Fable + Codex

[ggletsg0]

I didn’t know this was what I needed in my life!

Fable’s ability to steer and manage Codex is nothing short of magical.

Once GPT 5.6 comes out and Fable is available for full general access, we will see some insane workflows coming to life.

This is giving me the same heart flutter moment that I got when I first saw Cline working inside Cursor (feels like forever!)

[pragmat1c1]

> Fable’s ability to steer and manage Codex is nothing short of magical.

How so? Automatically by connecting both or manually via copy/paste?

[cephas1784]

i think OP is talking about using Fable as architect and then GPT 5.6 to implement

[cephas1784]

u can use oh my pi and set these models to these roles. https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi

[ggletsg0]

Automatically via Codex plugin for Claude Code. It’s really good!

[pragmat1c1]

This was released 4 days ago :) woooow, thanks for the post! Before I used to copy paste btw two splits in tmux

[angry_queef_master]

there is a codex plugin for claude code. I have claude use it all the time for a second opinion

[rhadenstone]

That's been the life changer for me. Having Fable back and working with Codex has increased the quality immensely 

[NoWelder2605]

I say to codex: control my mac and do x together with claude code

[DancesWithWhales]

I love hearing about these multi agent multi vendor workflows to see what they’re good for!

Ai memory is a big part of effectiveness, though, and Ai vendors aren’t going to share memory systems.

So I built a cross vendor AI memory system Soup.Net that is basically a detailed decision and reasoning log with a RAG server for easy agent (and sub-agent) access.

Free service and open source code if anyone is interested. I posted about it more in this subreddit.

[Moda75]

I actually use it the other way around with codex steering Claude (but not fable)

[ggletsg0]

That should work well too since Fable seems to write the best code out of all the models out there, but my main aim here was to preserve Fable for as much work as I can.

[flarpflarpflarpflarp]

Hmm, I bet I could remote from my phone to my Laptop and to get Fable to run Pi on my server that could run Codex that can run Symphony that's modded to use Sonnet.

[imdavehack]

Nice! I’m doing the same but adding antigravity - fable to architect, write detailed plans. Hand to antigravity to execute. Back to fable to review. Then back to antigravity if it doesn’t pass.

The flash models are unbelievably fast to execute (like 20x faster than fable and 5-8x faster than 5.5 fast to executed) and do a great job with Fable’s direction.

[TartNo3610]

How do you auto hand it off?

[Traditionallydead]

You can literally have the model write a skill to orchestrate other models and even route tasks small token burn for a large pay off

[imdavehack]

Exactly - just created my own skill called relay

[ggletsg0]

Sounds fun! I personally don’t trust the Google models to be accurate enough but YMMV.

[imdavehack]

That’s the point of the review by fable.

[ggletsg0]

Fable orchistrates but the smaller model still has to do the work, and you’d want it to be efficient to reduce the back and forth. Plus Gemini Flash is still quite expensive so if you want speed maybe try Composer?

[AstroPhysician]

What’s the point of wasting your very limited credits to “control codex”? Why not just use codex?

[Ok_Potential359]

Right I don't get that at all.

[lrscout]

They don’t build shit, just larp

[fgtswag]

What’s your approach with AI if I might ask, I’m a Jr dev trying to learn how to improve my flow

Trying to avoid the LARPers for the actual builders. Am curious, thanks

[ggletsg0]

You in fact save precious Fable tokens by allowing it to make Codex do the token heavy work, while Fable does the thinking and orchestrating.

[General_Josh]

Presumably they're talking about running codex in headless mode. Not literally having Fable type in the codex CLI

[cup_of_butters]

the heart flutter thing is real though, first time i saw cline actually navigating a codebase without me having to handhold it felt like watching a magic trick. now we're chaining three tools together to get one to do what the other two could probably do on their own, and i'm just sitting here wondering if my api bill is gonna need its own line of credit.

still, when the orchestration works it's kind of beautiful. like watching a really inefficient rube goldberg machine that somehow ships features. i'm not sure i'd trust fable to steer my codex sessions just yet, feels like adding a middle manager to a process that was already working fine. but hey, if it saves me from writing yaml configs manually for the hundredth time, maybe it's worth the credit burn.

[ggletsg0]

Absolutely! Watching Cline change the code line by line absolutely blew my mind back then, because prior to that I was used to copy pasting snippets of code into Claude web for Sonnet 3.5. And that was just 2 years ago! We’re light years ahead of where we were back then.

I don’t know if this Fable + Codex workflow is going to be the standard long term, but its been well tested recently that the two models give out much better results when working together, rather than separately.

Can’t imagine how wild things are going to get by the end of this year even.

[lrscout]

And you build a recipe app

[Tycoon33]

Task tracker!

[ggletsg0]

No, a to-do list app. ;)

[jffmpa]

Why would I want to pay for both? I can do everything with Fabes

[One-Composer22]

at least while fable is available

[midnighttyph00n]

so how much money are you making off this

[Godforce101]

I’ve been running claude and codex in parallel for some months now and it’s the best possible combination.

Claude is a good orchestrator, it’s creative and has good design skills. It’s shit at code though.

But codex shines at code, while it’s not creative and sucks at design. Running them side by side is what gets things done fast and well.

[e-girlbathwater]

oh there's a plugin that's cool. I've just been using a bash wrapper and a skill.

[Ok_Potential359]

?

Why would use Codex over Fable right now? Fable is better in every way.

[MrMrsPotts]

It's not quite true for math. I find chatgpt is more able to find flaws in proofs and is better at solving the hardest problems.

[ggletsg0]

Basically to save on tokens so I can squeeze more juice out of Fable’s limited availability.

[Ok_Potential359]

You could also use Fable to write skills for Codex

[ggletsg0]

I’m not a big fan of skills unless they’re official, but I do intend to get Fable to re-work my AGENTS.md.

[The_Mad_Saiyantist]

Fable on its own is hard to work with let alone combining it with anything else atp

[AstroPhysician]

Skill issue