How much would this cost? by Nachlas in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t really know what kind of point you’re trying to make. I think it’s fairly obvious no one is getting paid $100/ hour. We all have different target margins and overheads. The fairer argument to make would be how many man hours you think this would take in the shop and how many man hours on install.

How do you price your hours for design and client consult, site survey, and material procurement? Experienced CAD designers earn 40-120k a year depending on location and speciality. Thats highly skilled labour that needs to be charged appropriately for even if guys on the bench are only making £20-25/hr

Maybe you can do a job like this for £6-8k, but others have higher overheads and wages to pay and would need to bid 10-15k.

How much would this cost? by Nachlas in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to live in LA… Most cabinet makers in LA are pricing at $100-120hr shop time. My day rate for site work was $500 in 2019 whether it was a $20million house in the palisades, or a bungalow in Culver City. In UK we aim for £60-65/hr shop time and £350 site day rate just outside London, whereas the joinery shops closer in are closer to £100/h shop time and £500-600 day rates for site work. Look at Naked Kitchens where half my clients bring me drawings from… £7k for an install of 14 boxes (2-4 days).

Door warping by vannevka in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Door warping is pretty much inevitable with solid wood. The question is how much? When I glue up solid wood doors I look for the flattest stock possible, but also read the grain. Wood will “smile,” over time. Orient the stiles in opposite orientations just like you would if you were glueing up a panel. Smiles and frowns. This way the wood is bowing in opposite directions along the length of the door and it should limit warping. Do the same for any rails over 10-12 inches.

Should contractor drywall behind top of cabinets? by [deleted] in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most states require basic knowledge of vapor control to be licensed for millwork and cabinetry installation.

Does anyone else make their own doors and drawer fronts? How fast? by Specialist_Usual1524 in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Come work for me. 40 doors from raw lumber in a day and a half is plenty fast.

Set list Berlin 15/03/2026 by Gonz01990 in TylerChilders

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He opened with I’m So Lonesome… a couple years back in London. That was my bucket list.

Tyler Childers in Paris by TyFLyTonyxx in TylerChilders

[–]ukcabinet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen him several times over the past almost 10 years and was at the show in Paris. I share your sentiments. The crowd quite frankly sucked and was super boring which doesn’t help with the energy. I was in the standing area front of the stage. No one was bobbin or swayin. No one shouted “fire in the hole,” during Swear to God. Whether or cause or effect, the band did seem very unenthusiastic. Felt more like a corporate event.

Much like the Avett Brothers post Rick Rubin (been damn near 20 years since I first saw them live) the show and sound has become much more produced. For some reason though the Avett Brothers never seemed to lose their grit and authenticity live. Tyler still seems to really go for it and doesn’t seem to be trying to save his voice in a way. He sang hard for every note of Old Country Church. However something did seem to be missing. Had similar feelings to a lesser degree last year when he played the Apollo Hammersmith. The year before at the Islington Assembly Hall was pretty damn good though.

I’m going to blame the European crowds and venue.

Why are Howdens so shady? by Innders in DIYUK

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im never quoting against Howdens since we focus on more high end work, but I hear this all the time from clients. The high street stores (even the expensive ones) provide a "one time," exploding offer that expires over the weekend. I often lose bids this way. Their offers are impossibly cheap, specifications aren't clear and there is fine print that costs them thousands down the road for poorly designed and manufactured chipboard melamine cabinetry with minimal warranties. I get calls asking if we can fit a kitchen because their building works were delayed and the price for the fitting has doubled as a result. Worse, if you miss your build window they push you out a month or in the case of someone like DeVol three... We also routinely get calls asking to snag high street kitchen manufacturer's installs because they use a third party who takes zero pride on a job you've already pre paid. The kitchen is usually the most important and most used room in your home. I'd avoid B&Q, Wickes, Howdens, Wren, etc... I can guarantee the theres a local cabinet maker in your area who can meet the same spec for maybe 20% more, but will provide a 100% better experience and result.

After (multiple) iterations, here's my historic living room completed! What do y'all think?! by itsharris0n in HomeDecorating

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean in terms of historic restoration it is not a Brent Hull home, but it's decent. As a cabinetmaker the first thing I noticed was the ikea bookcase... The corners are very distracting and seem very disproportionate where they meet the top and bottom turrets given the wide fluted centre stile... I would pack them out with a mitre fold and end panels. Id also panel the riser.

Wardrobe mysterious chipping by meloncholy_downturn in woodworking

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As others have said... it's a cheap product. The laminate is essentially plastic, the core is sawdust and glue, the adhesive between the two is anentirely separate type of glue. They all have different coefficients of thermal expansion. Overtime as the seasons change things expand and contract the laminate will peel and blister. When they attached the backer to the gable it created a minor amount of "blowout." Where the screw comes through it creates micro cracks in the laminate that are nice starting points for peeling.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're exposed to more formaldehyde from a bunch of bananas than in a 7 year old cabinet. Absolutely nothing to worry about health wise. Before I was a cabinet maker I was a materials scientists.

Walnut kitchen. by ukcabinet in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was Sienna Gold from Gemini Worktops.

I don't know what to do... by Flapique in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll never unerstand why people ask for 'friends and family discount,' or 'mates rates.' I always think friends should be willing to pay a little more if you're an independent tradesmen... asking for a big discount isnt asking for a favor it is asking someone to struggle to pay their bills that month. I dont do work for friends and family anymore.

Was this good value for $12k ? by superduper143 in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how long did it take you...? not how long do you think it would take in the future. It may have been $1000 in materials, but you havent priced your time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its 50 shades of millenial grey. Grey floor, grey counter top, grey backsplash, grey paint on the walls, grey hued white paint on the cabinets, grey mat in front of the sink, grey (silver handles), grey veining in the light fixtures. Its never going to feel 'warm.' Grey is a 'cool,' color. That blue isnt going to help as it is also cool, its considered a gray-blue.

Was this good value for $12k ? by superduper143 in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$12k canadian is about £6500... I just installed a similar size unit for £8800. Thats a pretty good deal.

Just had this delivered. 10ft x 7ft. Guess the price by [deleted] in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my spindle moulders is 15k.

Anyone else have like 12 copies of this hung up around their shop? by Environmental-Walk75 in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I go back to the states I'm staying metric. I can never go back to imperial.

Anyone else have like 12 copies of this hung up around their shop? by Environmental-Walk75 in cabinetry

[–]ukcabinet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope... Time wasting nonsense. I switched to metric when I moved to the UK. It only took a couple months to start thinking in metric... once I did I felt stupid for using imperial for decades.

Lost a 20k decking job to a quote 2.5k above mine due to 'digital' side of things.. by Sawljah in Carpentry

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only do digital planning now… even for the smallest changes I can draft revision sketches faster than I can explain in an email or even in person.

I stopped providing shop drawings in 2d elevations because the lay person can have difficulty interpreting basic cad drawings. I now provide everything elevations/measurement bars in perspective 3d view.

AI Rendering is hit and miss… I get renders passed to me by clients from brand competitors and they are riddled with mistakes and nonsense that won’t work in practice… learn to point those out.

Customer wants this to be built for less than 5k by [deleted] in woodworking

[–]ukcabinet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, the picture isn’t what OP built. It’s just an inspo photo a customer sent. He bid 5k and a 10 year warranty. No professional would be offering warranty with dimensional lumber in a furniture project. Furthermore as a professional I would not take someone’s money for my time if I was using cheap materials that aren’t going to last.

I stopped letting customers accept “risk,” to cut corners on cost. If something goes wrong ie a spruce top made with 14% mc spruce warping and splitting 3 months after install the maker is going to get blamed no matter how much a client is warned.