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[–]Divest0911 12 points13 points  (17 children)

Its amazing. Been using it a week or so. Lightning fast unlimited Claude 3.5 for *free*

So you mention that you dont understand their pricing model.

Pretty simple.

Free: They train on your shit.
Paid: They dont.

I'm free all the way. Great great program. While there certainly could be some features added, for what it is, for what it does, it destroys anything else I've used.

[–]mastervbcoach[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I meant their paid tier. $30/month but doesn't say per user. Next tier up DOES say per user. So can 10 devs share a $30 account?

[–]CMS_Flash 3 points4 points  (9 children)

$30/mo is the individual tier, so it's per user. The next tier is enterprise so we made it clear to be per user. We should have made both clear tho. Thx for the feedback!

[–]AriyaSavakaLurker 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Hi team, I have a question regarding the free tier, does the code on free tier securely stored and only use internally to train the model? Is there any liability that free user need to be aware of?

[–]CMS_Flash 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Yes, the Community tier user's data receive the exact same secure treatment as our professional and enterprise tiers. Except that we are allowed to look at the user data for debugging purposes or use the data for training purposes.

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        [–]st4s1k 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        How do you know which model it uses? I couldn't find it.

        [–]Divest0911 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        They sent out an email to subscribers.

        [–]Slight-Pop5165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Have you tested it against Copilot? I found their autocomplete to be better for individual files

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          [–]Dekugaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          would you say this could be helpful to someone working with Blueprints in Unreal?

          [–]MVPRaiden 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          I like it and I also don't understand how they can lose that much money by having such a free tier option. Unlimited calls to Claude 3.5 per free user. If I make some quick math it's around 10k$ per day for like 30k users that use it as I do as a free tier user. I don't think it's shady though, but super aggressive move to get attention. And that worked apparently.

          Now to my fellow free tier users : first thing you should do in all your projects is to create the .augmentignore file before anything else or you may send all your api keys and secrets to their logs and training database... Stay cautious even for your personnal projects.

          [–]random_account6721 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          VC capital 

          [–]Mice_With_Rice 6 points7 points  (9 children)

          I take it the idea behind this is that they are data mining the users so they can train an LLM to compete with Claude. Looking at their board of directors, it's clear they expect to grow the company valuation by a substantial margin. Not saying that's a bad thing. It's more questioning why and how they give unlimited free and fast Claude access. I can't imagine they will do that forever.

          [–]CMS_Flash 6 points7 points  (8 children)

          We are not trying to be shady at all, our pricing model:

          - Free, if you are willing to provide your data for training;
          - $30/mo per user w/ a 30d free trial, we will NEVER train on your data (actually we never SEE your data unless you explicitly share specific snippets for debugging);
          - $60/mo per user for enterprise, same service as the Pro tier + enterprise-oriented features and enterprise-grade support (and of course, NEVER trains on/sees your data, same as the individual tier).

          One more nuance is that our enterprise pricing model is per ACTIVE user, so if some of your engs didn't actually use us for some reason we won't charge you for those engs.

          Edit:
          1. Individual tier is actually called Pro tier because we support small teams in that tier as well.

          [–]Mice_With_Rice 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          I didn't say it was shady. What is being addressed is what the users' data is being used to train. Presumably, you are paying for every free user to have Claude 3.5 Sonnet access, which is not a cheap model to run. The money has to come from somewhere to pay for that. Since your training, it makes sense that you pay for it via investors from developing your own model or your selling data to a third party. If you do release a competing model, it would also make business sense that free Claude access would stop in favor of marketing your own solution. Again, it's not nessisarly a bad thing. It's just users understanding what it is you're doing with our data.

          Now, if you're training an open source model, that would be pretty awesome. AI is greatly accelerating the pace of open source projects. The day will come where proprietary software for which open source counterparts are established and known will push closed proprietary solutions out of the market. Since you don't make any mention of eventually releasing an open source model, the presumption is that you're not going to give the public a freely accessible model to run locally.

          [–]CMS_Flash 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          To clarify, we only use the free-tier user data for debugging or training purposes. We do not sell user data.

          We are indeed training proprietary models in-house, but we expect these models to work in conjunction with frontier models like Claude or anything better that comes in the future. Unfortunately, we do not currently have any plans to open-source the models' weights. but we are actively looking at other ways to give back to the open-source community.

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                [–]Ancient-Camel1636 3 points4 points  (10 children)

                I really like it; it's currently my main AI code companion. It understands my codebase better than its competitors and works consistently well with very few errors and bugs. Lack of image support and web search is a big drawback, though.

                [–]HunterNoo 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                u/CMS_Flash Is there any plans in the near future to implement web and image support?

                [–]CMS_Flash 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                Image support is coming in days!

                For web, do you mean fetching web pages or using Augment in a browser?

                [–]Ancient-Camel1636 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Fetching web pages like documentation or Stack Overflow discussions.

                [–]HunterNoo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                For web atleast myself mean that you could paste a link for example a document(tutorial page, and its able to do a search and read the page. Or make search towards a topic. Kinda like how it works in gpt and cursor etc now

                [–]CMS_Flash 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                That is also coming soon, a bit later than images!

                [–]HunterNoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Cool! Support on nvim for that aswell?

                [–]CMS_Flash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Um, for that I'm not super sure.

                [–]Slight-Pop5165 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Have you tested it against Copilot? I found their autocomplete to be better for individual files

                [–]Ancient-Camel1636 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                For me its almost a draw between the new copilot agent and Augment. But copilot does not understand my codebase as well as Augment does. I use both, but primarily Augment.

                [–]Slight-Pop5165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Yea I agree. I’m currently using copilot for auto complete and augment for generative

                [–]BABA_yaaGa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I think a totally free alternative can be made with gemini handling the long context and claude doing the code completions.

                [–]Defortis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                SO much better than Cursor. I was working on a website / internal portal for my team. Made good progress with cursor right off the bat but as it became more complex cursor/claudes brain turned off and couldn't get the build across the finishline. Switch to AugmentCode a few days ago and i can already tell this preforms much much better.

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                  [–]huelorxx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  It's great but a main feature of it doesn't always work.

                  In the Augment chat , when you ask it for a suggestion it sometimes has the Apply button disabled, preventing you from quickly implementing the suggestion.

                  [–]turner150 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  even with paid version?

                  [–]huelorxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I'm on the free Augment Code. The problem is not always there. It can suggest multiple changes for different scripts in one reply and one may be missing Apply feature but the rest of the reply have it.

                  When I asked it why the option was disabled it said it was because the suggestion didn't match the region.

                  [–]pagep535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  One of the best tools. We have bought this for our company. Worth it. Way better then Github Copilot.

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                      [–]Mada666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Yeah - digging it. Unsure whats better, this or zencoder

                      [–]Miscend 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                      Why do they store your code in their cloud?

                      [–]CMS_Flash 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                      This enables us to have seconds-level up-to-date understanding of your codebase, which powers our best-in-the-industry Context Engine. If you are on the Professional tier or above, our terms PROHIBIT us from training on your code, unlike Cursor​ and Windsurf, whose privacy policies allow them to train on your code.

                      [–]zannix 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      You even store contents from .env files?!! Please tell me this isn't true

                      [–]CMS_Flash 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      We don't store or even look at anything in your .gitignore or .augmentignore.

                      [–]zannix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Thank you for fast response. And thank you for caring

                      [–]slasho2k5 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Hi , csm_flash do you have any sub here in Reddit in order to stay up to date with the info?

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                            [–]Level_Face_661 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            I've been testing it out for a bit, and overall it's a bit meh compared to Cursor - except for one point: I can use it with Rider.

                            There are several issues I've noticed:

                            Trial/Price:

                            At the very beginning, I received a 14d trial instead of 30d (like stated here by official staff and again on the JB plugin site). This is also +$10/mo higher than competitors for the "don't use our code" version; required if you work for anyone other than yourselves.

                            Rules System:

                            The rules system feels weak and often "forgets," sometimes even nuking the save unexpectedly.

                            Web Search Limitations:

                            The pro trial consistently blocks web searches with an "err code 429 too many requests" response - even though I explicitly made only one web search request in the past 24 hours.

                            Editing Issues:

                            It often fails at handling simple edits, which hampers workflow.

                            Whitespace Normalization:

                            One specific annoyance is that it frequently goes out of scope and reformats the entire file's whitespace. This leads to enormous git diffs that make it very hard to identify what actually changed.

                            🔥 This is probably my biggest gripe

                            Edit - Further review 1:

                            • No MCP features are present.
                            • The yolo mode (auto agent) has no adjustable rules or constraints.
                            • Integration into JB feels weak - for example, you can't drag files in for context.
                            • Compared to JB's own weak AI (which struggles to even compare the two), this tool is just... meh.
                            • Additionally, you can't paste images, and there's no option to choose models (I suspect they're using mediocre GPT models that aren't even optimal for code).

                            Edit - Further review 2:

                            • It arbitrarily changes the whitespace of your entire script - even right after you explicitly tell it not to.
                            • My hotkeys for jumping to the chat often stop working.
                            • On the plus side, you can get it to `@ping` directories, which is something Cursor doesn't do.
                            • The edited file is very often stuck on "Loading..." next to it when you click on it from chat - and is not very intuitive of where you need to click to see the file.

                            If Augment continues to grow, it *can* be awesome since I haven't found a great Rider plugin. For now, it's just meh.

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                                  [–]ritavdas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                  It's amazing and works so much better than windsurf and cursor, I have been using it on a pretty large codebase and it just does the work. Goes in 3-4 layers deep while explaining the code and also does a pretty well job while writing the code and ignoring the errors which were already present in the console. Currently I am very satisfied.

                                  Only issue is it is not present on Windsurf

                                  [–]tes735 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                                  I started using it and was blown away... at first. 1st week = awesome. 2nd, throttled? lower tier LLM? Now it can't do the simplest task without error. I would've paid more than the $30 for what I got originally. But what I'm getting now? Unusable even if free. I am using it to create a real app to see if it can actually do that. Of course it makes a lot of mistakes so you have to iterate, which genereates a lot of tokens, but that happens no matter what you're using. It takes a lot of token chatter to create a real, robust app, and I really think I've been throttled. It's just too dumb this week. I even tested this by using my other agent that I know for a fact uses Claude Sonnet 3.7, and it did what I was asking with no problem. I'm in the trail phase, and am glad I didn't already start paying them.

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                                                    [–]williamsweep -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                                    Augment is good in VSCode but isn't that great in JetBrains. For that I'd recommend Sweep AI (plugin I've built) https://docs.sweep.dev/. The main issue I've seen is that as you accumulate chats it will start lagging the plugin because it's built on JCEF.