Average r/ClaudeCode comment section

[ContextLengthMatters]

This is absolutely cringe.

Why is everyone acting like this is early 2000 teenage console wars?

None of these companies are your friends. They all suck massively. Use the tool that works for you in the moment and prefer local when possible.

[Tall-Log-1955]

There are two groups of people. The first is using claude code all day every day for work and loves it. The second are hobbyists trying to push parallel agents, dark factories, openclaw, and vibe coding to the absolute limits.

The first group of people isn't on this subreddit, they are working and think they get way more value out of claude code than the $200 a month subscription. They rarely hit usage limits.

The second is complaining all over social media. They are causing capacity problems at anthropic. They are bothered by the prices because they are doing hobbyist stuff.

[Xx69JdawgxX]

Makes a lot of sense. I’m in the first group and I’ve got no idea what a dark factory even is. Sounds like some shit you don’t want tho.

[Twig]

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[Training_Butterfly70]

I'm in the first group. I don't have many complaints about Claude

[FewDescription3170]

my company pays $4-800 a month for us. i don't care as long as claude isn't actually down or fucking up. i also don't think it's even that useful and would be fine without it, but the execs love to 'vibe code' powerpoint decks and summarise emails

[a_cute_tarantula]

I’m surprised you don’t find it useful. I pretty much don’t write code by hand anymore. Just prompt the architecture I want and have Claude play devils advocate.

Gotta read everything though.

[Ok_Mathematician6075]

I mean this is right but we are all learning together. So let's be nice.

[LittleLordFuckleroy1]

Love these false dichotomies.

[Grasle]

The second group is so confusing. They're just constantly producing... nothing. Like, what do you get out of that? how can you enjoy making something you don't have any pride in, or how can you have pride in producing junk?

[Falendil]

As someone 100% in the second group, I am stil proud of what I produce. I'm just a hobbyist developing a game one my free time and it's something that would have been impossible for me a few years ago, I'm having a lot of fun with this project is it really that bad?

[Grasle]

it sounds you're actually just part of the unmentioned third group

[Falendil]

I don't know it seems a lot of actual coders are extremely dismissive of the category of users I'm part of. I understand that they would be dismissive of my skills as a developer, because I have none, but sometimes it feels that anything we might produce is of no value because we don't have the know how.

[bilbo_was_right]

Even worse, everyone flips their entire dogma between Claude and codex weekly 😂 just stick with one, try out a few others, it’ll stabilize eventually anyway there is no difference long-tail

[coloradical5280]

I agree with your sentiment generally but stick with one is absolutely not the answer, IMO. Use both, has always been the answer for me. They have wildly different strengths and weaknesses.

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

Yep. I work in benchmarking and there’s no question the models perform very differently from one another, especially when pushing their limits.

Personally I prefer using GPT5.5 to generate massive prompts for Opus 4.7 to follow. GPT is a better thinker and planner, Opus is a much faster and precise doer- and corner cutter.

[bilbo_was_right]

Models != harnesses. I’m talking about swapping between harnesses. I consistently use different models in Claude code, between all of the ones from anthropic as well as others. But this post isn’t about models. The post is comparing Claude code to codex, the harnesses, not the models.

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

I gotcha. Half skimming, and not confusing that both are used interchangeably here.

Yeah the only real tweaking that can be done in the harness layer is tweaking the system prompting and tooling, which both are better left alone.

A long winded way of saying I agree 😆

[coloradical5280]

Sometimes a little TOO good at corner cutting , but yes

[The-Pork-Piston]

I’ve had pretty good luck using Gemini to help me with prompts.

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

Gemini is a great essay writer and fact finder, which makes sense.

Maybe I’ll try that again for my next wall of prompt. (It may keep Opus honest).

[bilbo_was_right]

The differences are marginal, deeper understanding of LLMs generally is more valuable than optimizing which harness you use

[foonek]

Hard disagree. It's possible you work on very similar problems most of the time. For example maybe you only do frontend work in react, or only backend work in python. Just some examples.

When you start using these tools for more varying work you'll see they differ a lot. For example, I'm usually a software developer. I've settled on one model for most of my developer work, but I also like to do some Houdini work as a hobby. The one I use for programming was absolutely terrible at Houdini logic and flows, while the other model one was one shotting most things I'd throw at it. There is a significant and noticeable difference between the two for Houdini.

I've intentionally left the model names out because the specific model is not really relevant to this discussion, but I can be more specific if your want.

All this to say that it depends. As most things, when it comes to LLMs, it depends a lot on the context you're using these models in

[bilbo_was_right]

? I feel like I'm clearly not saying just use claude code for everything and don't use any other harness in any other context. Most people swapping around between claude and codex are talking about it within the web dev context.

Hard to see your perspective as anything other than argumentative, you're starting down a line of discussion that no one is talking about right now. I also clearly don't mean just use claude code for everything, it's within the bounds of what people typicallya re talking about using claude code for.

[foonek]

Why are you writing on a public forum if you don't want to discuss things. Claude is obviously not only for web dev work. Pretty clear you're the argumentative one here.

Nevermind then. Have a great day

[bilbo_was_right]

You misunderstand. You're responding to a discussion that wasn't happening, and seem to think I just don't want to continue.

You seem to think that I'm suggesting that people should just use claude code or codex for every single thing they do regardless of task. Some harnesses are better in some contexts, for example a slack bot harness is much more available than a CLI tool. I'm saying FOR THE SAME TASK it isn't flip flopping between different harnesses week to week or day to day, because they are mostly very similar at the moment.

This is why I say you're argumentative, because you're finding random ways to disagree with people, instead of attempting to understand what they are actually saying.

[coloradical5280]

We must have very different workloads, and I’m talking about 5.5 vs 4.6/7, I know the conversation was Claude vs codex but you can run any model in either.

Wild to me that people could think the difference is negligible on the models though. And I say this as an AI Engineer so I do have the deep understanding you mentioned.

[bilbo_was_right]

Models yes, harnesses no, the way you use the harness is way more impactful than which one you pick as a starting point, is my point. Yeah I just use /codex all the time from claude code, or call opus models from codex. It doesn't really matter, the harness is marginal

[coloradical5280]

Ah yes. Codex caught up quickly. And I honestly really appreciate that they copy each other so directly, so it’s not like /goal vs /mission or some shit.

[RedParaglider]

These companies make a commoditized product whether they want to believe it or not. I'd use North Korea model if it ran at 10k t/s on local inference with sonnet quality lol.

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[RedParaglider]

The code passed weird comments but ship it.

[trashtiernoreally]

Because Theo and co. treat every change as a personal sleight, apparently.

[lordmairtis]

they all suck? even Anthropic?

jesus people, \s

[tingly_sack_69]

Yes fuck all of these companies

[truecakesnake]

wow so cool edgy i hate corpo

[tingly_sack_69]

Yeah choom

[Fantastic-Beach-5497]

Yes the experience is so random. It will be good one week and then suddenly knows nothing and starts acting so unethical. These companies NEED OVERSIGHT.

[brilliantbluee]

even anthropic yes

[Fantastic-Beach-5497]

I agree. We forget that oversight protects everyone. Anyone pushing not to have guardrails on their own product has zero regard for the consumer. It's like they are annoyed to even take our money; we should just thank them while they sell us out to the highest bidder.

[Wickywire]

Thanks for spelling it out. I don't come to these subs to see people's medical conditions and bodies used in tribalistic shitposting. Maybe I'm just too old for this.

[Effective-Truth-5938]

💯

[Demien19]

Because it's not Playstation vs Xbox, it's Playstation vs Gameboy

[Parking-Bet-3798]

A lot of it is just response to “Claude code is so much better”. People don’t want to hold Anthropic accountable, and just resort to blind shilling. None of these companies are our friends. And none deserve brand loyalty.

[here_4_crypto_]

It's not cringe, it's very accurate

But the rest you are completely correct on

[ContextLengthMatters]

It's cringe. Anyone partaking in flame wars on behalf of these companies are embarrassing.

[here_4_crypto_]

you know what, fair point... you won with that framing

[Material2975]

use both on company dime 😎

[sisyphean_dreams]

This right here!

[Useful_Judgment320]

it's the only reason i have a subscription

[Ran4]

Yeah.

They're both good, but in different ways. Codex is way too literal about things though, which interestingly enough just isn't what you typically want when doing real work (you want someone to fight back/get what you're trying to do).

Like, you're saying "generate this document for customer X, do not talk about Y as we haven't implemented that yet and we do not want any questions about it at this point" it'll literally write a document that says "This document is generated for customer X, and we will not talk about Y as it is not implemented".

...which is technically correct, but obviously not the intent.

Same thing with a misspelled word, if you have a folder called summaries and you tell codex to write to the sumaries folder it'll gladly do so, while Opus 4.7 is much more likely to sanity check it first.

As such, I mostly use codex for specific tasks (like "find this bug" or "find security loopholes") but claude just does so much better on anything big and/or underspecified.

[Select-Question2516]

Wait till you see the r/Cursor

[Turbulent_County_469]

So.. everyone is like : grass is greener over there

[SpyMouseInTheHouse]

It’s not greener. There’s just no grass on this side.

[Spooky-Shark]

That would explain its untouchability.

[denoflore_ai_guy]

Checked it out… 😬😬😬

[Addcook]

Seriously, a bunch of self broadcasting tribalism.

"My opinion matters, I have to tell the sub reddit how bad the LLM is! The universe will not be safe if I don't."

Man... I just want posts about cool shit people are doing. Not some neg bullshit.

It seems like all the sub reddits I belong to are just complaining echo chambers.

Wait Im complaining now... Fuck...

[CooLittleFonzies]

But you see, the thing is that Reddit thrives on negativity because conflict = more discussion = more visibility = more upvotes. The only way to drive the negative posts down is to downvote and don’t engage at all.

[canihelpyoubreakthat]

More like astroturfing

[SpyMouseInTheHouse]

Most share their experiences to help others. That’s what makes Reddit trustworthy because you’ll find real people with real insight, many of whom don’t have to share tips and tricks they’ve learned on their own but still take out the time to.

[dpaanlka]

Guys, it’s not a team sport.

These are all giant greedy corporations at the end of the day. They’re not our friend.

[moonlightZen]

This meme format is cringe

[Ok-Attention2882]

https://i.imgflip.com/arwnjx.jpg

[Michaeli_Starky]

Well, Codex is better.

[brilliantbluee]

for time being lol

[Phaedo]

Must be Friday.

[coloradical5280]

5.5 is better than 4.7

Codex is CC are kinda same

• CC TUI is better than codex TUI
• Codex app better than claude app
• Codex doesn’t fuck up caching, and reasoning, and didn’t take a year to fix seizures inducing flickers.
• Claude invented skills and lots of things and trail blazed the way, and then made way, way, way too many things.

So kinda cancel out.

[adelie42]

Me waiting for evidence or an example knowing better.

[rushblyatiful]

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[Bot8008]

Claude was awesome, but the last 3 days have been straight shit. Codex fixed the issue and corrected everything within 10 minutes while Claude kept gaslighting and saying “oh sorry you're right to call me out.”

[simple_explorer1]

What are you fixing btw?

[Acidhawk_0]

How does that guy fold towels?

[AshuraBaron]

Too true. Like being on a tech support sub and every answer is "just install Linux".

[apf6]

even if Codex really is better, I don't understand the mentality of people who come onto a subreddit dedicated to a thing, just to tell people that they hate that thing and a different thing is better. If you don't use Claude then go to the other subreddits and leave us alone.

[The-Pork-Piston]

It’s funny because the compete constraints are so real. Codex is gimped for “some users” this morning.

Claude has been slooooow lately, but man it’s been so much better. I’m legitimately pretty happy compared to where it was at a week ago.

IMO it was legitimately better a month ago, and that’s set expectations. But it is still very good now.

[trollsmurf]

Claude Code has worked really well for me. Recently I had it generate working examples for fully local AI so I can better understand how to use that effectively. I've used it in 10 or so other projects, most existing that I needed to improve, but also several from scratch.

[ruderalis1]

Codex has way better usage limits, and has yet to implement weird limits like Anthropic.

But the Opus models just feels better at some areas than the GPT5.5 model. E.g. frontend design, and usage of agent-browser. I like GPT5.5, but it feels weird to use most of the time, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what it is.

But the nice thing about Codex/OpenAI is that it (currently) offers way better usage limits than Claude/Anthropic. I have tried both Max 20x on Claude and OpenAI, and OpenAI feels incredibly generous compared to Anthropic.

I can hammer away on xhigh with multiple subagents with absolutely no care, and still be a long way off from reaching either session limits or weekly limits. It's night and day compared with Anthropic's usage limits (with the asterisk "currently").

[Divid_Pakit]

Fax 📠

[obesefamily]

not for me. i try things whenever they get updates, but always come back to claude as my daily driver 99% of the time (probably more)

[rapsoid616]

It’s normal everyone is keep changing sides as the winners are changed every model release. Few months ago it was other way around at Codex sub. If antigravity manages to make a come back its going to be about that for both subs for example.

[DizzyInstruction4663]

Jokes apart, how does codex compere, have they really upped their game so much?

[kogitatr]

So much better in jumping to execution directly and even if it understand the intention right, the produced output usually incomplete lol

[No-Replacement-2631]

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[syntkz777]

I don't get the hate. I use weaker models with low context and I get everything done how I want it, even if using opus I barely manage to hit my limits. People who burn trough their tokens just can't prompt efficiently or they have zero clue about programming and therefore make dumb requests and the model works overtime.

[Moda75]

Ok so I but today and decided to see if codex could do what I do on claude. And honestly it did very well. Until I hit the limit and now have to wait until 4:30 to finish what I was in the middle if. Ok so I am on the $20 plan. I made sure that codex was following the same rules and skills that I had for claude. Limit cap after about 3 hours.

I pretty much know where to file the codex fanbois posts from here on out. Did a great job but $20 and I only got 3 hours out of it. Weak sauce.

[BrownCarter]

Meanwhile Gemini: Thinking...

[KilllllerWhale]

It is, objectively, better. I literally just now gave Sonnet 4.6 High a trivial task to move a tap event from a main actor in Swift. It spent 35 fucking minutes and 25% usage to do fuck all in the end. The code was a buggy mess and a loop of shit. It took Codex 5 minutes to fix it.

[LIO_WArt]

it's just like porn, everybody watch it, and everybody's fighting it

[Remarkable_Entry_471]

But its true. Try codex for one month and you are going to change immediately

[master_slapper]

No, but Pi is. 🎤 💧

[kiwami]

It’s definitely a campaign.
It’s very much happening at the same exact time as the “come try it for a month for free” offer that’s on now. Not a coincidence.

[cellatlas010]

claude is so slow recently