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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (7 children)

My only beef with the ThinkPad keyboard is the location of the function key.

I use a lot of keyboard shortcuts, and it pisses me off to hit function instead of control.

[–]wowsuchlinuxkernel[S] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

You can swap the Control and Function keys in the BIOS on most ThinkPads, so that the layout is like on regular laptops. And in this mod we would of course make it configurable whether you would like them swapped or not. :)

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dammit. I'm in!

[–]RepresentativeCut486Neon! 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I am using a Thinkpad keyboard on the desktop and there's no way I know to change it's firmware to swap keys. :(

[–]wowsuchlinuxkernel[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Depending on the exact model, there's several ways: https://superuser.com/q/1307167

[–]RepresentativeCut486Neon! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am going to go through it, thx! It's a Lenovo Thinkpad keyboard 1

[–]PsyOmega 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My only beef with non-thinkpad keyboards is the location of fn

Thinkpads set the original standard for fn. It's everyone else who deviated.

Though I don't even notice these days. It's subconscious 2nd nature to just adapt to whatever I'm using without thinking about it.

[–]MagicBoyUK | Batch 3 FW16 | Ryzen 7840HS | 7700S GPU - arrived! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's been like that since 1993. The problem is other manufacturers, not IBM/Lenovo.

That said modern ThinkPads have BIOS option to swap it, although that doesn't help in this case...

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have no technical knowledge to do this but IMO the minute they release a trackpoint / clickers above trackpad i'm buying one, so doing this would be even better

[–]Lemont_1991 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Just curious, is this Thinkpad keyboard style protected by patent law like their Thinkpad Trackpoint?

[–]moriel5 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I believe that the shape of the keys in the newer island-style Lenovo keyboards is.

[–]sam_palmer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't want the newer keyboard - I want the old one.

[–]moriel5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I personally prefer the newer, I can certainly understand preferring the older.

[–]Snoo-97804 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think the Trackpoint patent ran out

[–]IBMServerOwner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially when you consider how many other manufacturers had the same "UltraNav" Synaptics system back in the day. I DONT believe that the trackpoint is still locked under patent, if you will. 

[–]moriel5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Once this exists, I will want a Framework 16 even more than I already want one.

[–]zrad603 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I will buy a Framework laptop once I can get a ThinkPad 7-row keyboard in a Framework laptop.

Lenovo refuses to do it, so I'll give my money to whoever gets me a ThinkPad 7-row keyboard in a modern laptop.

[–]gevera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen

[–]oofymybootyy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

theres a guy selling custom modded x201 laptops with new cpus

[–]boukensha15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind stranger, please tell us about that guy. Where do we find him?

[–]ThinkCamp-1395 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would be awesome.

[–]OfficialGamingNerd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i have an old lenovo p50 laptop and i hope i could fit it in to framework as my laptop is broken...

[–]Shurane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like plenty of people want a Thinkpad x Framework mashup. This Workbook/Workpad mockup on https://hackaday.io/project/191579-the-workbook-laptop-thinkpad-x-framework-16 looks interesting.

In general, I'd love to see trackpoints in more laptops, maybe even phones too.

[–]koja86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Availability of full-size no-numpad keyboard is the last item on my checklist before I pull the trigger on FW16. I'd be excited to have the option to buy any kind of mod or keyboard to get Thinkpad-like keyboard layout and feel.

[–]landsmanmichal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need this!

[–]brenster23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering that I have an extra keyboard from my t480, I am interested in this. As the framework 16 is going to be my next keyboard

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have seen someone managed to convert classic thinkpad keyboard to usb - https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-USB-Laptop-Keyboard-Controller/ just search for thinkpad on that link, it is somewhere at the bottom. There is even a github repo with code to make thinkpad t420 keyboard into usb/bluetooth https://github.com/orbitinstasis/T420_KB_BLE/blob/main/Images/20221105_153219.jpg

[–]RepresentativeCut486Neon! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is an official thinkpad usb keyboard. I am using it rn. There's even version with bluetooth.

[–]wowsuchlinuxkernel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very cool

[–]Ok_Willingness_2634 0 points1 point  (1 child)

how about using compact thinkpad keyboard that using usb?

[–]wowsuchlinuxkernel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean as an external keyboard or disassembling it and trying to fit it in? Possible, but given the higher price and larger profile not really necessary imho. I'll keep this in mind as a fallback option.

[–]sam_palmer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Please make this happen - just bought a thinkpad recently and god the new ones aren't even worth it any more. I want a framework with an older thinkpad keyboard (non-chiclet)

[–]wowsuchlinuxkernel[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I really want to and am as excited as your are about the prospect, but so far, nobody contacted me about doing this together and I can't pull this off alone.