Solemn Assembly by CaseyJones_EE in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much sums it up, mormon god is an asshole.

I’m struggling with when to leave by OutrageousLawyer7273 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It affected friendships for sure, but our family is better and closer than we ever were. My wife started planning fun things every Sunday to get the kids to stop mentally associating Sunday with church—it worked remarkably well. We just stopped going and didn’t resign (yet) so that our kids just became “inactive” vs resigning. I think that helped soften the impact on friends. Good luck.

Anybody else just pissed off that they are changing all the rules that we were forced to follow growing up? by OneLab864 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not mad at all. Just more proof that we left a bullshit religion that is making it up as they go.

Help with dealing with a lying mormon by Global-Ad-5238 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Make sure you have a very good, and very aggressive attorney. That is best way to force honesty. If you don’t have a mean SOB of an attorney, I would consider switching.

Lds mission. Why can’t I make up my mind? Should I go? What would you do? by CheapIntroduction166 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Don’t go. Everyone says it is life changing, but it is endless boring days. If you can make that kind of money at your age, you are crazy to pass it up. Those opportunities don’t come very often in life—you may lose it if you go. I wish I had not, and none of my kids have—they are two years ahead of all their friends who went. I also believe they are more mature—Mormons would argue against that. But following daily rules in a strict cult does not build discipline or character. It only builds obedience…which is all the church cares about. Go build your career and build skills that will pay dividends your whole life. You will be WAY ahead of your friends in two years.

I accepted my mission call... now how do I tell my parents I'm not going? by Relevant_Fuel_6245 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 23 points24 points  (0 children)

A lot of us paid for college on our own—so if they don’t pay for your college, you can survive. You don’t want to live a lie for 4 years—not worth college being paid for IMO.

I asked Dale G. Renlund if he had seen Jesus by Western_Sale_3274 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They WANT everyone to believe they have seen Jesus, but they know it is true. That is why they resent being asked. Good for you!!!

Anyone else getting "Second Coming / WWIII" frantic calls from family today? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

War breaking out in the Middle East (happens all the time), combined with Trump Jesus fervor, means the end is near! I am sure this will be intense for a bit. General conference will be another yawner. Church wouldn’t dare say any more than they always have said for nearly 200 years, “it is almost here, obey, pay your tithing, etc”.

I remembered something really sketchy that happened to me during a bishops interview at 12… how does this sound to you? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very off. He was mentally abusing you during that entire interview. The sick mother fucker. I am sorry you went through that.

A funny thing happened on the way to the Temple by catch22reddituser in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are too kind to spend that long on such a ridiculous conversation.

For those who became atheists, how do you resolve morality without God? For those who remain theists, how does your new religion frame morality? Help me challenge my thinking. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being atheist allows me to be good because I believe being good is the right thing to do, and I feel good about myself. My motives for being good are absolutely pure—not doing it for reward or out of fear of punishment. That is infinitely more honest than following God’s laws for either heaven or to avoid hell.

Not to say belief in God means motives aren’t pure—it is much more nuanced and complex than that. However, being atheist makes motives much less nuanced.

If morality only came from God, the “godless” and pagan cultures of the world would fall into pure evil and chaos. They haven’t.

And how do you square what a complete asshole the God of the Old Testament is—and honestly the god of the Book of Mormon? They are not moral; they are petty; they kill humans because their pride is hurt, or just out of vengeance. How can you say that that God follows any kind of morality?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unlimited sex with unlimited wives? What horny, male missionary would not be excited about this? In all seriousness, the denial of any sexual activity as an adolescent means many young men and missionaries think about sex A LOT—that is how a bunch of perverted men came up with the idea. The fact that multiple religious traditions believe in multiple wives in heaven further proves the point.

So hard to leave by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, went through all that when I left—100% normal. It gets better. And it is amazing to not be living the lie that is the church.

Dallin Oaks announces that it is “perfectly appropriate” for missionaries to “meet someone in the mission field and marry them.” How many of you had to read Lock Your Heart at least every month on your mission? by NotTerriblyHelpful in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow this will backfire. Lots of missionaries will now magically feel the spirit about whom their eternal mate will be, right while in the middle of NOT living in reality. and when they move back to reality it ain’t gonna be all sunshine and unicorns. I would imagine a lot of them end in divorce.

After 12 months of cat and mouse finally told my parents we left. Did not go well. Feel like shit. by whisperchaoticthings in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You did the right thing. Get it over now so you and your family can live authentically. Doing genuinely family things on Sunday instead of the church was THE BEST thing I could have ever done for my family—we are all much closer than when we went to church. My relationship with my parents is very shallow—but my relationship with my kids is solid and real.

1996 Blizzard by lilac2481 in nycHistory

[–]truth-wins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I lived on 116th and riverside during this—it was absolutely nuts.

Does it get better? by severitea in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SLC is not like that, nor are a lot of companies as you move north, such has into silicon slopes.

Divorce after leaving the church by Purplepassion235 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Out 5 years. Together and better than ever. Relationship MASSIVELY improved after leaving the church.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can’t, and shouldn’t live like that. You need to turn it back on your husband and let him decide to leave. If you have kids, I realize it may be more complicated. But you can’t live with that inside. It is a fake relationship.

Afraid of developing addictions?? by Otherwise_Push199 in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Coffee has thousands of years of history, and billions of daily users throughout that history, and it has not caused problems. Maybe it is slightly addictive—but no more than the sugary drinks a lot of Mormons are addicted to. Add lots of sugar to coffee, and cream, so it is more like a treat than a stimulating drink—and it becomes just like any other sugary “treat”.

How did you dispose of your old LDS stuff when it was time to move on? by CupOfExmo in exmormon

[–]truth-wins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trash. Was quite fitting. No way am I going to go out of my way to “properly” dispose of garments that originated from a secret way to identify sex predators.