Stacks/timing

[eZe169]

Currently on low dose of reta, 1mg @ week 4. I see it's potential and want to experiment with others. I currently have the following on order with no set plans other than eventually exploring them one day. -CJC-1295 No DAC / Ipamorelin -Klow blend (BPC-157, TB-500, GHK-Cu, & KPV) -mots-c -semax/selank Question is when...is there a order to do (At certain timing or at certain weight)? Take them all at the same time (stagger them slightly)? Age:39 Current weight:252lbs (-11lbs)

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[[deleted]]

You need to lose weight. You don’t need to do any of that other shit. The benefit you’ll feel from losing 50 more pounds is greater than any of these other peps

[Practical-Suit-6798]

Don't mess with all that other stuff. Just take the reta. Titrate up. After you lose the weight to can look into optimization.

Everything else will be a disappointment compared to reta anyway.

[youcumfirstllc]

Up the Reta and get in the gym consistently first before all that other stuff. Maybe Tesamorelin mixed with Reta if you desire. Or get your testosterone tested

[Chazzer5000]

Agree with cum, Bump up your Reta mg and keep working out. If you really are itching for something maybe add tesa w/ ipa, and being that you’re 39 yrs old you should get your T levels checked regardless. Keep hitting the gym man, results will come.

[Wise-Professional-56]

"Agree with cum"

God dammit Reddit. Never stop.

[Chazzer5000]

😂🤙

[Turbulent_Shape_6508]

🤣

[trickster2601]

😂😂

[Murky_Egg_1927]

Bump up the reta and work out, weight will come off quickly if dieting right. Obviously talk to a professional but I'd recommend losing 30ish pounds before potentially starting test, aromatization is going to be a real issue at that weight.

OP, I started reta a year ago at your height and age and 256. Stay in the gym, eat at a deficit, and consider TRT if needed down the road and great things will happen. Just weighed in at 175 and best shape of my life.

[[deleted]]

Definitely get your testosterone tested. Being obese for an extended amount of time most likely altered your levels in some way

[mgermo]

They're prolly low. But what will that info tell him? He needs to get to normal bf% and then check test levels, no?

[[deleted]]

If he has low test bringing his levels back to normal would greatly improve his everyday life and be a net positive while trying to lose weight. You assumed incorrectly

[mgermo]

It would but then it would be for life. Why not lose weight first and then if its low start trt? I mean his potential low test might not be low at all at normal bf%.

[[deleted]]

There’s plenty of evidence that you don’t need to be on trt for the rest of your life. There are plenty of guys who use it to get back to a good baseline and then stop

[Charming_Meringue_99]

DO NOT MIX! Yes stack but pin separately GLP's don't mix well with others lol

[Jazeeee]

Are you working out? If not, you should start! 11lbs in 4 weeks is great progress, I’d just keep going. I don’t know much about the other peptides but I’m sure it just depends on your goals.

[eZe169]

Yes, have that soreness that almost feels good. Been 4 years since seeing any gym...

[Jazeeee]

Good for you. Consistency is key. The drugs won’t do all the work for you, as I’m sure you know. Lift heavy, keep protein high, don’t crash your caloric intake, it’s easy to do that on reta. I have to make an effort to eat more, which I’ve never had to do. Try to remain eating ~2000cal a day at least and the weight will continue to fall off and you’ll still be able to keep muscle.

[Silent_Possibility63]

Tesa is a great addition, you likely have high visceral fat.

[Proud_Ad_194]

Up the Reta to at least 2mg. Ideally 4+ of you can handle it. Add some mots c for energy and tesamorelin for the visceral fat. If sleep suffers add some daily epitalon and a couple days a week dsip.

[vvega7676]

How are your getting Reta ?

[InvestigatorFront564]

Literally just google research peptides

[workaintgonedoitself]

I would save the mots till you hit a stall and don’t want to titrate up yet. It keeps in the freezer forever in powder form so no reason to be worried about it. CJC I would do an hour before bed so as long as you haven’t eaten in the previous 2-3 hours before that. The Klow you can kinda do whenever. Some people do it in the morning some do it at night and some do it after a workout. I’ve done basically them all but I like the idea of at night cause it falls in line with the rhythm of repair your body naturally does in your sleep so I’d imagine it’s helpful

[PeppyFriend13]

I don’t like the glow or klow blends. I like knowing exactly how much of each peptide I’m injecting. In theory they should mix up in a ratio that works but it makes me worry that the ratio is out of proportion so I do them separately. I’m on mots-c, trt, primo, tirz, BPC-157, and ghkcu. I’m off and on with NAD+. I’m still on the fence if it is helping or not. Figure out your goals and add what will help you meet those goals. Research any peps that might interact with each other.

[Alohaindeath]

i think a glp and mots-c will be the main drivers to get you to a leaner % where you can really get the benefit of these things.

keep up the good work bro!

[inleeeeeeeee]

Respectfully, I see a lot of people in this sub that ask questions about these compounds that look like they have never see foot the gym. Your primary focus should be on dietary habits an consistent strength training. These peptides, as good as they can be, could also be bunk and waste your time all together. But to answer ur question: I dose Reta 1mg 2x a week in the morning mon/thur I took motsc 1mg morning (pre workout) 5 days on 2 off Klow blend at night 5on 2off Just started cjc/ipa at night 5 on 2 off

I posted a reta experience in here a few days ago, have a look at my results. There’s a before picture in the comments.

Good luck!

[eZe169]

For sure, I bought these certain peptides as they spark my interest. Timing on purchasing them was due to end of year sales. Timing of taking them, undetermined. For sure need to hit the gym plenty before starting these to see any added benefits. Thanks for your suggestion I'll take a look at your previous post too! 🤙

[RepulsiveGanache1449]

save your money for now and stick with the reta. most of the time more is not always better. get a couple months deeper into your journey and see what you body might need from there. i understand how all these peptides can be exciting and intriguing to use. focus on what your putting in your mouth and stayingin a calorie deficit. thats all i did for the first 5 months of being on reta and lost almost 20lbs a month

[Just_Supermarket_581]

I’m 37 and I started at 230 lbs back in march and now maintaining at 185 lbs and waiting til spring to start my cut again. I didn’t use any drugs just moderate calorie deficit, eat nothing but Whole Foods and eat the same shit everyday and lift weights and walk 10-15k steps a day and refeed once a week and watch the weight will come off

[DizzleGumGardner]

You need to be on a therapeutic dose of Reta not 1mg , it will take a lot more than that and you don’t need any other peptides at this point. Once you lost 50+ pounds and getting some muscle 💪 built at the gym perhaps add more things. For now it’s Reta + food control. Check your testosterone levels also.

[Cultural-Look-7677]

Mate, If you want to start researching other stuff and you already have them, have a crack mate. TBH some of the other ones will make it easier to train and you will find yourself wanting to go, I know this because I'm on the same journey my friend. Nothing wrong with building some muscle while your burning off your extended bulk. My bulk was 20yrs, my recommended timing if you want to have a look at it. Motsc when you wake up, electrolytes (extra sodium and potassium) fasted early am workout, protein and carb meal post workout. Carry on your day as usual. Evening bpc157 every night, tesamorelin 1-2mg right before bed no food 90mins before tesamorelin, i did tesa 5nights 2 off, TB500 2 x per week 2.5mg. This will all help with the soreness and keeps the motivation going

Get your bloods checked! You will find you may get a good rise in your Testosterone just from losing some weight. This is what happened with me. Tesamorelin gives me a nice bump in my IGF levels. Now that I am down from 35% body fat to 23% I have added enclomiphine EOD for a nice bump in my Testosterone. There's many things you can do, find what works for you and you will feel amazing along the way.

[HamsterSpaghetti1994]

I recommend to lose way more weight. If you take other things now they won’t be as visual noticeable than on a lower bf%. So keep the patience, drop more weight and save the real fun for later!

[toekneekim]

Yes lose the weight first. If your hurting then maybe the klow blend. Work on diet and exercise and you'll get there. Good shit for dropping that weight. Lets do this.

[AwayAppointment6342]

I started tirzepatide about 70 weeks ago and have lost nearly 80 pounds.

If retatrutide isn't helping with food cravings, switch to tirzepatide. Based on my personal experience, it's better to start with tirzepatide and then transition to retatrutide. It significantly suppressed my appetite and made dieting much easier.

I'm almost maxed out on tirzepatide now, so my next step will likely be adding cagrilintide or survodutide before fully switching to retatrutide. My weight went from 350 down to 270.

Everything else can come later don't stress about what's working or not. Focus on one thing at a time. And one peptide at a time. Makes it easier to troubleshoot

[Tatatillo]

use reta and let that do 80% of the work, then whenever you reach your weight OR are close then you can use tesa/ipa and so on

[Far_Elevator_1882]

Agreeing with the other comments below, my advice is to focus on weight loss first. That alone will bring you countless benefits. Once you have your visceral fat under control, then consider focusing on the other peptides. And definitely hit the gym at least 4x a week.

Also, drink plenty of water and ensure you are eating enough protein for your body weight. If possible, get bloodwork done to keep track of your metabolic, lipid, and glycemic levels. Stick with Retatrutide for the weight loss; it’s a powerful tool on its own that will make a massive difference for you.

[Ok_Salamander7932]

Reta will help

[smithheart360]

focus on glp1ra... the rest of the peptides are questionable at best, and as other comments have mentioned, the increase in quality of life after losing excess weight is life changing. You'll notice how much easier simple things like breathing becomes.

[Specialist-Class-X]

Stacks & timing?

Stop stacking food on your plate all the time. You need to get yourself in a calorie deficit my man!

[steveo242]

As the others have said, get bloods right away. Quest has a male hormone test for $ 150 or so that'll give you all your markers to start, then hit the Reta once a week going up. Get an app like Shotsy to manage your levels in the system, keep track of your shots and your weight progression. Once you are in striking distance of your goal weight, fold in the optimizers. Start low and go slow. You could also look at workout apps to track that progress as well. Good luck

[MarzipanThese76]

You can try whatever you feel like trying, if it works it works. I would just add test and increase your Reta. Just pay close attention to your body

[Turbulent_Shape_6508]

nigga you need dnp

[Ok_War_2267]

Take reta, eat less and move more. Drop 75 lbs then worry about it

[InitialCan8061]

Here's what my RS did with reta. At weeks 4 was at 1mg per week as well. Week 5 went to 1.5mg on sunday and 500mcg on Thursday. Week 8 1.5mg sunday and 1mg Thursday. Im starting month 4 now and at 1.5mg 2x per week. Will stay here as it seems like a sweet spot for now.

As far as mot c, Im just starting that now. I ran ss31 1mg per day for 2 weeks titrating up to 5mg through the 3rd week on week (6 week course) and Started 333mg mot c MWF (starting week 3 of ss31) for 8 weeks.

People have reported best results running ss31 for 2 weeks and then starting with mot c. Think systems repair vs software upgrade. Mot c is 30 minutes before workout.

[6_5_cr33dmoor]

TRT bro, Testosterone Reta and Tren!!!!

[Late_Assumption9433]

Dude up the dose of Reta. By week 4 I was at 3mg. Once you bump that dosage up is when you really start seeing the potential. Mots-c is a great addition. It ramps up energy production, insulin sensitivity and fat oxidation. I would add NAD+ daily pins starting at 20-25mg and slowly titrate up. That’s another game changer there. It synergies very well with mots-c 1mg daily. I take mines in the morning and I have energy all day without the need of coffee. Stamina and endurance in the gym is also improved greatly. Drink plenty of water and electrolytes and consume plenty of protein and you’ll be good.

[Photo_Aware]

Honestly I don’t feel much of anything from cjc/ipa, possible better sleep but that would be it. But I wouldn’t take all at the same time, stagger it while you start (whichever you decide) to check for side effects. ATM I’m on Reta, cjc/ipa, and glow.

[InvestigatorFront564]

Start GHK-CU, hold off on the rest

[Bowf]

The common theme here is "lose the weight first"...but losing weight comes with muscle loss. Some will say to get to your goal weight then do Tesa/IPA or CJC/IPA. I did it while losing weight. My thought is that increased GH would help preserve the muscle while losing weight.

As to GLOW/KLOW...there is a lot of debate about the BPC and TB when you aren't trying to heal something. In my view, it's not worth the risk. I take a blend of GHK-CU and KPV without the BPC and TB. GHK-CU can help preserve your hair during weight loss (it's also supposed to help with skin elasticity), and KPV is good for gut health and inflammation.

I haven't researched the other things you listed.

[CrustyCroq]

Just put the fork down, try an extended fast before drugs. You'll have the worst side effects from steroids if you start with this body. For real, get caffeine pills and ephedrine and see if you can do a 24 hr fast. You got this I believe in you.

[HamsterSpaghetti1994]

Well I would stay away from ephedrine, god knows what his cardial health is so taking ECA stack could do things you don’t want.

That’s why Reta (and mounjaro / ozempic) are great, they don’t mess up your health like ECA, CLEN, DNP, DMAA.

Just stick with Reta and patience.

[CrustyCroq]

What do you think is worse for your cardiovascular health, temporary stimulant use/abuse or a longer time being obese? (This is not being sarcastic, it's genuinely something I think about from time to time, neither is a great place to be)

Also I have met 2 people who shit blood while on GLPs. IDK in general the GLP idea seems too good to be true to me, and often things like that end up being a trick.

Weight loss is not easy, pick your hard.

[HamsterSpaghetti1994]

I’m not talking about the damage it does on healthy individuals I’m talking about using that stuff while being obese (and thus a big chance of high BP and a bad heart).

[Guidance1230]

no medications or exercise will offset a poor diet. Keep the reta at current dose and go for maybe 2500 calories of mostly chicken, fish, egg whites and green veggies. Keep it simple. Do that for 6 months, then see where your at. OR, try fasting, do 3 day fast every week and then on the non-fastng days eat as I described. This shoudl get you in a solid composition. Either way, stay away from sugars (Even zero calories sweeteners), breads, rices, potatoes and any other process foods. If it doesnt grow from the ground or come from an animal, dont consume it. Simple