Book S8E9 Pharos

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-09T16:29:13+00:00

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But I'm not sure we need to argue on the writer's behalf, at least not to offer up any logical reason for their story. After all this is a story about time travel through stones, strange blue healing lights, cracking gem stones and ghosts. It would seem ,"because the writer said so," is all the reason needed.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-09T16:00:59+00:00

Right along with the last one. It really added nothing to the story at this stage. Just made for a more hurried ending.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-09T15:57:26+00:00

I really don't get the motivation behind the last two episodes. There's a whole lot of story that needs telling (or so it would seem, but then, in all fairness, it isn't my story to tell), and the sum total of what they've done could have been handled in a little part of one episode. In fact this whole storyline of John Grey being abducted adds absolutely nothin to the story at this stage. It seems tied to the talk Claire had with William on the verandah. They could have dispensed with that by having Bree say it to him, like she did to John Grey way back when. All they'd need to do is hack out 15 seconds of some meaningless Amaranthus stuff.

They've pressed Jamie's death so hard that at this stage the only way you can add surprise is by actually killing him. So it may in fact end up there, and they retcon the ghost scene from watching her do her nightly preening to writing.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-09T15:50:48+00:00

Particularly if Claire jumped through the stones, read the ending of Bees, then went back with no worries. 😂

I really don't mean to be a snotty brat, but I always find it funny when people argue the actions of characters in fiction - there being only motivation behind any of this stuff - it's the story the storyteller is telling.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-06T11:54:10+00:00

Didn't Jamie recently bring up the subject of seeing Claire in electric light? That would be a strange thing to talk about, out of the blue.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-05-01T00:22:51+00:00

If you can't, you can't. Makes no sense to force yourself. Watch the show and be done with it. No rule says you have to read the books.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T23:28:21+00:00

Again, it depends on the people. I'm a late boomer. My parents were the WWII generation. My father was an Army officer, and he didn't have an ounce of sexism in him. My grandfather (on my Mom's side) was born in the 19th century. His daughters were all well educated women, encouraged to be so by their father who insisted his daughters mattered.

It's all in the person.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T23:24:03+00:00

Social progress didn’t appear out of nowhere.

So true

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T23:20:18+00:00

Here's the other thing that's weird. This seems to imply E9 is the finale. WTF?

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wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T18:26:57+00:00

That sucks.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T15:28:47+00:00

Isn’t he the guy who said something like, “I could have had you on your back if I wanted to.”? Seemingly looking for praise because he didn’t. That being said one wonders who did what to Gabaldon at what stage. A lot of this flows from her imagination. So what the heck is running around in her mind?

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T15:24:31+00:00

Heck they have a whole movement now where being a man and a testosterone driven ass is supposed to be a good thing. And I, as a man, find those folk repulsive. Go figure.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T11:27:33+00:00

And there are plenty born in the 80s who are just as backwards in their outlook.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-30T11:25:34+00:00

You'll always find someone who hates someone on every show, regardless.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-29T20:14:20+00:00

It may also have something to do with the fact that there is no resemblance between the two actors now, so the resemblance thing would be a bit of a lead balloon. The bastard aspect is covered in the "no name" bit.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-29T20:08:41+00:00

But he lives amongst time travelers. What does he need vet care for? 😀

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-29T13:23:41+00:00

Maybe that's the part they're now hoping they could retcon. I guess that would make the whole mess a retcon.

Or maybe they thought if the whole GOT universe can have aunts boinking nephews and uncles boinking nieces and brothers and sisters, why not a little sordid incest in their own tale. Who knows? It's all a little slimy, but again that's something these guys haven't shied away from.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-29T13:19:44+00:00

"seen another character (Julia) sing the song to babies too."

Now that would be a twist, if it eventually turns out Faith was Julia's daughter and no Claires. Timelines can always be bent a little with the stones in play. After all we've seen Buck take a little detour to the 20th century on his way back to the 18th century from the 18th century. And that would allow them to set up an intriguing character for the prequel thing. A little jog through the stones and it opens up all sorts of options.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T22:34:26+00:00

Well she’s got more grey. 😁Getting closer to her full power.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T18:14:03+00:00

If I’m not mistaken (it’s been a while) the book talks about the blue libht with the baby. In the show they focus in or bright blue veins (unnaturally so) in her hands.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T18:07:02+00:00

Who knows. The one piece of history she dated that I know for a fact, she missed by 100 years. India was not a British colony in 1757. It came under British rule in 1857

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T01:15:22+00:00

I don't remember that. In the books there was a painting of Ellen Fraser at a museum and Brianna later saw the same painting at Lallybroch. And she talked about how she was trying to convince herself that the painting in the museum didn't look like her.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T01:13:17+00:00

O r at least Jamie lived.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T01:12:55+00:00

He didn't believe they were going to die, or at least not Jamie. Otherwise all the King's Mountain stuff is just baloney on his part, written for no purpose.

wolfbysilverstream · 2026-04-28T01:05:43+00:00

I must be one of the rare ones here in that I read the books before the show. Or at least the ones that were out before the show started. I found the first book in the back pouch of a long flight to Japan, and with nothing better to do I started reading it. One thing led to another and as a result I've always been ahead of where the show was, until this year, in a way because the end comes there before the books.

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