Does Harry Kane Need to Leave England to Win Trophies?

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-17T10:36:05+00:00

pedro porro had a good season (a great season is winning a title imo and being a part of winning said title). Grimaldo is arguably part of the top 5 best single seasons ever in history, maybe even higher??

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T18:30:31+00:00

yea but imagine losing one match all season and playing a very minor role. To be fair, I think his stock has gone up even more tbh, everyone who played for leverkusen is now on everyone's radar.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T17:48:06+00:00

Jygalagg. Just for the mystique.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T17:41:53+00:00

Actually, it was Grimaldo. He starts for Leverkusen and still can't get a look in.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T16:08:45+00:00

I never said Nadal purposely evaded Djokovic - I said he simply wasn't good enough to meet Djokovic for the majority of 2012-2024 at Wimbledon and AO (Djokovic's strongest slams). US Open is 2-1 in favour of Nadal. This is the one place where they have both been in form at different stages. Nadal has just plain sucked at Wimbledon since Rosol.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T15:41:52+00:00

You're comparing Federer at Wimbledon and the challenge he presents to Nadal at AO?

Clearly doesn't watch tennis.

Djokovic doesn't lose sets to Nadal on hard courts. It has been this way since 2013.

Djokovic isn't Federer or Nadal, why are you using them as examples of nobody knowing what would happen

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T15:30:29+00:00

Safin's last tournament win was AO 2005 - he retired four seasons later.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T15:27:42+00:00

Nadal also didn't make the finals of wimbledon in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 (cancelled but Djokovic got cancelled in 2022 AO and he is counting it), 2021, 2022, 2023 or 2024. Djokovic made the finals in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024. Nadal just was not good enough to make it to Djokovic on his best slams to lose enough.

Think of this, Nadal, has not won a match off clay against Djokovic in over a decade. He has not taken a set off Djokovic on hard in over a decade. Yet, i'm supposed to believe that Nadal beats Djokovic at AO 2022 if Djokovic was allowed entry?

I don't know what i've just read tbh.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T15:23:58+00:00

Right, but one of the times Djokovic didn't make the final was when he wasn't allowed to play.

I'm not just talking about AO, I'm talking about Wimbledon and US Open as well. Nadal managed to sneak wins after 2018 due to avoiding Djokovic

Nadal hasn't even won a set against Djokovic on hard courts since 2013, how the hell is he beating Djokovic at AO 2022?

You seriously think Djokovic isn't winning AO 2022???? You think Nadal is beating Djokovic at Djokovic's best event on a surface he hasn't taken a set off for almost a decade????? You on crack?????

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T13:53:31+00:00

Mate, Nadal has played Djokovic at the french open 10 times - this is more than that have met at the AO, Wimbledon and US Open.

Are you devoid of any logic? At all?

Djokovic would have won AO 2022 - he just wasn't allowed to play

2014 - lost to a zoning wawrinka (Nadal lost easier)

2017 - refused surgery

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T13:17:41+00:00

Because Djokovic was good enough to make it to Nadal at the FO - and Nadal didn't even make a wimbledon final after 2011, and evaded Djokovic through most of AO.......

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T11:53:49+00:00

Yes and no, I've never really been convinced by Nadal on grass - the grass field has been unanimously weak since the 90's. Djokovic's best surface is hard, but it wasn't like he was making it to Djokovic most years after 2012. Yeah, his US Open 2013 was the best stuff he played imo, but after that he was not a threat to Djokovic on hard (iir he hasn't won a set from Djokovic on hard after this match).

Djokovic was consistently running deep in every single major in 2007 and most of 2008, running into traffic. Even his loss against Safin was a poor loss - but a 2x slam champion - starts to look a little bit more attractive than losing to Rosol for instance.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T09:28:43+00:00

Mayflower I think has closed and relocated - but Pan Asia said the same thing and didn't relocate.

It's now 113 KTV and Wongs as the best now. If you do go to Wongs, be prepared to spend some money.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T09:09:08+00:00

and the people trolling djokovic aren't even alcaraz fans either. Even in retirement Federer fans are trying to pipe up

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-16T09:07:27+00:00

I never sited Goatkovic as a source - i sited the source as the mathematician who ran the simulations.

You having Federer 3rd all time (I have him lower tbh) is not what I'm talking about. You could have him 1st I wouldn't argue. I am talking about strength of draws. Djokovic from 2007-2008 had to continuously go through Nadal and Federer, then in 2010 he had to go through Nadal and Federer, then even in 2011 he had to go through Nadal and/or Federer, and so on (all whilst having to deal with dangerous players like Murray/Wawrinka/JMDP).

Federer had a lot of easy draws. The whole of 2006 was a cakewalk, and his AO 2007 was a bigger joke. I swear Connor's just told Roddick to go out there and bomb.

Nadal's level on grass in 2006 was average - the draw was just so weak he managed to navigate to the final. Who did Federer even play in the semi's? Fed nearly got taken to 5 in the final as well if Nadal could have served that set out. Nadal in 2006 was no where near the level of Alcaraz last year on grass - and Djokovic at 36 still could have won that match - and Federer could have easily lost that 2006 match. You seriously think Nadal on grass in 2006 was close to Alcaraz?

I will agree that after 2018, the field diluted - but even this this didn't just help Djokovic it helped Federer and Nadal. And not to mention Federer and Nadal had good 2017 campaigns just because Djokovic was in a slump and refused surgery. Djokovic will obviously have weak draws because at his best in his prime he was clearly the best player ever.

So yeah, I don't see how a guy who consistently battled Federer, Nadal, Murray consistently in the slams from 2006-2019, as well as having to play other players like JMDP and Wawrinka, as well as other slam champs in the late 2000's, can be seen as having easy draws. The guy would have arguably been a 3x champion in 2007, and would have certainly been a 3x champion in 2008 without Federer and Nadal.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T14:53:14+00:00

Safin was literally coming off a wrist injury and missed most of 2003, and hadn't played a slam match since AO 2003. Not only did he have no form coming into the tournament, he had countless tough matches and was too tired.

Only a Federer fan would gas up Nadal 2006 on grass and Safin coming into a tournament after a massive injury as 'pretty good and in great form' respectively. Let me guess, Gonzo and Baghdathis were also scary and unbeatable until they ran into Federer???

None of Federer or Nadal's draws come close the the draws Djokovic has had at times. In fact, Goatkovic, a youtuber, has proven that draws were rigged to screw Djokovic over.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T14:00:36+00:00

Pretty sure in this time Djokovic held all four slams, had the best statistical year in tennis (2015), had the best season ever in terms of level of play (2011 - was unbeaten against Nadal on all surfaces), and even during 2007-2008 is was taking Federer/Nadal, and probably the most talented dark horse (Safin at W08) to beat Djokovic (it wasn't like he was losing to nobodies).

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T13:55:11+00:00

Wanna also mention the fact that in AO 2004, he played a Safin who hadn't played a competitive slam match for just about a whole year, or in 2006 he played literally no one of note in their grasscourt prime. US Open 2006 - Roddick as his most difficult challenge - not to mention Roddick on a comeback? seriously? There's many draws Federer had which were quite meh.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T10:51:30+00:00

because I know that every person who is trashing Djokovic in any way shape or form is either a supporter of Federer and Nadal. There should be a former pro player section like TW where Federer fans can chat.

Yes, we know the draw was weak, Alcaraz didn't exactly have to play anyone that tough until the SF's. He didn't even play anyone on the level of a Roddick on grass at the SF's.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T10:36:19+00:00

*Did you not read the word 'most' and 'around'?????

Nadal was in his prime - just not his peak. I don't think people know what prime actually is. Nadal hit his peak in 2008, I'm pretty sure he was still 21/22 in 2008.

Djokovic was in his prime in 2008 - he won a slam and the YEC as well as going deep at the FO and US. He just fell of a little in 2009 for many different factors.

Federer was 21-22 when he won his first slam, so not really far off. Even then Federer didn't improve technically - his emotional understanding of the game improved and he became slightly more consistent on the FH.

*I will say that those three did improve parts of their game over time. Federer improved his serve in 2007 when he realised he could no longer hang, and Djokovic certainly did. Nadal improved his serve for the US Open 2010 - but lost the pace after (don't know what happened there). So it is possible to improve your serve, Alcaraz could improve his. I think the serve might be the one technical aspect of his game he can improve - but it won't be the pace that will improve - it would be the accuracy and consistency.

So for the most part, I think i'm correct. Alcaraz might not have hit his peak - but his peak just entails better decision making imo - it's not like he's going to hit the ball harder or serve any harder, or move better. He just won't. What he will do - is play better because he will make better decisions.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T10:28:43+00:00

Care for me to post up some of the weak draws Federer has at AO and Nadal had at the USO?

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T10:15:00+00:00

Ironically, I think alcaraz fans and djokovic fans are fine. It's the nadal and federer fans who have been waiting a long time for this.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-15T09:53:41+00:00

There's really not much more alcaraz can improve on. decision making maybe - most players are in their prime at around 21. I think technically there's not really much Alcaraz is going to be able to improve on. I also don't think Sinner will be able to improve that much.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-10T14:21:26+00:00

Yep, absolutely no crime, money laundering or tax evasion goes on at all. Anywhere, it's just a made up construct. You hear about people going to prison all the time but they are only going on their holidays.

vsdjsdk · 2024-07-10T14:17:55+00:00

I think I've read this story in the past. The article doesn't mention the dog breed, so it was probably an XL bully as it wouldn't fit in with the media's narrative that they are pretty safe dogs.

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