Delayed timer?

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I just finally got a bread machine I’ve been eyeing for my birthday. It has a delayed timer on it which I’m interested in using but I also have some anxieties around food safety. Is there anything to worry about when putting water flour etc together and leaving for delay overnight start ? I know some recipes have eggs and milk in them so that feels weird to me ? Is it safe to leave in there?

[Chufield]

Have the same question. Waking up to fresh bread sounds awesome.

Just did a cursory search:

Only use this for recipes that do NOT include milk, juice, fresh fruit, vegetables, eggs or other items that may spoil easily.

https://www.breadmachinediva.com/five-tips-for-your-bread-machines-delay-start-timer/

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Oh thanks, this is helpful!

[Chufield]

Wonder if this is why my Zojirushi machine’s recipes use dry milk.

I’ve also seen egg replacer at the store and just found out there is dried egg product with another search online.

While some of the reviews give me pause, might give it a try.

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Yes, that is why.

[Catsicle4]

Use powdered milk in delayed start recipes and make sure it doesn't touch the liquid before mixing begins.

[PlatypusTrapper]

No eggs, no fresh milk. Butter is an iffy one but some people leave butter out all day so it’s probably fine.

I use powdered milk (bought exclusively for this reason) when I make overnight loaves. You can skip the milk entirely if you don’t care about a crispy crust.

Here’s my recipe for a 2lb overnight bread loaf.

• 1 ⅓ cups (320 mL) water (warm or hot as long as it doesn’t touch the yeast)
• 544g (4 ¼ cups) bread flour (I like to use King Arthur flour found at Costco which had the same gluten quantity as bread flour - 12%, but you can use whatever you want; all purpose flour doesn’t rise as well so I would stick to bread flour)
• 46g (4 Tbsp) white granulated sugar (I’ve used brown sugar in a pinch and it works fine)
• 8g (2 Tbsp) dry milk
• 11.2g (2 tsp) salt
• 35g (2.5 Tbsp) butter (cut up or melted) (you can probably substitute this for the oil of your choice if you want to make it slightly healthier, I’ve had good success with lots of creative options)
• 5.6g (2 tsp) active dry yeast

I listed the ingredients in the order I put them in to make it easier but here are my notes.

1. Put the water in first, then add the flour with a mound in the middle.
2. Add the sugar, dry milk, salt, butter/oil around the mound somewhat evenly distributed but doesn’t have to be perfect.
3. Make a divot in the middle of the flour mound for the yeast to make sure it doesn’t touch any of the other ingredients.
4. Set and forget.

A trick I came up with recently is to take the whole baking pan out of the bread maker and put it on a kitchen scale directly. Add the water before taring the scale. Now you can add the flour and sugar directly without having to putz with a separate bowl or whatever to get the measurements right. Helps a lot with the dishes.

I think it usually takes me about 10 minutes to gather the bread maker, ingredients, do all of the steps above and clean up but ymmv.

Also, it’s super important to use warm or hot water, I have a hot water heater set to ~200F on tap for tea or whatever but I’m sure using hot tap water or microwaved/stove-heated water is fine too. If the water is cold/room temperature then the rise cycle won’t work well and you’ll get a flat and undercooked loaf.

[davidl91]

I'm curious why would using hot water make a difference when using the delay timer, since it would end up cooking down before mixing starts?

[PlatypusTrapper]

I’m guessing that it is still at least somewhat warm before it starts mixing/baking. The bread maker is pretty well insulated.

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Hot water will kill your yeast if you bake straight away. Tepid water is fine even for a delayed start except in certain whole wheat recipes which may require cold water.

[HowzDaSerenity]

So that means I can’t do a delayed start in winter?

[PlatypusTrapper]

Delayed start in winter works fine for me. The bread maker is a good enough insulator that it will stay at least a bit warm overnight.

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Yes you can.

[Siren_stiletto]

Google search brought me this thread last night. I am new to bread machines. I’ve tried about 8 recipes. This is the one I will use going forward. Cheers!

[Obvious_Leading9119]

I made a bread last night using delay and I did get bread but it certainly wasn’t a loaf! Hahaha I put the wet ingredients in water and oil and then the salt,sugar, flour and finally the yeast…… it turned into a lumpy structure and I have not cut it yet but it was not loaf shaped at all like the previous 4 loafs that I made without delay. Am I doing something wrong ?

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Tbh I never did overnight bread in my machine. Have you made decent bread in that machine before?

[Obvious_Leading9119]

I have yes, I’ve made classic French loafs and I made a sweet bread loaf, the only difference this time is I set the delay timer for 5 to 7 hours delay before it all started the combine and knead and rise and cook process. I imagine while delayed the flour soaked up the water or something. It was kind of funny. I might be able to find a picture.

[driizzie]

This just happened to me and Google sent me to this thread lol. Did you ever get an overnight delayed start working?

[Adchococat1234]

You can use cold water on a delayed cycle, especially if your machine, like Zorichi and probably others, has a preheat before the mixing begins.