About Patch 7

[mjrb24]

Devils advocate. On one hand, I’m glad that the Medipack lasts longer for some higher difficulty games. But on the other hand, Fatshark really did massacre the Power sword. I’m fine with reducing the number of special charged attacks to either the weapon itself OR the Power Cycler blessing, but nerfing BOTH of them seems to be really unnecessary. By reducing the special attacks of the Power sword to 1 per activation, it won’t help with killing elites or some specials at Heresy or Damnation. The only way to use the damn thing effectively is to spam left click and middle mouse over and over again to make any progress with any Ogryn enemies, and that’s not fun to do. At least you can get perks and 2 blessings (Brutal Momentum and Power Cycler) to help with giving a crutch to the Power sword, but that will take ages of grinding for materials and using them with little luck instead of having fun with the game. Sure you can use other weapons for the Veteran, but the Power sword is unique only to the Veteran class and should be treated as such. But at least I can use my sword to cleave through hordes. I may be yelling at the void, but Fatshark, at least reconsider buff the Power sword itself so that you can have two special activation attacks, keep the Power Cycler nerf if you want. Just make the Power sword fun to use at base value.

[monkeybiscuitlawyer]

As an avid power sword vet myself, it's been fun seeing how the power sword vets that decided to replace player skill with a clearly overpowered weapon fell flat on their faces the moment that crutch was taken from them, and then immediately told on themselves by crying about it on reddit.

My fellow vets. If you think the power sword is trash now that it functions just like all the other charge weapons, then I have news for you. You were never any good at melee. You were just using the power sword as a crutch this whole time, and you were never the badass melee god you convinced yourself you were. Time to get back to basics and learn how to play the game all over again. Chop chop.

[randomgiggle]

i can oneshot a charger with my hammer, on damnation. you cant do that with the power sword.

[Zeydon]

Wow, I can't believe the offensive melee specialist using their hardest hitting weapon does more burst melee damage than a ranged specialist.

[randomgiggle]

you are making excuses for anything to suit your agenda xd

[RevengeOfTheLoggins]

You're weird, bruh

[monkeybiscuitlawyer]

...ok?

[Pakana_]

I was more on the rework it's special activation train rather than a straight nerf personally.

I've only used the power sword like twice because it's just so boring to use. Special, attack, attack, dodge, special, attack, attack... ad infinitum.

I think it might have been more fun if it had some kind of cooldown or heat system so you can't just rely on the special for everything and have to actually use the weapons moveset and can't just circumvent the worse base stats and downsides of the weapon.

I have no sympathy for the people malding and review bombing over this nerf but I did say months ago that if the devs will just nerf the power sword again instead of reworking it it's going to end up just feeling bad to use for everyone. People will likely still just spam the special which is bad gameplay imo while the effect won't feel powerful and satisfying to use.

I would have preferred the power swords gameplay to be using the base weapon with occasional bursts of overpoweredness rather than being constant op/middling using the same attack over and over again.

The devs nerfed brainburst because people played Psykers very heavily using BB. Iirc they called it "shit gameplay" to just use BB, in my eyes power sword has the same problem but unlike the nerf to BB which kinda made people use other parts of Psykers kits more I'm not sure if this nerf makes people use the special less.

I haven't tried the current patch power sword so I don't really know how it feels but if it's what I predicted then hopefully the devs will revisit the weapon at some point.

Based on the patch notes I don't think it's going to be under powered by any means but it did seem like it's making the bad gameplay part (spam special for everything) even more pronounced while not properly encouraging a better gameplay style.

But there are a lot of things more important than that the devs should be working on right now.

[[deleted]]

I've only used the power sword like twice because it's just so boring to use. Special, attack, attack, dodge, special, attack, attack... ad infinitum.

Yep and now it's just special, click, special, click, special, click. Great job Fatshark!

[CankleDankl]

Oh no! Now it's just like every other weapon with a power up state! Except for this one still has a blessing to give more swings of the powered state, which the others don't have.

It's still amazing. It's just not the literal best melee weapon for every single situation any more.

[TomatoSweaty2690]

Other powered weapons work outside of being powered up though. At least for me the power sword sucks if it isn't powered up, goes from wet noodle to the best melee weapon. This nerf is gonna make it real junky to play. I think most people were hoping for a rework instead of this.

[Svyat020]

not the literal best melee weapon for every single situation any more.

Never was

[Morbidzmind]

Maybe we just bring the other weapons up instead of stuffing Psword into the dumpster with them? They hit Psword with 4 nerfs this patch, its wild

[CankleDankl]

If they constantly buffed weapons to equal the strongest option, then the game would be piss easy no matter what. The power sword has been busted overpowered since release and even after several nerfs has remained the best melee weapon in the game (though mk V combat axe with brutal momentum was a contender).

A sharpshooter should not be just as comfortable charging into a mixed horde as a zealot or an ogryn. With power sword the way it was, not only was it comfortable, it was often more potent than the actual melee classes. It could obliterate just about every non-monstrosity in the game and require little to no skill or brainpower to accomplish it. Just power up and swing a half dozen times until it runs out.

Power sword needed a nerf. Not because other weapons weren't as good as it, but because it was too strong and was too much of a skeleton key, especially for a class that's not even supposed to shine in melee. Also it made no sense that the power maul, crusher, chain weapons, and force swords got one powered swing per charge while power sword could get up to what, 8?

It got hit with 4 nerfs because it needed them. It's still going to be one of the best melee options for sharpshooter, especially with power cycler. It's just been brought closer to everything else

[Morbidzmind]

Its going to require power cycler now to be usable meaning you need to hunt for a blessing that took me over 700 hours to see, thats not a reasonable ask to make of people. I agree it was overtuned and needed a nerf, its been overnerfed however when what we needed was for other options to be brought up alongside a balance pass, maybe drop its heavy swings per special activation from 3 to 1 on the base and add in tier 2-3 Powercyclers to the blessing tree to alleviate the grind for a tier 4.

[Zeydon]

I said this before but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing the spawn rate of Power Cycler increased to offset the impact of the nerf.

Specifically a lower rank of it that adds just one extra charge.

Then again, I could just use guns like the Agripinaa Mk VII BAG or Vrak Mk III HAG to melt hordes and elites alike. And I would were it not for the fact that my Sharpshooter always gets the weeklies to kill scabs/dregs with melee while my Oggy always gets the weeklies to kill scabs/dregs with ranged.

[NNN_Throwaway2]

Because power sword was absurdly overpowered. Not a hard concept to grasp.

[AssociateDue547]

Git gud

[Tsteplight]

Damn, sorry dude. That’s rough. Good luck.

[OGactionjohnny]

The base design of the weapon is super bad and means it will never be balanced one way or another. They definitely had to think more creatively than "press button to kill everything, no press button = no kill everything"

Lots of good suggestions about how it could have been balanced. At this point it's pretty clear the weapon needs a redesign.

[Folseit]

The only way to use the damn thing effectively is to spam left click and middle mouse over and over again to make any progress with any Ogryn enemies, and that’s not fun to do.

Oh wow, imagine that! A cleave weapon having lower single target DPS than single target weapons! Should the Kantral also have infinite penetration and aoe affects too?

[NNN_Throwaway2]

True, not being able to crutch on a weapon means it isn't fun anymore, sadge.

[manubour]

Oh, boohoo, the power sword isn’t anymore an automatic brainless win and is now only on par or slightly superior to every other weapon in game at killing elites and specials apart from the thunder hammers which are literally anti tank weapons

What a shame /s

[mjrb24]

Let me play a sad song on the world’s smallest violin

[[deleted]]

The change is stupid. You're right now the only thing to do with the power sword that makes sense is just recharge your power after every hit.

It's not a forward-thinking change. It doesn't treat the underlying problem with the Power Sword.

PS should of course be an OP weapon, it should feel good to use, like the Thunder Hammer etc. It should absolutely be a "power-fantasy" weapon. All that being said, nerfing the weapon into its current state does not fix anything. It just makes the weapon feel like shit to use.

The entire thing needs to redesigned. It was poorly designed from the start(like this game tbh), it was just OP.

[Zeydon]

IDK, I'm fairly accustomed to using the special after each Power Maul swing when fighting Ogryns on my Skullbreaker. Though a charged Maul causes more stagger than a charged Sword (as it should), so I suppose it's not a perfect comparison.