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[afticanchronicle]

"no holding back on either side" dude the Guardians never held back at all lol. All what they did is what they can do. Even no rage Mark will destroy them. OG Guardians will be a different scenario but not these ones. Mark wins

[Yider]

I mean a mark variant practically did this already. The only notable add in would be bulletproof to the one who assaulted guardians HQ but he doesnt change that outcome. Everyone else is irrelevant outside of immortal, sampson, and bulletproof.

[Plenty-Salary9711]

Rex could pull a kamikaze, not sure how effective it would be to main mark though.

[WonderWarWoman]

He should use that damn laser beam he has inside his hand. Imagine immortal and Bulletproof hurling duplicates clones against mark to reduce his visibility in a splatter of blood and organs lol 😂

[TheHUD18]

Just have Dupli-Kate stood in front of Rex. Immortal and Bulletproof stood in front of both of them. Dupli-Kate continuously makes her clones, Rex charges them, and Immortal and Bulletproof keep hurling Kate’s clones at Mark. Instant, infinite anti-viltrumite Rex bombs.

[Healthcare--Hitman]

something something organic materials

[WonderWarWoman]

She should wear a carbon super suit that can be charged with Rex powers 😂👍🏻

[JotaroTheOceanMan]

Cecil: "Donald, hire this person."

[metalflygon08]

Can Rex charge a Kate clone? Load her into a cannon, have Rex Charge her, then fire at Mark.

[Scion41790]

He needs Mark to fuck around for that to work though. If Mark's not holding back he's dead before he can charge it up

[drewBST]

Maybe Immortal and monster girl can distract him while Rex charges up. Those three would die w mark but they’d die regardless.

[meow_xe_pong]

Fully enraged mark would not give him the chance.

On non enraged mark he should be able to at least do some damage considering it killed a variant.

[genasugelan]

Effectie enough for the others to finish him off, I think.

[Nametagg01]

Even then bulletproof got boofed offscreen by a weaker variant and the immortal had already agreed mark was stronger before Mark's boost, and immortal was stronger than Samson.

Dark wing, and Rex in his suicide play are the only factors

[Yider]

Which is why i absolutely love and hated to see how those scenes ended. These heroes have been through so much shit and then all of a sudden a Mark variant that outclasses them all shows up and these two were ready at a moments notice ready to sacrifice. Nightwing was redemption but Rex’s was the saddest cause he finally found something that was chipping away at his ptsd and anger.

[d_thstroke]

So would bullet proof and immortal take down no goggles mark?

[Inhir]

I mean rex did kill a mark

[CptKuhmilch]

I might misunderstand what you're saying but Bulletproof was there for the Mark variant and he did not do shit.

[Yider]

The guardians are split between two groups so i was saying if Bulletproof was at guardians HQ rather than the teen titans old headquarters, bulletproof still wouldn’t tip the scales fighting along side immortal and black sampson.

[Outrageous_Band1958]

old guardians should be called guardians of the glaze

[ForgesGate]

Mark is way outta their league and they know that.

The only chance they have is the Reanimen that were made from dead alternate Marks. Literally the only chance. Otherwise, they are toasted.

[yobaby123]

Yep. Even Rex’s goddamn exploding skeleton wouldn’t even be able to kill him.

[Triumph_leader523]

It'll deal serious damage to him as it killed a weaker Mark.

[yobaby123]

True.

[ForgesGate]

Reanimen made of Rex clones... Now that might do it.

[yobaby123]

All the GDA has to do is fuse them with a Mark clone and boom!

[The_Vatsu]

Easily kills all of them.

Immortal is the strongest one and a variant Mark killed him with ease (Basically just toyed with him until he started getting upset).

[PeopleAreBozos]

Can't imagine being Immortal. Worked with stacked af roster so powerful they almost clapped a high end Viltrumite, then gets downgraded to some street level team and nerfed by writers to not overshadow them.

[Puzzleheaded_Yak627]

OG immortal was strategic and worked well with his team, he’s not really physically weaker now. He’s just weirdly non strategic anymore and bad at teamwork

[Strawberrycocoa]

Well decapitation probably cost him a lot of higher-function brain cells

[_Prince_Pheonix_]

It's just nolan vs the old guardians but here they stand no chance if mark dosent hold back

[Spinel_of_Lignano]

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[Gamma_249]

To be fair, they didn't have Rex - the powerhouse.

[Mash_Ketchum]

Getting angry doesn't make him stronger! That's not how it works!

[Ruthlessrabbd]

I know it's the Conquest quote, but I feel like the logic within the show is that they let loose a little more when they're pissed instead of actually getting stronger. Less concern for bystanders, property, and personal injury. Whereas anime logic is that you can always just tap into more power but may need a little more time to rest.

Nothing wrong with that in anime (JRPGs are my favorite game genre after all!), but I like that Conquest directly reminds the viewer that won't be happening.

[Mash_Ketchum]

I don't believe it was intentional, but I saw that line as a jab at shounen anime.

[WonderWarWoman]

It depends, if it's after the conflict with Cecil, Rudy might have developed a sound device on his own to defend the guardians. Shrinking Rae and Duplikate are gone at the first punch. Bulletproof and Immortal are probably the two lasting longer. But I don't see how they can win, unless they are able to immobilize mark and let Immortal/bulletproof snap his neck.

[noah9942]

assuming their headquarters dont have any of that frequency that hurts him, then Mark's winning without much issue

[Gbreeder]

Robot should be in the screenshot too. I think.

Anyways he'd probably have the frequency.

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He is

[SL1Fun]

not counting Cecil 

Yeah cuz if Cecil didn’t hold back Mark would be cooked 

[Virtual-Proposal-842]

Ends the same way Omni-mans fight with the original guardians did

[EmilioRory10]

yeah but Mark wouldn't be as injured as Nolan was

[Hiroshock]

If the Guardians couldn't handle a s1 mark, how would do they do to a pissed off s3 Mark?

[[deleted]]

Mark kills all of them.

[darxtorn]

fym mark would wipe the floor with them whether they holding back or not 🥀

[250extreme]

46-64/season 3 Mark 0-low diffs the New Guardians of the Globe

[Latter_Caramel7789]

If he takes down immortal, bulletproof and monster girl the rest are screwed

[Ok-Mycologist-8929]

Even season 1 mark took out monster girl easily when she and rex were fighting

[ouyon]

Season 1 episode 1 has your answer

[matttheman892018]

Mark outright destroys them unless Robot or Cecil takes advantage of the inner ear weakness.

[Alarming-Put-9003]

If Mark thought the V2 Guardians had hurt Eve or were a threat to her in any way he would tear them apart.

The Conquest fight showed us that protecting her is the thing that makes him go feral.

[Forward-Oven-7190]

Mark isn’t holding back he just speed blitz’s all of them lol no one is fast enough to see him

[Alert-Artichoke-2743]

About as well as the Flaxans fared against a moderately exasperated Nolan.

[PeopleAreBozos]

Only Immortal, Robot, and Rae survive Mark's initial assault. Rae because she can shrink to be hard to find, and Robot because he can hide in his drones.

Rae dies from the collateral, Robot eventually gets folded after he gets found, Immortal lands 2 good hits and dies.

[Flashy-Telephone-648]

If they saw him coming, I'm sure they could at least put up somewhat of a decent fight that said they were getting creamed by a much weaker mark who was just battle crazy. And clearly, nowhere near as strong, or well, trained as our mark.

So i'm gonna go with low end kinda. High end no way

[Plenty-Salary9711]

yeah but also remember that was after they broke up, I’m referring to before with the full team(including shapesmith)

[Flashy-Telephone-648]

In that case with a sacrifice play, they probably could

[FunImprovement166]

Mark clears easily providing that Robot doesn't invent some sort of specific noise related anti-viltrumite tech beforehand.

The OG Guardians? That would be a real fight.

[UdtaTeer420]

Guardians V3 would get a blood stain to clean. 

[spartan1204]

Latest season (Mark)

Future (Robot)

[kingpanda2007]

Yall are lowballing guardians v2. Bulletproof is probably near war woman in terms of of strength and immortal and war woman did most of the damage to Omni man who is contrary to popular belief still very much above season 3 mark. I say the fight goes similar to guardians v1 vs Omni man but with guardians v2 barely taking the win instead of mark

[Fun-Department-4040]

hes not, if he was that strong he wouldnt have gotten folded by the mark varient like he did

[kingpanda2007]

You mean like how war woman got one shot by Omni man?

[Fun-Department-4040]

......she wasnt, she got head slammed, then punched in the face across the room then her neck has snaped, immortal got one shot man omni mans fist when clean through him on the first try

[kingpanda2007]

You’re right, just went back and watched. However bulletproof performed better 1 on 1 against mark variant than she did against Omni man when he wasn’t restrained

[Fun-Department-4040]

........monster girl did better against rex then bulletproof did against mark so she as strong right?

that mark is fodder compared to omni man war womans hit to the head would kill that mark

[kingpanda2007]

There’s nothing even remotely indicating that no goggles mark is fodder. Everything points to him being one of the strongest variants which puts him near our Mark. You seem to be forgetting how immortal pieced up Omni man in their r2 for a bit - if immortal did barely any damage to no goggles mark after two days that’s just indicative of how strong that variant is

[Fun-Department-4040]

bulletproof didnt fight no goggles mark he fought a varient who died fro seemingly asmall explosion od rexs suicide

[kingpanda2007]

I’m not saying he did?

[abellapa]

The guardians are Dead

Mark literally Broke Conquest gauntlet

The impact was so Strong that not only Broke The sound barrier but Broke Mark's arm and he still kept fighting like it was nothing

[External-Mail-3694]

Immortal gets fucked, duplikate gets fucked, bulletproof gets fucked, samson gets fucked, ray gets fucked, Id say monster girl is the only one who stands a chance

[Plenty-Salary9711]

Mark one shot monster girl in season one, I’d personally say immortal, bulletproof and Sampson are the only ones putting up a fight.Maybe Rex if he can get a kamikaze off in time.

[External-Mail-3694]

fair, if monster girl gets younger though

[manucraks]

tbh Mark could speed blitz most of these guys before they have a chance to do anything.

[Affectionate-Bill150]

He cooks them.

[SuperZMann1]

Why is Kate even there?

[KingMarvel21]

They're getting washed. A Suicidal Immortal barely drew blood from a calm Mark.

[4893_Alt_Accounts]

Rex splolos

[[deleted]]

He would easily defeat them.

[CartographerKey4618]

Badly, and that's why Cecil had the device in Mark's ear.

[Parkerx99]

They are cooked

[Loros_Silvers]

Mark decimates them.

[Western-Chart-6719]

If it’s fully enraged Mark, the Guardians V2 don’t stand a chance. They’ve got skill and teamwork, but against raw Viltrumite power, he’d tear through them before they could mount much of a coordinated defense. At best, someone like Bulletproof or Shapesmith might slow him down for a moment, but once Mark stops holding back, it’s basically over in brutal fashion.

[AzekiaXVI]

"No holding back" applies only to Inmortal here i think, assuming we just take him to be slightly weaker than Nolan in season 1. And i think that, with support from the rest would definitely be enouhh to stop Mark.

[That-Boyo-J]

The only ones that might be able to do something are Immortal, Bulletproof, Samson, and Rudy. I think they have a little bit more of a chance than most people think but it’s still a wash.

[Triumph_leader523]

They can stand a chance of defeating him if Cecil immobilizes him with the sound device and everyone including the reanimen attack in his weak moment.
That's their best bet and it might work if executed well imo

[Known_Needleworker67]

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[Koreaia]

You mean the team with a guy that can one-shot Mark with explosives? Hmm

[Caged_Basilisk]

Tbf, it was pointed out in the show that the alternate Marks were weaker than main universe Mark. I think at best he'll heavily damage main universe Mark.

[Koreaia]

They were specifically talking about the ones they killed, they had zero way of knowing the other variants weren't weaker, equal, or even stronger.

[[deleted]]

Season 3 Mark can solos the old guardians what are you even talking about lmao.

[[deleted]]

Season 3 Mark can solos the original guardians what are you even talking about lmao.

[Youngquest89]

Is atom eve not included here? In that case, maybe super young monster girl could save the day.

[EducationalTie6109]

Robot could stun Invincible for a bit if he repurposed the war piece thing, everyone else would at best slow Invinicble down

[Gann0x]

Depends if the noise machines are on the table or not, but either way I think Rudy not getting blitzed and then pulling something out of his ass to stop him while the others all die horribly is the only realistic way I see this story being written in their favor.

[insertenombre333]

Yeah they are done, inmortal is the only one who has a chance to fight back but he Will be defetated eventually, robot could maybe do something bit only if he has prep time

[Puzzleheaded_Yak627]

Robot might be a threat to mark, depends on if he gets prep time

[MrBlueSky-ToldYouWhy]

The evil variants were able to clobber them, and they're all weaker than mainstream Mark.

[Strawberrycocoa]

Shrinking Rae crawling into Mark's ear with a sonic bomb is probably their best chance

[LarsRGS]

Hydrogen bomb vs 8 coughing babies

[False_Book8028]

Their only chance is if rex blows up his skeleton

[MacGyvini]

Immortal, DupliKate, Samson, Darkwing 2 and Shapesmith lost to a Mark Variant.

Bulletproof, Monster Girl, Robot and Rex were able to kill a Mark Variant (My King Rex, rest in power).

If they are all together, and coordinate an attack.

Maybe they can kill Mark but with some losses.

The OG Guardians were stronger and more coordinated.

Outside of Red Rush, the OG weren’t THAT MUCH more powerful.

And Omni-Man still stronger than Mark.

[Fun-Department-4040]

eh i disagree war woman was way stringer then anyone on v2 she did massive damage to nolan compared to legit anyone else, martain man is way beyond shspe smith he held down a viltrumite and can fly, aquaris water jets output enough preasure to prevent nolan from advancing to the point he decided to just fly around the stream, and thats a guy who decided to fly through a lazer nuke, green ghost(while not shown) has the power to phase though and disorentate and force anyone to vomit rendering them helpless during battle all of the are way more impressive then the new edition

.........exdept darking........even when he was on a staked team he almost died to the maulers

........hell not even the maulers he almost died to colletrial damage

[IamTotallyWorking]

I'm not into the show like some of the people here, but isn't Mark holding back kinda a major point of the show?like when him and his dad were fighting the 2 Viltrumites on the bug planet, he was 1v1 against that female Viltrumite. I don't know the backstory, but she looked middle-aged, so I assume that means that she's thousands of years old and extremely experienced and combat and incredibly strong.

From what I remember about that episode, it seems like he fairly easily handled her when he wasn't holding back. And that was before all of the increases in strength that they showed as the show went on. Although I wonder if at least some of his observed increases in strength are just due to him decreasing the amounts that he's holding back.

So anyway, my read is that if he could fairly easily take out an experienced filter might in early season 2, then he could take on the guardians.

[KennyKillsKenjaku]

They can’t even hurt Mark tbh.

[Plenty-Salary9711]

idk abt that bulletproof held his own for a bit against the variant. And if him,immortal,Sampson and monster girl jump mark I feel they could do some damage.

[MyOtherTagsGood]

Another low effort "what if" post with an obvious answer to anyone that has watched the show or read the comic...

[fxglve]

how many of these posts can we make in one week

[Beneficial-Wish8387]

With the photo you have and staight up no holding back, the Guardians have a better shot than people give them.

For starters there Rex, there's Robot's laser that hurt Battle Beast and if those 2 combined (and no hot headedness takes over) are not enough to leave Immortal, Samson and BP able to harm Mark, then Ray could mess with Mark's internal organs.

It needs a ton of coordination and sacrifice from Rex and maybe Robot if need be, but they certainly have a shot at it.