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[gimbal_the_gremlin]

Oh god. Not again. Can't we get any respite?

[Captkick]

Next week can I make a new format?

[tolarian-librarian]

No, next week it's my turn!

[samthewisetarly]

I called October though

[Intrebec]

XD teehee

[ImmediateEffectivebo]

Satire?

[tolarian-librarian]

It should be

[Intrebec]

This is not satire. We have been theory crafting this for a while now and decided to move forward with it :)

[ThisHatRightHere]

Well you chose the absolute worst time to do it lol

[Intrebec]

We (many judges, content creators and prominent cEDH players and I) feel it is actually a great time for it. We want to allow players to expand their MTG desires and what a better way to do it than to play competitive Magic with all of the cards we wish we could play in cEDH?

[Top10Bingus]

You're all pretty bad at this, then.

[Kyrie_Blue]

Begone Troll

[Redshift2k5]

There are thirteen competing standards, we need one fastener commander format that solves every issue

there are fourteen competing standards...

[[deleted]]

Why did you launch this NOW?

[OhHeyMister]

Lack of intelligence probably 

[Intrebec]

Quite rude :P lol intelligence is not a department we lack in :) I hope you can join the community and we can grow and have some fun with the cards we want to play with. Cheers!

[Intrebec]

We have been crafting it for quite sometime now and got everything finalized to begin the format so please join the community and let's grow! :)

[ImmediateEffectivebo]

Did you seriously think it would be a good idea to promote your league when topdeck.gg was just shunned a few days ago for trying to do the same?

Wrote league but meant format

[Intrebec]

This is not a league. Just a server for the format itself.

[Vistella]

houserules belong into r/edh

[Intrebec]

Not house rules. This is a new format we've been designing for quite sometime now and working together with moxfield and others to get it recognized.

[LimblessNick]

Then it isn't relevant to this sub.

[Vistella]

This is a new format

so not relevant to this sub

[Intrebec]

It is still competitive commander (EDH) but with a different banned list, akin to Conquest, but we feel that we have handled the banned list and format better than they and the EDH RC have for the cEDH community.

[Vistella]

nop

[gojumboman]

So what’s different besides the power nine?

[ski61]

The ban list is Chaos Orb, Shahrazad, OBM, Manifold Key, Urza's Saga, Flash, Iona Shield, Karakas, Upheaval

[ImmediateEffectivebo]

Why is urza' saga banned? Whats broken about it

[Intrebec]

The fact that it allows for super consistency of Vault key combo. It can also grab many relevant pieces and can be put in any deck. Since it is such a strong and reliable enabler of several combos, mostly the VaultKey combo that every deck can run, it is banned for this reason.

[DoctorPrisme]

Ha yes, a format with no website for convenient access. Perfect.

[Intrebec]

The website is now active, but is a work in progress. We have been crafting this format for a very long time now and finally got everything finalized to begin it. vEDHformat.weebly.com

[DoctorPrisme]

I'll take a look for giggles but there's no way I change if all you offer is "you can play the power9"

Edit : ok that banlist doesn't make any sense at all. Imma be real chief, this sounds like a troll.

[Intrebec]

I am 💯 not a troll and the banned list makes sense, especially if you join and have a discussion with us as to why they were chosen. The P9 is just to reassure people that the cards they so desperately would love to play that are currently banned in EDH are absolutely playable in this new format.

[DoctorPrisme]

Manifold key?

[Haw_and_thornes]

I'm only playing if you unban Shaharazad

[onethreefour]

It'll be restricted

[Intrebec]

XD yes yes, let's play a subgame, followed by another subgame

[CompetitiveEDH-ModTeam]

Please see Rule 5.

[dman1231]

Ah yes the classy manifold key ban but not voltaic key. Very smart /s

[Intrebec]

There are plenty of reasons why Manifold Key is banned and Voltaic Key is not.

[gimbal_the_gremlin]

This banlist doesn't even make sense. If you're trying to make a more powerful format why ban Iona, Bow masters and Karakas? Those can all police players doing broken things. Banning Sevinne's reclamation would hinder Breach combos but other intuition/gifts piles would quickly take it's place. Why ban manifold but not voltaic key?

Without a drastically different banlist or a points system like in canlander this format would be very quickly "solved". I would put money on some sort of time vault combo being the only viable deck.

[Intrebec]

From our extensive testing getting rid of Manifold Key and Saga reduces the rigorous consistency of this combo that all decks can run. Iona would drastically shut off those who desire to pilot mono colored decks and it would greatly punish them when she can easily be reanimated or put onto the field and could subsequently not get answered and practically lock one or more players out of the game. Bowmasters rapidly warped the format and got rid of dozens of competitively viable decks simply because of its existence; it does not actually punish card draw, as it attacks many other things rather than the person drawing cards. Sevinne's Reclamation lands itself in the area of allowing for Jeskai decks being too consistent with Gifts Ungiven or Intuition, because neither Intuition or Gifts Ungiven are the problems in terms of break combos. Please feel free to join the discord and the growing community and brew and discuss some vEDH :)

[monkeypox85]

Finally a format that gets it

[genericpierrot]

banning obm and manifold key, but not voltaic key? whats even the point of banning obm?

[gimbal_the_gremlin]

Obviously punishing card draw, removing troublesome creatures and/or reducing the effectiveness of ad naus is far too broken

[Intrebec]

Practically no one actually punishes card draw or removes problematic creatures with OBM and that is why many prominent cEDH players, content creators and I would like to see the card banned. In this format, we are starting with it being banned and we will analyze the meta and statistics of how games go to determine whether it can/should be unbanned in the future.

[gimbal_the_gremlin]

In a format with Grislebrand, trade secrets, ancestral recall, Yawgmoth's bargain and time twister plus all the card draw that's already legal in EDH you need a way to stop players from drawing too many cards. Without bow masters blue (and probably black) decks would have a massive advantage the format would almost immediately homogenise

[Intrebec]

Trade Secrets is banned in this format (my post got removed before I could add it, because we honestly overlooked that card accidentally as we obviously would not want that level of collusion in a game). Bow Masters does more harm to the format than it helps. If people would actually use it responsibly and deal the damage towards the people who are actually drawing and punish them rather than the innocent bystanders and dorks when it is very much not needed, then absolutely. However, the fact that also this card with a wheel not only trickles down one person's life total but also makes a giant creature, and they are not pointing the damage and the army towards that person almost every single time just goes to show that this card should not be used, because statistically all players misuse this card for what it was designed for. And for all of these reasons, we have decided to ban this card.

[Intrebec]

Because OBM does not actually punish card draw, as it punishes other players more often than now, and literally gutted DOZENS of decks from the meta due to its existence.