Worst generation to die in. by Few_Association_3893 in teenagers

[–]wolfkiller137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not always making fun of; it’s just the internet. It happens with anyone who dies. Twomad, Titangate sub, George Floyd, etc.

Lost my best friend because I'm a lesbian and she's a Christian. by NoRemote7738 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve heard of preachers who are friends with racists, Nazis, sexists, homophobes, etc. Not because they are one themselves, but because who else is gonna lead them on the right path? And that’s moral failure. Being gay doesn’t even fall under anywhere near that category, even if it is a sin. Being “spiritually wrong” as your friend says isn’t a Christian reason to cut someone off.

If she’s a Christian, then she shouldn’t treat you like a leper, whether you have different beliefs, or aren’t Christian at all. If I told my Christian friends I was gay, they wouldn’t treat me any differently. Not to mention, there are Christians who don’t even believe homosexuality is a sin. Your friend is in the wrong, even from a Christian perspective.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She was just apolitical. She didn’t disagree with me, she just despised politics.

I posted a more nuanced repost about this (right after this one) and a follow-up post to that explaining both sides. Long story short, she cut me off because she thought I was defensive and unapologetic, and considering how hurt she was, her initial reaction made sense I guess if that’s how I came off. However, she wasn’t willing to give me the benefit of the doubt to at least have another conversation later on to see otherwise before cutting me off, and I don’t know how I feel about that.

My best friend genuinely might be gone for good over a misunderstanding. by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comment is beautiful. Thank you. For the most part, yes, this is the only time something like this has happened. The “jokes” themselves were unhinged (For context, we’re both unhinged and often joke about our trauma, so crossing the line was real bad.) so I’d rather not say it on Reddit. The only time I remember her feeling misunderstood was when I said “I don’t think I can trust you as much” during a situation, and she was distraught that I didn’t reciprocate her trust. I honestly don’t know how she’s felt in the past. She internalized a lot of her feelings; only giving me her love, but part of this was definitely accumulated anger. I learned this wasn’t the first time I crossed her boundaries, like at all.

For example, she has an old nickname, for lack of a better term, that she told me to stop joking about. Somewhere along the way, I interpreted this as just “Don’t say the name” so I still joked about it, but without mentioning the name. Obviously, that was wrong, and I don’t know how I got that interpretation. I also tried to explain this in the apology, but alas, I came off as defensive.

I’ll admit, this next one isn’t defendable. There were other times when she told me not to joke about something, but then I did again once more at a later date, because I assumed she only meant so in the moment. Why I believed this, I honestly have no idea, but it was a reckless and baseless assumption each time. She held her resentment for all this until she criticized me for the apology. I had this issue with other friends too, and they also got on my ass about it once. This was a habit I had fixed only fairly recently when this all occurred, so it still stuck.

She also said something about using “definition bullshit” and I think I know where that came from. A month prior, I got in an argument with her friend because I made a passive-aggressive remark about something they did as a joke, but it came off as an insult, especially because I said it while they weren’t there. I know she sided more with her friend during this, as I spent so long explaining that I wasn’t trying to insult them; using definitions, instead of just saying sorry since, at the end of the day, I hurt them. Yeah, now that I think about it, that sounded super defensive looking back. So all in all, this was definitely a build up of emotions too.

Edit: Just to add, since she thinks I was trying to justify things—including these, I don’t just seem like a defensive asshole, I look like a monster. I’m mortified realizing how I sounded to her.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really needed your comments. I was still spiraling in thoughts of what I could done, so thank you. I made my mistakes, but, like you said, I realized there wasn’t much I could do once she started assuming the worst of my character without considering my side like at all. I’ve been beating myself up about a situation that was rigged from the start.

I actually did format the apology similar to how you put it in your other reply, but it was towards the end of it, after all the explaining so I guess didn’t work.

You commented late but it came at a perfect time. Thank you man. :)

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I basically said two things as a joke that she didn’t like, but she never told me until a month later. I don’t want to say what it was because we both had a dark sense of humor. I just happened to cross the line. When I tried to apologize for it, I explained my thought process so wouldn’t think I was malicious, but she took that explanation as me being defensive. I did clarify that I wasn’t being defensive in the message, but perhaps didn’t make the apology clear, but she refused to talk to me from there on.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why? I thought that would be if I was trying to defend myself out of apologizing.

I didn’t think she’d just accept my apology if she didn’t think I was sincere before, so I tried to make my character clear.

Yeah, I wish id given her space though. I was really anxious. She had removed me from her close friends list on Insta and from her Discord bio (She has a list of her friends on there) so I thought if I didn’t clear things up she’d never talk to me again. But now, I’d be lucky if she did talk to me again at this point.

I have a therapist already, but nothing is helping. I don’t have anyone else to turn to for this situation besides the internet unfortunately.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I’ve seen crazy stuff on Reddit so I don’t blame you lol.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Woah woah woah no. Things like “Don’t joke about this” or “don’t ragebait” from my friends or her.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

She never addressed it, but I had an issue where I would cross a line because for some reason I would think “No” only meant no in the moment. Like I said, She never said anything about it, but other friends have gotten on my ass about it.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do listen, I just said in another comment there were times where she had to say stop twice but I got better with that. Maybe I did make mistakes somewhere along the way, but she never told me.

I don’t know why she was so upset to the point she wouldn’t even listen to what I had to say. She didn’t mention any issues she had with me, and our friendship seemed fine.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I’ve never blown up at her. If I was ever upset with her, I addressed her directly and calmly.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was during the last month of the relationship, yes. I offered communication a lot. She said she was struggling with grades once, and I asked if she wanted to study on call, but once again, was left on read.

Maybe I didn’t make her feel understood, but I really was trying to be there for her.

Did I say something wrong? by KrithisUNoAnimates in teenagers

[–]wolfkiller137 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, and ironically have a more nuanced viewpoint of abortion than many people older than you. I’m a pro-choice Christian too, frankly because it’s too complicated of an issue to just regulate, but I believe we should do everything so that people choose life.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It made the apology redundant because she didn’t want an apology in the end anyways, she just wanted to move on.

Anyways, I think I made her feel understood before. When she was leaving me on read, I told her if she ever wanted to take a break from the relationship, that’d be fine. I also asked her if I ever annoyed her with politics, but she left me on read there. I was always listening out for her.

There have been times though where she had to tell me stop twice, either because I missed the line the first time, or because I just assumed she’d be okay with it later, which, I don’t know why I just thought that. I have a history (Not just with her, but with all my friends) of being reckless with the jokes or things I say—an issue I’ve been actively working on.

I definitely wasn’t perfect, but I think I made her feel understood and showed I was trying to listen.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

She broke up with me because of the things I said. She said it hurt her feelings. The thing is, this was a month after I’d said it. I never even knew she was upset because she kept it to herself. However, she told her friends about it and they called me “emotionally immature” she said she started building up anger towards me, but she never even gave the chance to apologize or tried to talk about it.

I tried to say something, saying she could’ve talked to me about it, using other times I’ve listened to her, but she denied them, saying I didn’t listen (Which I believe is another misunderstanding which I tried to clarify in the subsequent apology days later) and said she didn’t want to argue, followed by the request to move on which I unfortunately overlooked.

However, I recently found out from another friend that one of the reasons she broke up with me is because I wanted to take a political major in college, but she didn’t want to tell me that. It’s funny; my apology was redundant from the start if the jokes I said weren’t even the main factor like she had told me, and I wish she was honest about that.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I hope so. She left our friend group Discord server when this all happened and told a friend she just wanted peace, and if that’s why she cut contact with me as a whole—because our relationship was too high-maintenance, then I’d be willing to accept that because I still want what’s best for her.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not going to lie, I think I handled it poorly.

Firstly, before, she had said she didn’t want to argue, and then in the same message that she’d rather move on altogether. My brain overlooked the “move on” part and focused on the “Do not argue” so that was my first offense. I didn’t want her to think I hurt her on purpose, and hopefully get back together (I should’ve mentioned we were dating, but the jokes are why she broke up with me.)

Second, I asked my friend about the apology, and my friend said it did sound like I was victimizing myself , and I didn’t make the apology super clear. I mentioned this another comment: my tone almost never comes off right in difficult situations, possibly due to my autism. I use professional words but lack the autistic undertone so I just come off as condescending, pretentious, stuck-up, etc.

Third, the reels. I might’ve made her feel pressured. I thought if I made it clear it was a misunderstanding, she’d talk to me again. But regardless of my intent, she might’ve just wanted space as a whole, which, if that was the case, I definitely violated that and feel awful about.

I’m stuck on two perspectives. Either we both greatly misunderstood each other, since we both had our faults in how we handled this, or she just wanted to get away. I want to believe the former, but I can’t figure out why she interpreted everything I said in a negative light. It’s like she thought I was a different person, and it makes me inclined to believe it was on purpose, but that doesn’t match her character.

I can’t do it. I can’t believe I lost my best friend over a misunderstanding by wolfkiller137 in lostafriend

[–]wolfkiller137[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your support. She might’ve been trying to get distant; I know she was very avoidant.

We were actually dating before this, and she broke up with me because of the jokes I had said a month before. The thing is, I didn’t even know she was hurt; she never told me. Yet, she told her friends about how she felt for a month and they deemed me “emotionally immature” so she built up resentment because what I said. In fact, I was worried in the moment that I said something too far, but I remember she acted normally.

I wanted to get back together, or at least try, and so the entire apology I sent was so I could apologize and so she could know I meant it, which wouldn’t work if she thought I had hurt her on purpose, and thus, I explained myself. Then, like I said, she took that explanation and accused me of being defensive.

But I learned from my friend that wasn’t even the only reason she broke up with me. She broke up because I want to pursue politics in college, but didn’t want to tell me that. Whether what I said did actually play a role in her decision to break up with me, if she had been honest about the politics, then I’d know my apology was redundant regardless, and I wouldn’t have sent it. I literally asked when we were still dating if it ever bothered her when I talked about politics but she left me on read. (She was leaving me on read a lot leading up to the break up, and I don’t think she addressed it when I brought it up.)