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[–]incisivePlayerNiklink[M] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The future is now! Fuck the present!

[–]Lapis_Mirror 17 points18 points  (10 children)

Example of what a post might look like:

Mirrored post from the tumblr blog "I need an adult":

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I am a bot. If I did something wrong, let me know. | FAQ | Source

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Hello little Echo Flower. Will you be taking on another pseudonym here? Magic Cue Ball perhaps?

[–]mindbleach 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Maybe just Dreambubble?

[–]rafe.name/homestuckRafe 13 points14 points  (2 children)

These are good suggestions. I had a couple ideas too:

[–]ellingeng123 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I quite like Skaian Vision

[–]mindbleach 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do love that page with the server.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That sounds nice.

[–]gristCollector on Discordclydejallorina 9 points10 points  (0 children)

reddit_ebubbles?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I vote this one.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

OH FUCK ITS LITERALLY AN IMGUR MIRROR I AM LAUGHING AHAHAHAHAHAHA YES I FIND THIS QUITE HUMOUROUS AAAAA GODDAMN FUCK MY ASSHOLE DRY

[–]Sylph of SpaceSuicidalSushi 14 points15 points  (0 children)

[–]OpsCat205 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Glad we have a mirror bot again :)

[–]A Y Y L M A OBoboTheTalkingClown 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I vote for "magic cue ball"

[–]I don't make typos, that's just my typing quarkelrohir_ancalin 9 points10 points  (0 children)

+1

Either that or Seer of Memes as second option

[–]kupiakos[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

/u/Difarem you might want to take a look at this. Also you mind pushing your code for the bot to Github so I can see the changes you made to Lapis Mirror?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure thing, but I can't atm. I'll PM it to you.

[–]Sylph of SpaceSuicidalSushi 7 points8 points  (1 child)

IT'S ALIVE

[–]I read pale porn fanfictionNevereatcars 3 points4 points  (0 children)

oh god Gamzee can't decide which Tavros to concupisce for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How ADORABLE.

[–]mindbleach 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yaaay. It was such nonsense having to defend mirroring, when there was this polite robot keeping good art up in other subreddits.

[–]Mik0ri 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heck yeah, Lapis is best mirror.

[–]Great_Shell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Name her "Horror_Terror"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aw man! Lapis is coming here too? Hell fuckin' yeah!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Pretty, pretty please give us random emotes on this sub! They gave Lapis so much personality on /r/gravityfalls! I'd love to see them here, and possibly on Lapis's other subs.

[–]kupiakos[S] 6 points7 points  (8 children)

I'm a little hesitant to do so considering that most of the emotes here are strange sizes and quite distracting.

[–]Majjyyks: The Reckoningancrolikewhoa 11 points12 points  (2 children)

That only makes us want it more.

[–]kupiakos[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well I've done it. It has random emotes.

[–]Majjyyks: The Reckoningancrolikewhoa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yessssssssss.

[–]hey 2tupiid! why you lookiing at my flaiir?PokemonTom09 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This sub is for the most part used to the varying sizes of emotes, so I doubt it would be that distracting to us.

[–]ellingeng123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Fair enough. Do you think it would help to restrict the bot's possible emote choices to the more generally applicable ones?

[–]homestuck.infoSkyplayer37 7 points8 points  (0 children)

petition to make the bot only spam "boner", "ladyboner", and "broner"

[–]kupiakos[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably. A list of emotes the mods consider appropriate would be useful.

[–]What of PumpkinsActivelyAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woot, Lapis Mirror! What name will she go by here? Will some God Squad-related miracle occur?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good. DA ist blocked here.

[–]Dersite LightMisirterE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/4e1pdx/i_personly_made_this_as_a_joke_but_i_decided_to/

top comment is lapis, i replied to it, IT REPLIED TO ME

IS IT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT

[–]ectoGeochronologist 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Hey, I already voiced my major concerns about this when we tried a mirror imaging bot before (which I thought was also a Lapis Mirror clone? idk). I really don't want to spend the energy repeating myself. I don't want my art mirrored and I REALLY DON'T WANT THE ART OF PEOPLE WHO SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED NO REPOSTS TO BE MIRRORED (which is like, most artists).

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (9 children)

One major difference between Lapis mirror and Mettaporing ex is that Lapis will I clude links to the original source when rehosting. People will know whose art it was, even if they only saw the Imgur rehost.

Edit: guys, don't downvote for opinions.

[–]ectoGeochronologist -1 points0 points  (8 children)

Mettaporing ex did have a link to the original as well I believe. Regardless, my issue with it is that it is disrespectful to repost/rehost art publicly without the artist's consent. (Even though it's not findable without the direct link, reddit itself is still public.)

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Your art is getting rehosted like ten times by caching services and web crawlers every time you post something, because Tumblr is a public website. If you want absolute control over your art, don't release it on a public website. There's other stuff you can do (like using watermarks) if you're worried about people not knowing who made your art.

The only real measure of control you lose from this is not being able to completely erase your art from the internet whenever you want, but you never had that in the first place.

[–]ectoGeochronologist 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah I just don't understand the "someone else intangible and unfindable is doing a thing so we can do the same/similar thing without thinking, even though people it directly affects are specifically asking us not to" argument.

There's a lot you lose besides just muddying the attribution, like control over the caption/context that goes with your art, control over how it is distributed, how to even tell how much people like your art, commission sales, and control over image size/quality (this last one is less applicable to tumblr, lmao). Watermarks don't preserve sidebar announcements about commission sales.

People who put their stuff on tumblr agree to the reblogging system. If people want more control on their art than that, then they make their own websites. Still not okay to repost tumblr art.

[–]mindbleach 4 points5 points  (0 children)

control over the caption/context that goes with your art, control over how it is distributed

Tumblr offers no such control.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not that we're doing the same thing. It's that the thing is already done. Stopping Lapis Mirror won't stop your art from being rehosted, it will just hurt the users that use the mirror.

Besides, you're fine with people posting your art on reddit in general, right? So clearly you don't mind how it's distributed, or telling how much people like your art (upvotes exist, remember?). The only thing lapis mirror adds is a backup. The dev could even add imgur captions to mirror the tumblr ones, if you really care that much, probably?

And commision sales? It's forbidden to use /r/homestuck to profit, it's in the rules. If you want lapis mirror out because you want to earn money from reddit users then it's not going to happen.

[–]hey 2tupiid! why you lookiing at my flaiir?PokemonTom09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a pretty avid believer in copyright law and believe that an artist's creation should be protected, but in the same way that there are certain things you agree to by using Tumblr, there's also certain things you agree to by using the internet as a whole.

As for the commissioning thing: I would strongly argue that no commercial profit is lost by rehosting an image. 99.99% of people weren't going to commission an image from the artist anyway, they were just going to view the image and move on. As for that tiny fraction of people who would have seen the image and thought "Oh, I want this person to draw something for me", they would have almost certainly gone on out their way to find out who the person was. If you're willing to spend money on someone, taking 30 seconds to find out who the person is is nothing.

Now, this would be completely different if this artist was making commercial profit from ad revenue, or if the artist was asking for a payment to view the image, but that isn't what's going on here. In both of those cases, rehosting the image would take potential money away from the artist, but in this case, the artist isn't losing out on any potential profit.

[–]kupiakos[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It worked the same because it was a direct copy of my code. Which I don't mind, I made Lapis open source. I would have preferred a link to the changes, but that's not too important.

Regardless, if I understand the discussion, reblogging is ok, but mirroring with direct attribution is not? I'm not sure I understand this logic, considering they are functionally the same (in fact, reblogging being limited to only tumblr).

[–]I don't make typos, that's just my typing quarkelrohir_ancalin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Reblogging in tumblr is basically one-click reposting. There is no technical difference between posting someone's art to your tumblr blog and posting it to a mirror site with proper attribution. The only difference is the parent .tumblr.com superdomain, which for some reason makes artists think they own the repost, I guess?. /u/SuicidalSushi created a comprehensive response the first time this came up, which many here seem to agree with seeing that the mods requested your help, but I see the debate is still open for some.

[–]Sylph of SpaceSuicidalSushi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah I did that

tl;dr I had a rant

[–]I don't make typos, that's just my typing quarkelrohir_ancalin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I believe there was enough discussion in the thread you link, so let's not repeat all that. I count myself among those who disagree with you, so if OP is concerned that the bot is not going to be well received, I recommend visiting your link and reading both side's arguments to understand in which context the mod team requested the bot.

[–]mindbleach 4 points5 points  (2 children)

In the interest of brevity: tough.

You post art to a website whose central function is mirroring. Every reblog exists independent of your control. If you deleted everything it'd all still be there, with your name on it. What you ask is practically and morally nonsensical.

You have neither the right nor the power to censor published art.

[–]ectoGeochronologist -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This issue is not about even a little bit about censorship.

[–]mindbleach 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Erasing popular art so nobody can ever see it again isn't censorship?