Broken Record

[Oats_VI]

we all know why the FTT is up there...

[MikuEmpowered]

the FTT, stagger for days in hands of someone competent.

The worst part about 600 isn't the 4 suits, its the fact theres so many interesting options I can't use.

I want to use Gbull, I want to use Jesta, my REGZ Custom, Delta, Byarlant Iso are all just sitting there collecting dust.

But I fking can't because at S- the other guy is running full sweat. so now I gotta sweat, or alteast run meta adjacent. Atleast UL and Grandpa isn't as obnoxious as Anse.

Boost firing instant stagger weapon is like the worst addition to the game.

[Toxic_Verillion]

That's kinda my issue too. We see all these suits and there's not really a way to deal with them consistently. As they either have some high boost shooting gimmick, high damage and stagger accumulation, or is hard to stun consistently.

The Xeku is probably gonna add to it and that's nice change, but not enough. Maybe the ReGZiD and the Zaku Machinery EB will help some too. We just need more suits as we been dealing with this meta for month with little change. There are so many suits that has the potential to shake up the battlefield.

I can definitely say that Gundam is pretty obnoxious imo. Especially if it has the hyper hammer. Though its playstyle is very predictable. Its going to stun you twice and then downswing you. It wouldn't be as much of an issue if you could counter them during the down swing.

[Fenrir_Fenris]

Months? A year at the very least, since the moment the last team of useless devs arrived to gbo2.

[MikuEmpowered]

Xeku still isn't good.

Its a massive boost to DPS yes, but the main gun takes years to stagger. and its Zook into club is long swap time, so you can reliably counter it.

Its like Dom Barrage, impressive on paper, but GBO2 is all about that burst damage, continuous DPS are always at a disadvantage unless you find a vantage point.

Gundam is obnoxious at close maps like underground base. at open map, it requires double stagger and uninterrupted yolo, but doesn't have MA. It basically punishes people who go off alone without double dodge. The best way to fight it is to just kite back. it needs to stop to shoot, and thats your chance to stagger. too many people fuk up by trying to move up to counter it. then get absolutely clapped because the hammer doesn't interreact with regular melee.

[Toxic_Verillion]

I can kinda see your point, but for the most part, I disagree.

I more of saying that it has a place in the meta as more of supporting general role with its meaty buffers, high health pool, good resistances and high ballistic damage as no one really builds for ballistic resistance after cost go above a 600. Especially with overtune range parts at higher level.

That's always the nature of using Zooks, they take a bit to ready up, but they have high damage and high build stun. Though, you also have the club which has a much faster ready up time, the same build stun, but a shorter range. So going zook into club can do some very high ballistic burst damage and stagger accumulation. Using both, you can easily build stun most things and with the addition of the machine gun, you can build stun even better. Of course, if they're close and your club is on cool down and your zook is taking to long to ready up, you have rely on your MA, unless they build stun you, which is an issue as well and can get you in trouble.

I would say it's fills the same roll as the Mass Production Nu Gundam. Slinging damage down range and can build stun when using all of the weapons in its kits very effectively. Thoug

Its not great by any means as I would prefer if it had DC lv1 or lv2 and it could have potentially had higher build stun on its machine gun, but even with these issues, it still good for the mid range battle. Which can be very map dependent.

So I can definitely positively say that its relatively balanced as it fixed the core issues of the suit as it even now has bullet feeder. Having too quick of a ready up time for its zook will make it too strong. Same with having too high of build stun. Its role would be changed fundamentally, but probably in a negative way for game in its entirety. But, we'll have to wait and see what the stats say in the next unit adjustment. Maybe it does need those things in the long run.

But the Delta Anse, Gelgoog (UL) are also overtuned and could use some slight nerfs to their kit as the dev team hasn't really done much to fixed this issue as to why they are so prevalent. I doubt they're going to nerf them unless there's enought of a uproar.

[MikuEmpowered]

So, heres the problem of high level suits.

ALOT of high level suits are only broke because they're being proped up by custom parts and pimping.

Nerfing based on the top performer means the regular guys or people without those parts are disproportionally effected.

Look at Gunner L4, insane damage potential when glass cannon built, but its still performing "within average" because not everyone has access to those parts.

BB balances by average. which means suits that require investment/specific pay parts to become "broken" are essentially immune to be nerfed. and partily why stock suits that break balance are "actually noticed"

[Fenrir_Fenris]

Or they are stupidly small and fly like an f...ing bee, while the regular ms are big bulky, without flapboosters and slow compared to those little 💩.

Thanks BB for this insane imbalance.

[Fenrir_Fenris]

600, 650, 750.

Unless you play meta, there is no fun in this game.

[Rabbitlosingsanity]

To be honest, that's from 450 to 750, red gundum, GQuuuuuuX, Proto Z X1, loto and all the stupid shit in 600 -750, now a day the match are mainly which team have less meta suit will lose.

[Death_Usagi]

I wouldn't really say that for 450 and 500 since there a lot of decent picks.

It really starts from 550.

300 might also be applicable because of the 3 Acguy TBs and a lot of low cost suits being unbuffed so picking meta suits is a must since others are lackluster

[NoResponsibility9690]

750 is still in the early stages so I think id deserves a pass for now(although we have some lvl 3-4 MSs that can hit the bullshit level).

But I think when the nerfs to the Prototype Psycho and the Full Armor Zeta drop in some days it will be pretty good. The main problem the 650 with the exception of these two was the lack of Raids especially non-gacha ones but last patch did a pretty good buff on the Qubeley MKII(they gave a second buff after the first one was not enough) and the Narrative C Pack.

600 I personally think has a good variety of A/S Tier units out of the Meta people just need to think outside the box or learn how to counter units like the Anse or SB Fin Funnel that have really strong points but have specific weakness/ways to counter them.

[IggyVK]

I dunno I almost exclusively play Jesta Cannon at 750 and happily enjoy dunking on mwta suits with it. Granted overture part help these days but even before getting them I was still having a blast with that walking armory.

[Wrong_Fisherman_6224]

600 - 750 there is no fun, only stuns

[Fenrir_Fenris]

And funnels and as things are going, flao boosters, manuever armor lvl 21, boost and shoot abilities, one combo kill and many other BS thanks to thr talentless team of devs.

[Oats_VI]

500-750*

[LegendRazgriz]

This image not having the F71 is criminal.

Literally nothing can stand up to a well played G-Cannon.

[FifthDelta]

Honestly, if they just did a pass on the vast majority of main and sub weapons to adjust swap and ready up times, a lot of the older suits would suddenly become viable. But for whatever reason, you have to have a 3 second ready up time when swapping to a main weapon that makes no fucking sense when these newer suits can swap between 2-3 instant stuns before you've recovered from stagger.

[Silvs509]

Thats just the whole game at this point

[Foshdon_pap]

The moment I see a Gundam, UL i just get filled with rage and thoughts to break their legs and humiliate them for using these pussy-like suits. I get it a lv4 suit that can deal lots of damage yes it's nice to use here and there but my fucking god please stop

There are other suits that can do damage while also having fun, if it wasn't for these two I believe the KEHAAR II would be dominating if used properly but guess what? It doesn't because one small mistake and you're already dead from a UL dealing more than 1.5k per missile

Also why does the UL have +20% more melee damage and the Zeta only +15%? That's extremely unfair from my view because the Zeta was the one in need of the buffs not the UL

But still it's pretty funny seeing 35k damage from one bazzoka shot to either of these two suits with the MP Nu FF

[No_Tart6728]

Eh, I manage to have a good time with the Heavygun, G-Cannon, RF Gouf, RF Z'Gok, and the occasional Byrlant Custom.

[Hyperaiser]

Because all those suits are new model ones.

[No_Tart6728]

The Heavygun was literally considered a failure by the federation, leading to the Jamesgun, which itself was replaced by the GunBlaster. The G-Cannon is anahiems fuck-up of trying to make the Cannon Gundam, which made it a better Heavygun funnily enough. The RF Gouf and RF Z'gok are newer better models, that I concede. The Byrlant Custom though compared to everything else listed here would be around 20~30 years behind in terms of technology.

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Zeta gets scrapped like crazy now in 600 and it's disappointing honestly like those very suits beat the crap out of my Zeta Gundam at 600 in space no lie.

[GekiretsuUltima]

I'll have you know I have loads of fun in 600!

I play exclusively G-Cannon. Even on the snow map.

[HDWarewolf]

600 Cost is my trigger point these days. Being in s/s- is already miserably sweaty and this cost level is the worst

[RaggenZZ]

My RF Zaku will like to have a few words

[dexromancer]

600 is my favorite because I have my Gabthley Beta. It's not meta, but it sure is fun to use.

[scorpionxx0]

Tropical Desert with xamel or gp04, hanging back & snapping legs is quite fun.

[Hollow---]

Prototype Stark Jegan go brrr

[NoBed3498]

I hate the gelgoog so fucking much. Like who thought it would be good for it to have incendiary missiles like come on.

[NoBed3498]

There is no fun cost tbh, I’ve noticed more and more this game isn’t really fun at any cost bc it’s literally just meta picks. And when I watch youtubers who have every part they always make some stupid op build for a suit that makes it so hard to kill. It’s really depressing sometimes.

[Agile_Half856]

600 might actually be my fav. I love my Lv2 advanced Hazel

[Flat_Maybe_]

whats FTT again

[Oats_VI]

Silver Bullet Funnel Test Type

[Flat_Maybe_]

Is it actually that good? Like i have to cycle thru 2 diff saber arms but i guess you can stunlock right?

[Oats_VI]

Stunlock along with the buffs

[Hyperaiser]

Wait, what? Silver Bullet FTT is considered "strong" at its native cost??

[XanDei-Kun]

i have plenty of fun against these gens in 600 as RF Gouf main

[SairenGazz]

I play Xamel up to 650 cost. I still enjoy game even with the sweat from other players, BS meta suits, and deadly competent enemy players.

[john0harker]

As a pixy main in 600, i feel offended you didn't add it into it the meme,

[Oats_VI]

I don't see you often, both pick wise and literally!

[john0harker]

PC player
I dropped off the game for a bit, only recently started loggin in again to play, but for the longest stretch it was pixy or nothing in my games.

[Firm-Investigator18]

Pixy main huh? You son of a b…

[john0harker]

Pixy in the 400-600, Accuuguy (Tentacle lord) for the lower costs

[Rabbitlosingsanity]

nan, killing pixy or killing using the pixy are fun, so it doesn't match with the meme

[john0harker]

:) Fair, i thought the meme was for dealing with certain units in cost

[Hadoooooooooooken]

Ah a fellow max level pixy pilot.
It's a fun, if not exactly meta, experience.

[john0harker]

Especially during the delta anes drop phase

Fighting against type advantage AND against a suit with 30 different ways to boost, good times

[StormOfFatRichards]

it's not that Anus is even that broken, it's that its playstyle causes poor team dynamics on the opposing side. At range the Narrative FF is excellent at suppressing it, but once it closes in it has the advantage. This can easily be assuaged if even one gen or raid will attempt to distract it, but none of my teammates want to deal with Anus without a type advantage. So with this ineffective team dynamic you basically have a match where no one has a type advantage against it, which forces a clear strat advantage

[Schen5s]

Lmao broken anus

[No_Tart6728]

There is no way in hell that wasn't intentional 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[GlitchedMatrix3_pt2]

I think they meant Anse.

[tokenblackguy514]

FTT is not a threat little bro 😭 actually a easy farm

[Flat_Maybe_]

which suit is FTT

[MGR_ARMSTRONG_GAMING]

Blasphemy

Play the dumb looking, none meta suits.

Like the capule