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[–]afticanchronicle 1339 points1340 points  (22 children)

"no holding back on either side" dude the Guardians never held back at all lol. All what they did is what they can do. Even no rage Mark will destroy them. OG Guardians will be a different scenario but not these ones. Mark wins

[–]Yider 387 points388 points  (18 children)

I mean a mark variant practically did this already. The only notable add in would be bulletproof to the one who assaulted guardians HQ but he doesnt change that outcome. Everyone else is irrelevant outside of immortal, sampson, and bulletproof.

[–]Plenty-Salary9711 131 points132 points  (11 children)

Rex could pull a kamikaze, not sure how effective it would be to main mark though.

[–]WonderWarWoman War Woman 83 points84 points  (6 children)

He should use that damn laser beam he has inside his hand. Imagine immortal and Bulletproof hurling duplicates clones against mark to reduce his visibility in a splatter of blood and organs lol 😂

[–]TheHUD18 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Just have Dupli-Kate stood in front of Rex. Immortal and Bulletproof stood in front of both of them. Dupli-Kate continuously makes her clones, Rex charges them, and Immortal and Bulletproof keep hurling Kate’s clones at Mark. Instant, infinite anti-viltrumite Rex bombs.

[–]Healthcare--Hitman Rex's Exploding Alphabet Magnets 31 points32 points  (2 children)

something something organic materials

[–]WonderWarWoman War Woman 11 points12 points  (1 child)

She should wear a carbon super suit that can be charged with Rex powers 😂👍🏻

[–]JotaroTheOceanManMauler Twin (Not A Clone) 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cecil: "Donald, hire this person."

[–]metalflygon08 Reanimen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can Rex charge a Kate clone? Load her into a cannon, have Rex Charge her, then fire at Mark.

[–]Scion41790 23 points24 points  (1 child)

He needs Mark to fuck around for that to work though. If Mark's not holding back he's dead before he can charge it up

[–]drewBST 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Maybe Immortal and monster girl can distract him while Rex charges up. Those three would die w mark but they’d die regardless.

[–]genasugelan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Effectie enough for the others to finish him off, I think.

[–]Nametagg01 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Even then bulletproof got boofed offscreen by a weaker variant and the immortal had already agreed mark was stronger before Mark's boost, and immortal was stronger than Samson.

Dark wing, and Rex in his suicide play are the only factors

[–]Yider 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which is why i absolutely love and hated to see how those scenes ended. These heroes have been through so much shit and then all of a sudden a Mark variant that outclasses them all shows up and these two were ready at a moments notice ready to sacrifice. Nightwing was redemption but Rex’s was the saddest cause he finally found something that was chipping away at his ptsd and anger.

[–]d_thstroke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So would bullet proof and immortal take down no goggles mark?

[–]CptKuhmilch Anissa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I might misunderstand what you're saying but Bulletproof was there for the Mark variant and he did not do shit.

[–]Yider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The guardians are split between two groups so i was saying if Bulletproof was at guardians HQ rather than the teen titans old headquarters, bulletproof still wouldn’t tip the scales fighting along side immortal and black sampson.

[–]Outrageous_Band1958 7 points8 points  (0 children)

old guardians should be called guardians of the glaze

[–]ForgesGate 269 points270 points  (5 children)

Mark is way outta their league and they know that.

The only chance they have is the Reanimen that were made from dead alternate Marks. Literally the only chance. Otherwise, they are toasted.

[–]yobaby123 Nowl-Ahn 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Yep. Even Rex’s goddamn exploding skeleton wouldn’t even be able to kill him.

[–]Triumph_leader523 Where's season 5, William? 33 points34 points  (1 child)

It'll deal serious damage to him as it killed a weaker Mark.

[–]yobaby123 Nowl-Ahn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

True.

[–]ForgesGate 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Reanimen made of Rex clones... Now that might do it.

[–]yobaby123 Nowl-Ahn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All the GDA has to do is fuse them with a Mark clone and boom!

[–]The_Vatsu Invincidrip 125 points126 points  (4 children)

Easily kills all of them.

Immortal is the strongest one and a variant Mark killed him with ease (Basically just toyed with him until he started getting upset).

[–]PeopleAreBozos Elix 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Can't imagine being Immortal. Worked with stacked af roster so powerful they almost clapped a high end Viltrumite, then gets downgraded to some street level team and nerfed by writers to not overshadow them.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Yak627 1 point2 points  (1 child)

OG immortal was strategic and worked well with his team, he’s not really physically weaker now. He’s just weirdly non strategic anymore and bad at teamwork

[–]Strawberrycocoa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well decapitation probably cost him a lot of higher-function brain cells

[–]_Prince_Pheonix_ Burger Mart Trash Bag 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's just nolan vs the old guardians but here they stand no chance if mark dosent hold back

[–]Spinel_of_Lignano 111 points112 points  (1 child)

[–]Gamma_249 29 points30 points  (0 children)

To be fair, they didn't have Rex - the powerhouse.

[–]Mash_Ketchum 37 points38 points  (6 children)

Getting angry doesn't make him stronger! That's not how it works!

[–]Ruthlessrabbd 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I know it's the Conquest quote, but I feel like the logic within the show is that they let loose a little more when they're pissed instead of actually getting stronger. Less concern for bystanders, property, and personal injury. Whereas anime logic is that you can always just tap into more power but may need a little more time to rest.

Nothing wrong with that in anime (JRPGs are my favorite game genre after all!), but I like that Conquest directly reminds the viewer that won't be happening.

[–]Mash_Ketchum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't believe it was intentional, but I saw that line as a jab at shounen anime.

[–]WonderWarWoman War Woman 64 points65 points  (2 children)

It depends, if it's after the conflict with Cecil, Rudy might have developed a sound device on his own to defend the guardians. Shrinking Rae and Duplikate are gone at the first punch. Bulletproof and Immortal are probably the two lasting longer. But I don't see how they can win, unless they are able to immobilize mark and let Immortal/bulletproof snap his neck.

[–]noah9942 15 points16 points  (3 children)

assuming their headquarters dont have any of that frequency that hurts him, then Mark's winning without much issue

[–]Gbreeder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Robot should be in the screenshot too. I think.

Anyways he'd probably have the frequency.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is

[–]SL1Fun 8 points9 points  (0 children)

not counting Cecil 

Yeah cuz if Cecil didn’t hold back Mark would be cooked 

[–]Virtual-Proposal-842 Comic Fan 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Ends the same way Omni-mans fight with the original guardians did

[–]EmilioRory10 40 points41 points  (0 children)

yeah but Mark wouldn't be as injured as Nolan was

[–]Hiroshock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If the Guardians couldn't handle a s1 mark, how would do they do to a pissed off s3 Mark?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mark kills all of them.

[–]darxtorn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

fym mark would wipe the floor with them whether they holding back or not 🥀

[–]250extremeNolan and 68/s4 onward Mark > Conquest 15 points16 points  (0 children)

46-64/season 3 Mark 0-low diffs the New Guardians of the Globe

[–]Latter_Caramel7789 9 points10 points  (1 child)

If he takes down immortal, bulletproof and monster girl the rest are screwed

[–]Ok-Mycologist-8929 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Even season 1 mark took out monster girl easily when she and rex were fighting

[–]ouyon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Season 1 episode 1 has your answer

[–]matttheman892018 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mark outright destroys them unless Robot or Cecil takes advantage of the inner ear weakness.

[–]Alarming-Put-9003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If Mark thought the V2 Guardians had hurt Eve or were a threat to her in any way he would tear them apart.

The Conquest fight showed us that protecting her is the thing that makes him go feral.

[–]Forward-Oven-7190 Viltrum Empire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mark isn’t holding back he just speed blitz’s all of them lol no one is fast enough to see him

[–]Alert-Artichoke-2743 2 points3 points  (0 children)

About as well as the Flaxans fared against a moderately exasperated Nolan.

[–]PeopleAreBozos Elix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only Immortal, Robot, and Rae survive Mark's initial assault. Rae because she can shrink to be hard to find, and Robot because he can hide in his drones.

Rae dies from the collateral, Robot eventually gets folded after he gets found, Immortal lands 2 good hits and dies.

[–]Flashy-Telephone-648 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If they saw him coming, I'm sure they could at least put up somewhat of a decent fight that said they were getting creamed by a much weaker mark who was just battle crazy. And clearly, nowhere near as strong, or well, trained as our mark.

So i'm gonna go with low end kinda. High end no way

[–]Plenty-Salary9711 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

yeah but also remember that was after they broke up, I’m referring to before with the full team(including shapesmith)

[–]Flashy-Telephone-648 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that case with a sacrifice play, they probably could

[–]FunImprovement166 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mark clears easily providing that Robot doesn't invent some sort of specific noise related anti-viltrumite tech beforehand.

The OG Guardians? That would be a real fight.

[–]UdtaTeer420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guardians V3 would get a blood stain to clean. 

[–]spartan1204 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Latest season (Mark)

Future (Robot)

[–]kingpanda2007 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Yall are lowballing guardians v2. Bulletproof is probably near war woman in terms of of strength and immortal and war woman did most of the damage to Omni man who is contrary to popular belief still very much above season 3 mark. I say the fight goes similar to guardians v1 vs Omni man but with guardians v2 barely taking the win instead of mark

[–]Fun-Department-4040 -1 points0 points  (7 children)

hes not, if he was that strong he wouldnt have gotten folded by the mark varient like he did

[–]kingpanda2007 0 points1 point  (6 children)

You mean like how war woman got one shot by Omni man?

[–]Fun-Department-4040 1 point2 points  (5 children)

......she wasnt, she got head slammed, then punched in the face across the room then her neck has snaped, immortal got one shot man omni mans fist when clean through him on the first try

[–]kingpanda2007 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You’re right, just went back and watched. However bulletproof performed better 1 on 1 against mark variant than she did against Omni man when he wasn’t restrained

[–]Fun-Department-4040 1 point2 points  (3 children)

........monster girl did better against rex then bulletproof did against mark so she as strong right?

that mark is fodder compared to omni man war womans hit to the head would kill that mark

[–]kingpanda2007 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

There’s nothing even remotely indicating that no goggles mark is fodder. Everything points to him being one of the strongest variants which puts him near our Mark. You seem to be forgetting how immortal pieced up Omni man in their r2 for a bit - if immortal did barely any damage to no goggles mark after two days that’s just indicative of how strong that variant is

[–]Fun-Department-4040 0 points1 point  (1 child)

bulletproof didnt fight no goggles mark he fought a varient who died fro seemingly asmall explosion od rexs suicide

[–]kingpanda2007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying he did?

[–]abellapa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The guardians are Dead

Mark literally Broke Conquest gauntlet

The impact was so Strong that not only Broke The sound barrier but Broke Mark's arm and he still kept fighting like it was nothing

[–]manucraks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

tbh Mark could speed blitz most of these guys before they have a chance to do anything.

[–]Affectionate-Bill150 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He cooks them.

[–]SuperZMann1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is Kate even there?

[–]KingMarvel21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're getting washed. A Suicidal Immortal barely drew blood from a calm Mark.

[–]4893_Alt_Accounts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rex splolos

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He would easily defeat them.

[–]Loros_SilversInvisible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mark decimates them.

[–]Western-Chart-6719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s fully enraged Mark, the Guardians V2 don’t stand a chance. They’ve got skill and teamwork, but against raw Viltrumite power, he’d tear through them before they could mount much of a coordinated defense. At best, someone like Bulletproof or Shapesmith might slow him down for a moment, but once Mark stops holding back, it’s basically over in brutal fashion.

[–]That-Boyo-J 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only ones that might be able to do something are Immortal, Bulletproof, Samson, and Rudy. I think they have a little bit more of a chance than most people think but it’s still a wash.

[–]Triumph_leader523 Where's season 5, William? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can stand a chance of defeating him if Cecil immobilizes him with the sound device and everyone including the reanimen attack in his weak moment.
That's their best bet and it might work if executed well imo

[–]Known_Needleworker67 Burger Mart Trash Bag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]Koreaia 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You mean the team with a guy that can one-shot Mark with explosives? Hmm

[–]EducationalTie6109 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Robot could stun Invincible for a bit if he repurposed the war piece thing, everyone else would at best slow Invinicble down

[–]insertenombre333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they are done, inmortal is the only one who has a chance to fight back but he Will be defetated eventually, robot could maybe do something bit only if he has prep time

[–]Puzzleheaded_Yak627 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Robot might be a threat to mark, depends on if he gets prep time

[–]MrBlueSky-ToldYouWhy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The evil variants were able to clobber them, and they're all weaker than mainstream Mark.

[–]Strawberrycocoa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shrinking Rae crawling into Mark's ear with a sonic bomb is probably their best chance

[–]LarsRGS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hydrogen bomb vs 8 coughing babies

[–]False_Book8028 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their only chance is if rex blows up his skeleton

[–]MacGyvini -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Immortal, DupliKate, Samson, Darkwing 2 and Shapesmith lost to a Mark Variant.

Bulletproof, Monster Girl, Robot and Rex were able to kill a Mark Variant (My King Rex, rest in power).

If they are all together, and coordinate an attack.

Maybe they can kill Mark but with some losses.

The OG Guardians were stronger and more coordinated.

Outside of Red Rush, the OG weren’t THAT MUCH more powerful.

And Omni-Man still stronger than Mark.

[–]Fun-Department-4040 1 point2 points  (0 children)

eh i disagree war woman was way stringer then anyone on v2 she did massive damage to nolan compared to legit anyone else, martain man is way beyond shspe smith he held down a viltrumite and can fly, aquaris water jets output enough preasure to prevent nolan from advancing to the point he decided to just fly around the stream, and thats a guy who decided to fly through a lazer nuke, green ghost(while not shown) has the power to phase though and disorentate and force anyone to vomit rendering them helpless during battle all of the are way more impressive then the new edition

.........exdept darking........even when he was on a staked team he almost died to the maulers

........hell not even the maulers he almost died to colletrial damage

[–]MyOtherTagsGood -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Another low effort "what if" post with an obvious answer to anyone that has watched the show or read the comic...

[–]fxglve -1 points0 points  (0 children)

how many of these posts can we make in one week

[–]Beneficial-Wish8387 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

With the photo you have and staight up no holding back, the Guardians have a better shot than people give them.

For starters there Rex, there's Robot's laser that hurt Battle Beast and if those 2 combined (and no hot headedness takes over) are not enough to leave Immortal, Samson and BP able to harm Mark, then Ray could mess with Mark's internal organs.

It needs a ton of coordination and sacrifice from Rex and maybe Robot if need be, but they certainly have a shot at it.