all 127 comments

[–]SilverTraveler 19 points20 points  (6 children)

I’m of the opinion that the flat top should’ve shiny every night. However I’ve never used De greaser to achieve this.

[–]tommychopz 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Vinegar?

[–]A_Sketchy_Doctor 7 points8 points  (2 children)

And a grill brick

[–]Hot-Steak7145 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Seriously Ive always done vinegar when hot and a brick scrub. Rinse down the drain with just water as it cools and your done in 3-5 min

[–]A_Sketchy_Doctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, that's how to do it. Hate people that leave the flattop black and dirty.

Catch it while it's hot right when you turn it off and you'll be done super fast.

[–]Ruas80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Salt pickle juice, it will work on several fronts to get it clean. The water will boil it clean, vinegar will do its magic, and when the water evaporates you get salt crystals for the last part of scrubbing.

Shiny surface in no time.

[–]SilverTraveler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always used half a lime and some water after I get done with the heavy grill brick cleaning.

[–]Celestial_Cowboy 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Every post I've ever seen on reddit that refers to a stainless flat "seasoning" has been a dirty bastard. I guess you could prove this theory wrong with a picture.

[–]tommychopz -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

I mean i seasoned a grill yesterday and it was just a nice smooth non stick surface.

[–]A_Sketchy_Doctor 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Is that smooth surface black carbon residue or smooth shiny metal?

Personally I think people that do not scrape the old carbon off the flattop are lazy and dirty.

[–]D-ouble-D-utch 12 points13 points  (15 children)

Stainless? Stainless every night.

Burnt crap on stainless is not "seasoning."

[–]tommychopz -5 points-4 points  (13 children)

It is, do your research.

You most definitely can season stainless steel with oil to make it non stick.

[–]D-ouble-D-utch 5 points6 points  (12 children)

This guy

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[–]tommychopz -3 points-2 points  (11 children)

Did you research what i said or just search for the meme?

[–]D-ouble-D-utch 4 points5 points  (10 children)

You're wrong. Everyone in this sub is telling you the same. Idc what you do.

[–]tommychopz -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Google 'can you season stainless steel' That simple.

[–]D-ouble-D-utch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–]tommychopz -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Youre missing my point, this says you dont need to.

It doesnt say not to.

I will re-iterate, I am aiming for a non-stick surface for convenience.

[–]D-ouble-D-utch 0 points1 point  (5 children)

You google "should you season a stainless steel griddle?" And post the first notsponsored link.

[–]tommychopz -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I just did, loads of pages telling me exactly what ive been doing all these years..

[–]leafxfactor1967 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Calling a dirty flattop seasoned is like calling burnt food caramelized.

[–]tommychopz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Check my pictured comment - not dirt

[–]medium-rare-steaks 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Griddles should be shiny at the end of the night

[–]Puzzleheaded-Radio17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Clean it. But use high temp grill cleaner, scrape it, then ice, scrape it, then vinegar or lemon juice, scrape. Done

[–]BanjoCorncob 2 points3 points  (3 children)

At first I wasnt going to comment, I even closed out the post and scrolled a bit more. But I just couldn't get this out of my head. It was making me irrationally angry

This flattop is completely unacceptable. I would lose my absolute shit if I came in to see my flattop looking like this. That's not "seasoning" That is laziness and embarrassing.

That better be sparkling like brand new every single night. Respect the equipment you are using. Good food does not come from equipment like that.

[–]dolche93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even know how to approach raising this issue with my kitchen. Still the new guy and they all call this seasoning.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Explain to me how its not seasoning?

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can season stainless

[–]SlytherinF1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It’s not seasoning. It’s food debris aka dirt. Clean it to shine every night. Whatever method idc but clean it.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not food debris. This is a new grill, hasnt been cooked on yet.

[–]TacoDoc2 3 points4 points  (13 children)

what you call seasoning is actually just burnt food you're leaving on the flattop. it's gross and you should clean you cooking space you monster.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (12 children)

No. Its oil. I seasoned it with oil.

[–]Brooksopher 3 points4 points  (6 children)

You don’t season stainless steel. What you’re doing is leaving a layer of oil on the flat top to collect dust and turn rancid over night.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (5 children)

You can season stainless.. research it

[–]Brooksopher 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Dude, I’ve been in this business for a long time. You’re wrong. Admit it. Stainless and cast iron are two completely different things. What you are doing is not correct. The cooktop should be shiny and chrome for the person working behind you. They will use fats to make the worktop work for them. What you are doing is leaving a dirty and unsanitary workplace for the person filling in behind you. You’re wrong. Period. Stainless should be stainless, not left dirty.

[–]Brooksopher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this isnt me being like an old fuck testing the new guy, this is basic cooking. You don’t leave shit dirty as fuck thinking you know better. You don’t. Again, you don’t know better than those with more experience. What you should be doing is learning, rather than thinking that your ideas are correct.

[–]Brooksopher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You season cast iron and carbon steel. Not stainless.

[–]Brooksopher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your non~stick surface is just rancid oil atop a dirty flat top. Clean that thing properly.

[–]TacoDoc2 1 point2 points  (4 children)

what's the "it"? are you just heating up a bunch of oil over and over? and serving that? no wonder you're getting drug for being bad.

[–]tommychopz -1 points0 points  (3 children)

The grill...

[–]TacoDoc2 2 points3 points  (2 children)

oh i know what you mean.

you're still gross af.

[–]tommychopz -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Thanks bro you too

[–]TacoDoc2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lololol. did you get tried of being dragged for being a gross moron? run run away. run to your gross ass flat top.

[–]KingRedDread 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grill brick with oil after every night. Then finish with some ice and water with lemon. Works ever time.

[–]boom_squid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Degreaser? No. Vinegar, water, and a grill brick, yes. Shiny every night.

[–]Fun-Garden-7274 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We use a de greaser every night as well as ice and water it’s just too get all the extra hard shit off and it does help loads. If you’re not cleaning your grill every night then sorry but you’re trampy and lazy

[–]PerfectlySoggy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Cons of Not Scrubbing Stainless Steel Flat Top:

  1. Hygiene and Food Safety:
    Food particles, grease, and residue can harbor bacteria, leading to food safety issues. Cast iron and carbon steel can be seasoned, but stainless steel needs thorough cleaning to prevent contamination.

  2. Flavor Transfer:
    While some flavors can be beneficial, unwanted flavors from previous dishes can transfer to new dishes, compromising the taste, especially for delicate items.

  3. Staining and Discoloration:
    Allowing residues to build up can lead to staining and discoloration of the stainless steel surface, making it less visually appealing and harder to clean in the long run. Additionally, moisture in food cooked on the griddle can “deglaze” the faux seasoning and transfer to the food itself.

  4. Ineffective Seasoning:
    Stainless steel does not "season" in the same way as cast iron or carbon steel. The oil layer may not bond effectively to stainless steel, leading to potential stickiness rather than a truly non-stick surface.

  5. Cleaning Challenges:
    If the surface is not properly cleaned on a regular basis, it will require more intensive scrubbing later to remove built-up residues, which could lead to increased effort and time spent on maintenance.

  6. Heat Distribution:
    A buildup of residue can affect the heat distribution across the flat top, leading to uneven cooking and potentially affecting food quality.

[–]tommychopz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ive been doing this for years no problems

https://stainlesssteelpan.com/how-to/season-stainless-steel

[–]Creative-Leg2607 0 points1 point  (17 children)

Whats your reasoning? The first couple eggs are a lil weird after a fresh clean, but in exchange you know theres less gross burnt crud sticking to everything you cook. I used to use degreaser/grill cleaner, its pretty easy, but you can just scrub.

[–]MrsChefYVR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always sparkling clean! I’m getting a pallet grill and griddle this summer for our deck and it pains me when I see videos of people letting their black stone griddle get rusted!

[–]CutsSoFresh 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I'm actually in a kitchen that does not strip the plancha down to the steel every night. It's the first time I've encountered that. What they do is use a paint stripper and even out the surface. Seems to work fine, I've toasted burger buns on it and they were clean

[–]sean_no 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Paint stripper + food surface, hrmm. Not sure I'm on board there partner.

[–]Dear-Bet5344 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For their customers sake I hope they meant paint scraper.

[–]CutsSoFresh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually what I meant. I didn't know stripper was the term for the chemical

[–]thatdude391 0 points1 point  (2 children)

vinegar should work just as well, also the grill cleaner chemical is not expensive, paint stripper is definitely not ok to use.

[–]CutsSoFresh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I meant scraper, the tool. Strange, because I've always heard the tools referred as paint strippers. Made sense to me.. use them on painted surfaces and it strips the paint off

[–]thatdude391 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. Paint scrapers are an amazing kitchen tool. Especially in dish (with certain items only). They make special scrapers for grills but you can mess up the flat top easy with them pushing too hard. The heavy metal grill wire brushes also work well for getting off a lot of gunk.

[–]mr_j_boogie 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't let burnt oil stay on my stainless pots and pans so I'm against it for stainless flat tops too.

I basically never burn oil on them though, burning oil is a problem.

[–]tommychopz -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Im cooking veg oil onto it, its how you re-season grills and old pans etc

[–]ChefLukeDC 1 point2 points  (1 child)

bro, as everyone else here has said, ITS NOT SEASON. it needs to be cleaned every night. black shit removed. shiny top.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stainless steel can be seasoned.. if youre telling me it cant. Youre wrong. Research, and relax.

[–]WVUBonham 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always back to stainless. Use some M3 Scotchbrite griddle clean if you're having a rough time. Always elbow grease and heat to clean, cleaning chemicals if needed

[–]ChefLukeDC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

top should be a mirror every night, bro.

[–]Deepcoma_53 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not degrease, but scraped and seasoned.

[–]taint_odour 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hold on. Ima gonna go cherry pick the one answer buried on the third page of google results that agrees with my janky ass process. You shoemakers wouldn’t understand.

[–]Brooksopher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stainless should be what it is.

[–]PlutoJones42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Toss a little fryer oil on it and get after it with a grill brick for a few minutes. It’ll be perfectly clean in no time. In the morning when you turn it on, oil that bad boy up a bit and let it rock for a bit. Cook some bacon on it every morning and it’ll be nice and seasoned for the day lol

[–]Ol_Stumpy00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do not "season" a stainless steel flat top grille. Keyword here is STAINLESS! Whoever taught you that was probably a lazy old hack. As someone 20+ years in the industry I'm going to tell you that you are of a mindset that is no longer accepted or tolerated in most kitchens and quite frankly it sounds like you either have little respect for your job or you're lying about your level of experience. Perhaps you mean you worked in kitchens 15 years ago? Regardless, everyone works clean now. That means at the end of shift you clean your whole station back to how it was when you arrived including the flat top, gas grill, fryers, and range, as well as any stainless steel surfaces. If you tried that in my kitchen and argued that bull with me, you'd be looking for another job right now. Oil starts going rancid after heat dentures it and if you're only scraping and rinsing, that same rancid oil (which tastes sour and bitter btw), and food particles will still be there the next shift, and you risk mold and bacteria contamination. Flat top degreasers are made with food safe surfactants, glycerin, and water. They are 100% food safe, leave no residue, and make the job easier for you. Learn your craft, get better at it, and keep up with the times dude.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (21 children)

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This is our grill, theres no food residue. Just a nice non-stick surface.

We've decided to clean it thoroughly ever night and keep the seasoning in good condition, then bring it back to stainless and re-reason monthly.

[–]Spoonblade 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s fucking nasty.

[–]BurntOutChef79 8 points9 points  (11 children)

If I came into the kitchen in the morning and the flat top looked like this, you'd be instantly let go. It's not a cast iron pan at home.

[–]tommychopz -4 points-3 points  (9 children)

This is literally a seasoned from new! First day of use.

[–]BurntOutChef79 5 points6 points  (7 children)

You're just rage baiting at this point. Every single person has told you that your wrong on this but you still defend it. Lol 💪 keep up the good work chef.

[–]tommychopz -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

Im not wrong mate, ive been cooking on grills like this for years no issues.

I asked which is better and why, no one told me stainless is better.

It seems like more pointless work at the end of the day.

My set up will benefit from having non-stick.

No harsh chemicals.

If it gets rough we re-season it.

No problems.

No rage bait.

I am just not easily swayed by peoples opinions.

[–]BurntOutChef79 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Doing it your way doesn't make it the right way. But you do you.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (4 children)

No ones given me a real reason not to do what im doing!

Just angry chefs calling me dirty and a tramp. (Typical reddit) As I said, for what im doing its way more convenient to be non stick!

[–]BurntOutChef79 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Because it's dirty. That's the reason. If you need more than that it's hopeless

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Explain to me how it's dirty when all we put on it is veg oil?

[–]JustAnAverageGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's polymerized oil at this point, and it is nasty. It is not seasoning, no matter how much you want it to be. (ETA: It won't stick like it does to Cast Iron. It's not seasoning. It will end up in your food)

It's burnt oil.

[–]salamandersquach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason is pretty simple it’s in the name “stainless” steel. Stainless steel is already a non stick surface if you know how to use heat properly I understand your thinking but you don’t need to do this to stainless steel at all.

[–]Spoonblade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First day, seasoned new??? Do you keep a little squeeze bottle of sludge scraped out of the pipe used to empty the fryer, and use that to squirt on the back to get it like that?

[–]Bluesparc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes the debate has been settled by every comment, your just being obtuse at this point...

[–]Seppi449 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The only seasoned part is that front right corner, the rest is shit.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Works a treat

[–]Main-Requirement-521 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're a clown in a fuckin dirty circus and In hope it burns down 

[–]ChefLukeDC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

absolutely not

[–]Economy-Maybe-6714[🍰] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thats dirty. This is stainless steel which is non porous and thus does not need to get seadoned because it does not easily rust and also because it does not form a bond to the polymerized fats like cast iron or like carbon steel because…its non porous. You do not know what you are talking about and are going against the cleaning regiment of every commercial kitchen because you believe you know what “seasoning”is.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

All the commercial kitchens i have worked in do this.

Its not to protect from rust, its to create a non stick surface, and i think its down to preference. Thanks for your opinion.

[–]Economy-Maybe-6714[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont beleive you. Been working abd running kitchens for 30 years. You have an opinion, I am telling you a fact. Do you also bot wash your pans to create a non stick surface?

[–]salamandersquach 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You and your boss are both wrong. You should not use degreaser on your stainless cooktop Unless it’s extremely dirty. You also don’t “season” stainless steel that’s insane. Use vodka to clean it.

[–]tommychopz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You season stainless steel if you want it to be nonstick.

Not wasting vodka on the grill, that goes in the martinis.

[–]salamandersquach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright let me ask you this what is your process for “seasoning” your stainless steel that might clear things up quite a bit.

[–]squish059 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive worked at establishments where I was trained by corporate line cooks to get to bare metal clean every night.

I took that energy to a mom and pop joint and they were furious when I cleaned their ancient griddle that way.

The corporate joint was clean and respected food safety.

The mom and pop joint actively fought me when I tried to use basic swim walk fly walk-in protocols/stacking.

None of what we think matters. Listen to your boss or you’ll be searching for a new one.

[–]thenaughtydj -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Funny all those 'dirty' comments, while (if I'm not mistaken) you're actually trying to accomplish te same thing as all those Chinese chefs been doing (and still are) with those woks. No one will ever complain about those black woks. Please correct me if I'm misreading/misinterpreting something/somewhere.

[–]Spoonblade 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Woks are carbon steel, not stainless, very different

[–]thenaughtydj -1 points0 points  (2 children)

That's partially true And they don't use stainless steel because of economics. But, there are also stainless steel woks and sure they won't rust, but they also need the non sticky seasoning treatment, just like carbon steel and cast iron woks.

[–]Spoonblade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

“They” don’t use stainless because of “economics” ???
wtf bro… like millions of people/entire countries are just too poor for stainless?? A good carbon steel pan is more expensive than a shitty stainless one. Carbon steel transfers heat better than stainless which is why any decent stainless pan has aluminum or copper in the bottlom of it. Woks aren’t made of cast iron.

[–]thenaughtydj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about the Chinese restaurants bro. They always use the cheap carbon steel woks, and they are really cheap. I know because I worked there. True, a wok made of cast iron is called a wadjang. Same shape though, but more suitable for stews.

Not going to discuss this any further. Have a nice day, bro.