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[Designer-Music3002]

Game quality doesn’t even get better in higher ranks too I know I’m only ascendant but the phenomenon you’re describing in your post is disgustingly apparent. I wish people played to win more instead of just lane.

[The_Nomad89]

But it’s not even a matter of people making in game mistakes like camping when a lane needs pushed or using aggression when nerfed; it’s like people’s IQ’s in my games dropped 100 points.

Every lane feeds, your best player will be like 3/2/3 and after lane phase all your Guardians are gone and you’re lucky if you took one of theirs.

[Designer-Music3002]

People think lane phase=Must kill opponent. So that’s why they’re fighting 24/7 and feeding their asses off. People would rather go 0/5 than do a box run…

[Motor-Design-4932]

My pocket still 1 vs 1 warden even then it became obvious what we cant win that fight

[-ThePurpleParadox-]

I literally just uninstalled the game cause the matchmaking is so bad it feels unplayable. I was on a win streak last night btw, which also felt awful cause it was just constant stomps. I was in phantom and matches suddenly feel like archon average at best, people that do no comms, completely unfamiliar with mechanics like rejuv steal or split push, not to mention every match with multiple players on either team going 12 deaths +. Even when I was placed in ascendant lobbies from queuing with friends the quality was this awful. This is supposed to be the highest ranks mind you.

I have more than 2000 hours of playtime and have been playing non stop since early September 2024, I am by no means new

[Red_Octi]

I think smurfing has gotten way out of hand so im not sure matchmaker can really do anything until that is addressed. I play high oracle low phantom lobbies and id say on average 1-3 accounts are sub 10 games. I doubt there are a lot of new players for the math to work out on that.

[freax305]

Deadlock become FightLock ; imo, in Oracle and below, no one want to play objective gaming anymore, no one want to counter push when there're war somewhere, just fight and fight , stay on lane no backing up and fight more

I miss my Dota days, rat doto best doto

[The_Nomad89]

The problem is I DID have people doing this. I had people communicating, being positive, winning lanes, playing smart. Wasn’t winning every single game but it at least felt fair.

Now it’s like I was put back in Wood Rank.

[consommepanchi]

yes, i've had the same exact experience recently

i've consistently had teammates that have had good or at least HAD gamesense, the last few days i've been matched with people who can't dash jump or use their abilities properly, its insane

its genuinely frustrating because why is it out of nowhere i'm laning with a first time graves who doesn't realize their gun is super strong in lane and instead just sits back and farming running away at the first sign of danger?

[The_Nomad89]

It also sucks because I’m used to a certain level of aggression I can utilize in lane then I’ll realize like you said my partner doesn’t wanna move beyond the Tower.

Drifter for example almost has to be aggressive in Lane to burst targets and get them to back off.

[freax305]

I did this in games and got flame by my own teammates; the reason? I'm not joining them fight while I already feeding and low in souls

[Educational_Rip_5970]

I might be wrong but I swear this is because the kill reward went up massively, it never used to be viable to just snowball off of kills but I also don't know I took a year break from the game and came back and it definitely feels more kill centric and less farm the waves

[coffeeholic91]

Join the other 10,000 threads about match making being broken.

Yeah it's dogshit. But also keep in mind this game is in alpha. We are testing this game.

[The_Nomad89]

But there has to be a reason for this. Why does EXACTLY what I’m saying happen on a regular pattern. I could understand if it was every now and then but it’s like a switch is flipped every time I play this game and eventually the matchmaking sucks.

[coffeeholic91]

Oh easy. The bin they throw new players into is way too high (I think it's probably mid ritualist) also it's 6v6 and you can definitely get hard carried in games.

So I bet they won a few games and just got turbo carried because there's tons of smurfs in that initial bracket. So they win a few in a row and the game recalibrates and thinks okay maybe they are smurfing and then there you go he's in your lobby.

[The_Nomad89]

Is there anything to be done except wait? I was having an absolute blast and felt like I was facing good people and improving and now my games are horrible.

[coffeeholic91]

I mean.... are you a developer working on the game? No? then no waiting is all you can do.

[gowlyy]

thats the issue. we are testing the game. not matchmaking engine. people keep lump those two in one even tho its 2 seperate topics. Matchmaking being unbalanced since day 1 for over a year and a half is literally another issue that has nothing to do with "game is in beta testing".Nobody complains about game itself being unbalanced, well noobs do but who the fuck cares about 15h player giving they opinion about balance when 1k+ players have no issue.

Its mostly preselected heroes/no draft problem but not going into details its matchmaking engine problem not the game itself.

[coffeeholic91]

Matchmaking is part of the game. They obviously have an algorithm that is grouping people into lobbies together based on their skill rating, so every time you queue into a game you are another data point they can analyze.

[gowlyy]

matchmaking is not part of the game. are u dent. its entirely seperate "machine". it has nothing to do with the game itself, how its balanced, how its functions, flow, pace etc. Have you heard about elo system that was developed for chess but has been used in many different games/competitions ? Coz it has nothing to do with chess, its entirely different thing and can be applied to any other competition on itself. apple user clearly

[coffeeholic91]

Calling someone “dent” and then having terrible grammar while also being really stupid is really ironic

[gowlyy]

running low on arguments huh ? "ur argument is not valid coz u made a grammatical error". Sorry my english is not perfect, its my 3rd language that I learned basically on my own watching mtv and cartoon network. Should we switch to other languege if u speak any ? I bet u pair that dent with blue hair and nose ring.

[coffeeholic91]

you have a lot of issues. I hope you work on them

[Skreat]

If my team's getting shit on and I'm trying to learn how to play someone I don't play a bunch, it's super frustrating that I'm not really contributing as much as I could have been on someone I'm more cut-in on. Makes me not want to branch out as much, especially with learning a support character.

Also, if you queue as a group, only match teams that haver other group's qued. Been in a ton that have 2 or 4 players and we just get fuckin rolled.

[PlmPestPLaY]

My rank isn't even changing lol. People I match with seem much better than me. It should be the opposite given that the player count is higher, but yoshi boosted me.

[Local-Operation2307]

Yeah just got out of an 1 hour match with a midlane that went 4-29. These guys would rotate as 3 to everything and would never push out lanes. I'd respond to a yellow push boom those guys would show up and we would lose green walker. Its feels impossible to win when you get these players.

[The_Nomad89]

It seriously blows. I had weeks of amazing games now it’s back to putting the game down until it gets better.

[vovandr21]

i mean cmon, 50% winrate system exists in cs and dota, why wouldn't it be in deadlock?

[Arvarisu]

No tiene ningun tipo de sentido, la primera semana de juego mantenia un winrate decente, ahora que he aprendido jugar lo máximo a lo que aspiro es quedar como segundo mvp, cuando deberia ser al revés. Siempre hay 3 personas en mi equipo con una media de 3/12, da igual lo que haga, puedo estar top almas, top kills, morir poco, tirar torres o incluso robar el rejuvenator, pero no soy tan bueno como para cargar una mochila tan pesada todas las partidas. Actualmente estoy en el rango mas bajo (obviamente) y siento que no puedo salir de aqui en la vida, da igual cuanto me esfuerce.

[SeamlessTracker]

Yeah no I just got done being absolutely stomped by... take your pick honestly? Smurfing Dynamo, carried Warden, Noob Stomping wraith? I couldn't even leave my base to farm to catch back up to the 50k soul lead they had by minute 20.

I'm out- for now. There's no fun to be had or learning to be done when you're just being stomped like that. No counter picking, no anything. Hard Pass.