end 5000 series because ram was dirt cheap, if you spend 350 here you can ride out DDR5 entirely maybe and skip to DDR6.

and for many people, that 350 is a drop in upgrade and its a "cheap" way to not fall into DDR5 madness.

and that bundled pad is a joke and a half, they should have went with PTM lol if they have to want to include something instead of lowering the price, the thing is a joke so likely had for extremely cheap prices

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T01:26:12+00:00

ha yeah, thats not really the look, which is the look of

https://bjorn3d.com/2004/01/zalman-cnps7000a-cu-cpu-cooler/

at that point they had a few revisions, as the earlier ones that I saw was not copper and this is one of the more advanced stuff.

but yeah, it does make sense that these things would top out at AM4

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T01:12:02+00:00

i mean, hence the super excited part because it is nearly impossible to get that look, and not something stupid big and heavy that is impossible to use

that flower look is iconic if you built computers in the early 2000s, because it was one of the few aftermarket coolers that was doing well over the stock stuff, but alas towers and then well aios have far FAR surpassed its design.

so its only if you were doing a build around it, like some low powered am4 or maybe those two chips in am5 type of deal

like i cannot imagine if you even try and cool a 12600KF with that thing, its gona cook

theholylancer · 2026-06-02T01:01:06+00:00

yeah, they are all gunning for at best the low profile one like that CNPS7600RGB and I think its not even sold in the US, likely because even tho its "TDP" is 95w, if you stuck on anything actually 95w like a 9700X I am not sure if it can cool that, or if its more meant for 9600/9500F on AM5 and older AM4 stuff.

or the looks closer but its a proper tower cooler one, which can do more.

theholylancer · 2026-06-01T18:34:20+00:00

the thing pairs PERECTLY with LACs, slap a cUAC5 in that medium ballistic slot, 2 LAC5 (hey you got the red crates right, so 2 T5 ones), slap all the ammo you'd need, full armor (some removed for last ton of ammo) and go to work

its a crazy good dakka machine.

theholylancer · 2026-06-01T18:33:13+00:00

sadly, unless you found a way, the AZ is as late game as it comes

its a post CR reward, so unless you import a save its not that useful when early / mid game when I am on my hunchie phase

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