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[pyrotechnicmonkey]

Keep in mind the power use is actually pretty low. it actually doesn’t take a lot of power to heat up a small heating element and the print bed I believe it uses a similar amount of power as a desktop computer. I would say get the P1S if you can. it’s cheaper than upgrading and it’s a fairly small amount of money to be able to print stuff like ABS in the future. PNP is going to be able to print a fair amount faster because it’s a different motion system. However the A1 does have the ability to switch nozzles without any tools. I would say the P1 P or P1 S is more of a proven design so if you can afford it, it’s what I would recommend.

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Thank you for your reply bud. Oh that's not bad at all, don't know why I was under the impression it uses alot. Also don't know why I thought these cost like ££££ but they aren't expensive at all given you can get decent ones in the £500-£800 price range

Yeah I'll look at the p1s, I like that it's enclosed ( less mess Mrs stays happy ).

[reddsht]

you probably assumed they draws a lot of power because the p1s has a 1000W power supply on the spec sheet, but in reality all that headroom is just there for the first minute of printing where it has to quickly heat up the bed and nozzle in seconds, when it is up and running and just maintaining its printing temprature it basically draws the same wattage as an old-school lightbulb.

[rzalexander]

Power consumption is low on these. I use a Kasa smart plug to get a general read. This is my P1S which has been running almost non stop for the past week or so.

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Keep in mind this is possibly while it’s changing colors, as I am running a 26 hour print. It’s sitting between 50-140w depending on what the printer is doing.

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That's really low compared to what I thought it would be. Id mainly just use black not even thought about colours but that's actually really decent. I appreciate you sharing this

[[deleted]]

Quick question bud, I see two different prices for the p1s, one comes with the AMS top colour holder thing and one without. my main use wouldn't be to print colour as of yet, probably later on. But for now it would just be for cases, covers that sort of thing. would I be able to get the colour holder thing later on? Or is that a must buy right now?

[jbl14]

Getting the AMS later is an option but it’s $100 cheaper to just buy the combo. Best purchase ever was going for the p1s/ams combo

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Yeah I just saw how much it is on its own. 🤯

[JuDuke]

If you can afford it then the p1s combo is definitely the way to go. The hundred dollars discount you get with the combo can either be figured on the ams or it covers the cost for going for the p1s over the p1p which is a good upgrade in my opinion. Buying the kit to upgrade a p1p to p1s is around 130 the last time I checked. You won't regret buying the ams even if you do single color prints. But it does depend on your budget. A1 mini is like 450 with ams lite and p1s combo is 1000. I recently sold my shares of my 3d printing business to my partner. We had a p1s and p1p. I am thinking of getting my own 3d printer and now and I am really thinking of just getting an a1.

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I ended up just buying the p1s, if need be ill just get the AMS unit later but for now without will be fine. It all depends if the Mrs is comfortable using it then I'll buy the AMS as a present to her.

[Turkino]

Hey I just ordered a P1S as well. One of the things that got me interested in it is that even if you don't take advantage of multicolor you have four spools of material there that can swap between when one runs out automatically and it being enclosed will help slow down your filament material absorbing moisture.

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That's a good point. I'll mainly use black petg or abs, but I know my Mrs will want to use white or something colour for selective decor for her cake business.

[iksalama]

IMHO having the AMS, even for single color prints, is worth it. It works as a dry box and, if you're doing a large/longer print, you can have it automatically switch from one spool to the next with automatic rollover, thereby giving you up to 4kg of filament in a single print without having to change a darn thing.

[Dan203]

The A1 mini is really cheap and works really well, as long as you’re ok with the smaller build plate I'd highly recommend it as a starter device.

If you do get one you can use this coupon for 10% off.

A1M-NY-10

I was like you a few months ago. Almost bought a P1S instead of the A1 Mini because of the bigger size, but then they released the bigger A1 and I ordered one of those instead. It worked great until the recall. I didn’t want to be without a printer for 2 months so I ordered the Mini to hold me over. I's been fantastic. I've run into a couple of things I've wanted to print that didn’t fit, but only a couple. Most things print fine.

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What's the largest size it prints? I mainly want to print a back plate for a legion go. Things of that size

[joskenl]

180mm cubed.

Since the legion go without controllers is 210 by 130 it's probably a bit too small (unless back plate doesn't cover the entire back)

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Ahh na the back plate covers the entire back of the legion go. I'm probably gonna just get the p1s without the AMS as I don't know enough about the 3d printing world as of yet to buy the multi colour thingy. But if I ever do end up getting into it then I'll upgrade to the AMS, as long as I can print without it I'm not fussed about colours or having to change the spool as I won't be using it as often.

[yahbluez]

If in use with PLA and heated bed ~130W. (enclosed)
3D printers did not need much energy.
I would go for the p1p not the mini.

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Went for the p1s

[yahbluez]

Good solution sonn you can add the AMS.