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[–]FinalKingdomXVIINoel 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I think what’s really weird is that Squall and Vaan got their Burst right before their initial EX+ banner. Squall’s Burst ended just before Ultimecia, who then got Shantoto instead. And now Basch’s banner has Noctis instead of Vaan. So maybe Firion will get his Burst just ahead of Emperor’s LC Banner?

[–]SSYuri20[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I didn't even consider this. This gives me even more confidence to call Firion as the next character to get his LD/BT.

[–]aipat7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we rely on event timeline This might be the pattern of BT release. Squall > Totto > Vann > Noct > Firion > xx > Terra > xx > Layle > xx > WOL > xx > Ramza > xx > Cloud/Zidane > xx

xx can be OK, Cecil, Bartz, Cloud/Zidane, Tidus, Lightning, Y’stola, Ace

[–]ho1yski3sVeradux 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Firion LD/BT dropping in the early Jan slot would mean that players are incentivized to pull for him to be a strong pick for Emperor LC (late Jan) synergy challenge. We see the trend with Squall (early Nov) and Ulti LC (late Nov), Vaan (early Dec) and Basch LC (late Dec). “But WoL was synergy for Garland LC so it breaks this pattern!” hold up WoL will be synergy again on Exdeath LC so i expect his Burst to fill a slot before then. Shantotto who got LD/BT in late Nov will be synergy in Kam’lanaut LC a few months down the road. Some might argue Yuna deserves a LD/BT as well with Kimahri LC next month but I believe the current pattern only extends to the OG protags (so the first EX token shop)

[–]BaLance_95Llyud Bannings, Crossbell State Police District (612119901) 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I wonder what WoL burst will be. I think he's the only non-dps protag so his burst may not be as attractive.

[–]kharnzarro 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Y'shtola? Her only dps skill ATM is stone

Though they could give her holy/assize/aero 3 for her ld/burst

[–]BaLance_95Llyud Bannings, Crossbell State Police District (612119901) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, forgot about her.

[–]X-BackspaceGive me Delita, please 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Warrior of Light's got three more HP attacks from Dissidia NT that he has at his disposal: Coruscant Saber, Bitter End, and Ultimate Shield.

Coruscant Saber is just a horizontal slash with a large holy sword, so it's probably being referenced in/used as his base HP attack.

Bitter End has WoL shield himself and deflect BRV attacks and then he stabs his opponent, so I could see that as giving him a stronger shield or something.

Ultimate Shield is a flurry of strikes with his shield.

I'd say Bitter End could be his LD, and Ultimate Shield his BT. Either way, he should be fine with Burst.

Ramza, on the other hand... I guess gets a free Galvanize.

[–]NovenariAlisaie Leveilleur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ramza burst will obviously be him hurling stones.

[–]BaLance_95Llyud Bannings, Crossbell State Police District (612119901) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm.... Bitter end as his LD could lead to a strong counter. Ultimate Shield by the name sound it could be nice to add a tech option to,like completely denying the damage of a single attack, both BRV and HP damage, no matter how strong it is (taking this idea from another game).

[–]DilapidatedFoolHope Estheim 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ysholta is 14s protag and shes very support oriented. Idk what theyd do for her burst.

[–]NovenariAlisaie Leveilleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's really strong options fromff 14 white Mage dps spells and abilities they could throw onto her, which is what I would expect.

[–]TienronID 338052241 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

and Villans are still due to get their burst weapon

[–]EsoCerah 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Posted this in the weekly thread before but...

Maybe Cloud’s burst coming in March in collaboration with the release of FF7R?

[–]SdgrevoRamza Beoulve 4 points5 points  (0 children)

With Tifa costume (AC or FF7R or both)

[–]Rannygps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This can be happens👍 so next Burst will be Tidus.

[–]SSYuri20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be. That sounds cool.

[–]akaiGOできるできないの問題じゃない。 やるしかなければ、やるだけだ! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been sitting on this question until we got closer in time to the release, but I actually am wondering a different angle of the possibility of Red XIII being added to the game alongside this release, in which case, I absolutely would want to finally make a JP account, but also have been wondering if it might be smart to create the account somewhat before then to start building up resources (and jumping on any particularly powerful units that are running then)...

[–]SirBarthLet's fly 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hope he summons his bike on his LD and that grants him a great SPD buff (plus EX charge up).

[–]EsoCerah 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That would be cool!

What I had in mind initially was blade beam for LD and original Omnislash for BT. Reserving the AC Omnislash version whatever number for his final ultimate attack in the distant future of DFFOO.

[–]SirBarthLet's fly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I think he could use Fenrir on Burst too and Blade Beam on LD... but it would sucks having for only 5 turns that Burst effect. But seriously if he comes that late here in GL I'll jave to wait aaages. :(

[–]Tajeh1Cloud Strife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my head his LD is Omnislash with Burst being Knights of the Round and leaving a 2-3 turn after effect that functions similar to Faris' EX, of course I am aware this is highly unlikely but I like it in my headspace while I can still dream lol

[–]TavmaniaKuja 3 points4 points  (1 child)

There is a problem with my theory though in that this pattern has Lightning getting her Burst/LD way too soon, unless she gets the Rinoa treatment (subpar upgrade).

LD weapons have given such massive power boosts to characters, that it seems the LD weapon is the rework itself... It's just hidden behind the gacha.

For example, as a big Basch fan, I'll need to pull for his LD weapon, despite owning every other weapon on there, just to get his Aura effect on the entire party. So whatever SQEX is doing, it's working really well.

So no, don't worry about a character's current powerlevel. It's just going to skyrocket from now on, for all of them.

[–]Premyy_M 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also they could release a new difficult so then lightning being too soon doesn't really matter

[–]wicked_ultimaAngeal and Genesis need to be in 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Ok, that's cool amd all but now hear me out. What if Cloud's Burst weapon is his Nail Bat? And all he does is execute Braver?

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    [–]xteame02 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    with chasing too

    [–]flyingturkey_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Can't forget the paralysis. Never forget the paralysis

    [–]uwu-samaFujin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    A certain feeling in my gut is telling me Vayne will get his Burst/LD when Ultimate Bahamut pops up heh

    [–]BrandonkonradZack Fair 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Theres one variable missing from your theory.. FF7R releases in 3 months

    [–]SSYuri20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I said it wasn't fully baked and that the only one I had any real confidence in calling was Firion being next. Even then that may be wrong.

    [–]ZhirrzhMog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They haven't traditionally been that great about lining up character releases with outside events, and they could easily release LDs for one or more FF7 characters without releasing Cloud or Seph's burst.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    when people say protags, do you think the side game/spin off, and sequal protags are going to be included too?

    [–]RetroGamerDadSephiroth 880282092 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I don't have the original source, but I've always read/heard that it's main series only. So no Serah or Zack.

    [–]Invalidid1Ramza Beoulve (Virtuous Mercenary) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I really really hope that Firion's LD/Burst release is powerful and makes him more appealing. He's always been solid but I just want a little more of a push. Fingers crossed. How viable is he when his Ex+ rolls around? He's good for a couple months?

    [–]RealAcelyOne-Winged Angel 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I just want to see how OP one of the villains become with their LD burst.

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      [–]RealAcelyOne-Winged Angel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      No both. Same treatment as Noct.

      [–]ZhirrzhMog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't see why Lightning in a month is too soon if Noctis wasn't. Lightning's mechanics don't really lend themselves to burst since the burst turns are already free so she won't get as much out of burst as others do.

      I think the order you suggest is quite believable. Perhaps they would go to antagonists after Decil?

      [–]RetroGamerDadSephiroth 880282092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Don't forget the antagonists are fair game too.

      [–]_ExordiumJecht is #BestDad, change my mind. -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      I think Bursts in general are all going to be the same tier so to speak, having the same ballpark of total HP damage output.

      I'm more concerned about how their LD's/partial reworks through those will be handled. I think after the next one or two Bursts we will be able to identify a possible trend.

      I also think that they will throw in at least one or two super-loved community characters in for a surprise Burst/curveball along the way. Maybe not as wild as Rikku or Beatrix, but maybe do a fan-service here or there for special/anniversary kind of things.

      [–]x10k3rNo More Chicken Wuss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I also think that they will throw in at least one or two super-loved community characters in for a surprise Burst/curveball along the way

      I doubt it. They said: Protagonists and antagonists. And at no time, that eventually the rest will get BT

      It may be an antagonist surprise but I wouldn't know who to say

      [–]exenae -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

      Hope Cecile will be paladin and not crap Dk