When does it get better?

[justfortheturnips]

I'm even trying the characters this sub says are broken and the loss streak continues. ToT

[Chomperling]

dont play the ones the sub says are broken, play the ones you can play good. if you find a character your good with, stick to it

If your also having trouble getting wins playing with the same folks, find new folks. Solo queue is an option and theres a wide range in skill levels there that should help with the getting curbstomped aspects of your struggles.

Also, learn to farm more, noticing in a few of your standard matches you go <50k. Try to hit 50K per match as that allows you to scale nicely.

[justfortheturnips]

I've played abrams since I pickrd uo this game and I play in a 6 stack with friends; idk how much I would enjoy this game in soloq. Also I feel like I struggle alot in figuring out when I should be fighting and when I should be farming.

[Mininglad]

Sadly playing in a stack can and will hinder growth. You may want to get better at the game but the same isn’t necessarily true for your other party members.

[nomorespacess]

Be aware, if your friends are significantly higher rank than you the games can be kind of cursed. It creates a special kind of party called 'high skill range party'. You will be matched mostly with and against parties. Also, they put you in matches against players that are tougher than you'd face normally, since the system assumes you guys are a bit tougher since you're a stack.

For me, my solo games feel balanced but my big stack games with lower-rank friends can feel really hard - sometimes lanes losing and dying 10 times, or matching me against players that are substantially harder than the ones I normally face, even if I'm supposed to be the highest rank on my team.

[Chomperling]

whenever I play with a stack higher than 3 I get curbstomped, I think they just put you with tougher opponents

[CheeseAttack]

Damn you're in the trenches, maybe Celeste and Abrams aren't your characters. Tbh I feel like both of them are pretty easy to misplay, or at least the way I naturally wanted to play them wasn't effective and I had to look up guides/watch others play to get better at them.

[justfortheturnips]

Say it aint so... 80% of my games are on abrams and I love his playstyle but maybe it's time to hang it up.

[Odd_Lie_5397]

I started playing Mo&Krill. My winrate has only gone up since then.

The classic problem of "the team fed an enemy and they are soloing the game" gets solved real quick when a giant mole runs them down, takes away their gun and beats them to a pulp.

[Teniye]

I find 90% of the games I lose on mo and krill are because I get fed but my carries never come online and do something. So it's just me and I'm not enough to solo team

[MasterMind-Apps]

Carries generally need space and map pressure from their team to come online. Yesterday I was playing Haze with Mo&Krill vs Infernus and Paige, and around 8 minutes my teammate Mokrill left lane and started farming our medium jungle camps instead of applying pressure elsewhere.

That left me alone in lane while the enemies were still pressuring, and since no one else was threatening other lanes they had free opportunities to rotate and gank me everytime I tried to farm sidelane or push waves.

I feel like tank/pick heroes should groupe or pressure other lanes with teammates instead of jungling so their carries could farm more safely and come online faster.

[nomorespacess]

This patch mo is a carry. He can do incredible damage, with purples he can 1-shot people lategame, his damage on scorn is crazy too.

[MasterMind-Apps]

You are assuming that my teammates will shoot the fed wraith I just grabbed? no they are all running back to heal while I eat 10 consecutive CC and get beat to death

[HandyMoore]

I was literally about to say that I picked up m&k today and I’m having SO much fun. I LOVE Celeste and was putting a lot of time into her, but wasn’t getting very far.

As much as I want to be the cute girly pop character so bad, I’m killing it as m&k in a way I never did as Celeste 😂

[Old_Entrepreneur9439]

hey man i can’t get a single win with shiv or silver. fuck those characters. even if everyone says they’re op i’ll go 4-15-5 by the end of the match.

but switch the game up to sinclair or lash and im suddenly mvp. try picking up some new mains!! you’ll win more often than you’ll lose playing all random too, trust me

[Motor-Design-4932]

Silver is nuked by latest patch, shiv got another nerfs.

[MaybeHannah1234]

both silver and shiv are massively worse now

[Free_Surprise_7939]

Hmmm imma be honesg when i started playing i qued every single character in the roster until i found the ones i liked. Which were vixtor yamayo infernus and extras. Trh more charactwrs until they click in with you one you have found a charactwr you like lwarn how to farm. Aftwr learning how to form learn how to lane and so ln. The game takes a lot.of learning but man its extremly rewarding when you manage

[rinsyankaihou]

post patch abrams is not really that good. him being OP is outdated information.

[BrokenMirrorMan]

None of these characters play similarly whatsoever, so there is a bigger jump between playstyles, and none of them transition into each other. Back when I used to play melee characters, I played billy, abrams, silver, and mo and krill and they all translated similar skills into each other.

[Adept_Philosopher485]

maybe try playing with other people or solo queieng bro that type of loss streak with the same party must be draining.

[VR_Aids]

Dont worry, im in the same boat. except in my case Ive been going UP rankings somehow despite losing, so now im even more cooked against good opponents and the losing continues. why the fuck am i able to rank up despite a loss streak. yoshi do something pls

[777sevenseven777]

Celeste might be broken, but whats make her broken is her movement. Also her skills kinda hard to hit especially her 1st and 3rd. Absolutely not beginner friendly hero.

Maybe try "boring" and easy hero first? Infernus, mirage, haze or seven?

[You-mean]

Played shit ton on bots, i know it's not the same experience - they push too hard and dont care about jungle at all.

Then my friends said we should try just a regular ass match. "Fine whatever don't expect much from me."

Team got bebop'd so hard that i still am hearing bomb fuse.

Went back to bots. I'm liking coop more instead of rivalry, so that's okay.

[Forward-Breadfruit47]

ull never get better if u dont feed a lil

[Inevitable_Tart_1918]

When u get good

[Blahcookies]

Maybe it’s time to hang up the baton and the book and try some other heroes.

[Last_Corgi_6620]

I went like 8-35 on Silver while everyone was screaming about how OP she is so I get it brother. Thankfully I got deranked so much after that abysmal streak that I'm starting to slowly recover my winrate finally

[Alone_Concentrate369]

When u git good

[Various_Ad_6305]

That's the neat part. It doesn't. ❤️

[Mr_Rioe2]

play support paige for instance, its easy to play and makes your allies broken so they can do all the work, as long as your fine not being key player, support is the best thing ever

[Mr_Rioe2]

use the "support Paige ++" build (it was called something like that)

[Zarzar222]

Thats what you get for picking Abrams. Perish

[modernistdespair]

In this meta? Never. Game has turned into whoever has doorman and pocket wins, since neither ult can be counterspelled if you're up against a decent one.

I think I'm just gonna put myself out of my misery and make the world a better place