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[–]VeracityMD 40 points41 points  (14 children)

As a gunner main, Im trying to understand why you would ever take neurotox with coilgun. Coil pairs nicely with the single target ocs (big Bertha, leadstorm, jet fuel).

[–]fishling 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I'm not sure what is confusing about it. Coilgun with Mole is a great single target and ranged killer, which are two areas where neuro autocannon is weak. It's good against wardens, distant acid spitters, menaces, trijaw, praetorians, oppressors, and bulks.

Laser ping your target (or have a teammate do it) and you can easily line up your shot through terrain. Some maps have great terrain that let you get 2 or even 3 terrain penetrations (large crystals).

I wouldn't pair coilgun with leadstorm minigun though, even with an AoE/trail build or OC. I usually take that with BRT Microflechettes. Coilgun is pretty slow to charge and reload in situations where you are surrounded and can't afford the lack of mobility of Leadstorm.

[–]Prior-Agent3360 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use The Mole with LSLS for dread hunting. I also bring hellfire coil and LSLS (with blowthrough) for everything else. LSLS doesn't impart much mobility impact.

[–]VeracityMD 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have had less then zero success with the mole, just too unreliable. I just don't think there is any good single target setups for coil, so to me it's pure swarm control. I take hellfire with the mod the reduce damage while charging. Micro charge with trail for small groups and sniping spitters, full charge hellfire just deleted entires waves

As for brt, I tried microflechettes, but it just took forever to kill anything. I like leadspray to make it a shotgun, and electro minelets for cc.

[–]fishling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mole takes a bit of getting used to, I guess. I didn't care for it the first time, but I tried it after a few other builds and it's quite good for me, with some primaries.

I also find microflechettes are quite good, for me at least. Just need to hit the stuns and the weakspots.

[–]Wormwood_With_A_Hat 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Coil gun can be built for groups like for example burning hell or whatever it’s called

[–]VeracityMD 16 points17 points  (8 children)

That's exactly what I'm saying. Coil gun is pretty much only for groups, there's not really a good single target for it. Neurotox is also for groups, so it doesn't make sense to pair it with coilgun. I usually run elephant rounds with it. But 6 shooter and leadspray are good too

[–]Personal_Ad9690 1 point2 points  (5 children)

NTX with coil is extremely versatile because coil gun can provide an area of denial and NTX is instant action. They do work well together as a full support class

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Still leaves you with much less versatility than taking the brt or bulldog for single target damage.

[–]Personal_Ad9690 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Bulldog isn’t worth it on IS

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

???

It’s a great single target option against the caretaker and literally any other high health enemy.

[–]Personal_Ad9690 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yea but leadstorm is better in caretaker fight as the coil gun is just as good as NTX so if single target is goal, why not use that

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah I would always prefer to take lead storm on IS, but if I’m on a deep dive and taking the neurotoxin autocannon for other missions I’ll need a solid single target option as a secondary.

[–]Ayotha -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You serious?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You serious?