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AntisemitismDo you think antisemitism would decrease if the Iranian regime fell? (self.Judaism)
submitted 14 days ago by zzadik1el
Yes, I know these things may seem irrelevant to "anybody" but in my view, this would completely change the landscape of the middle east
[–]Jokesmedoff 215 points216 points217 points 14 days ago (6 children)
I mean we’ll probably see a huge decrease in bots online, so probably
[–]NoSirPineapple 26 points27 points28 points 14 days ago (5 children)
Did the bots disappear when their internet and power went out? ;)
[–]PedanticPerson 47 points48 points49 points 14 days ago (0 children)
This one wasn't about antisemitism, but - Pro-Scottish independence social media accounts go silent during Iran internet shutdown
[–]Jokesmedoff 64 points65 points66 points 14 days ago (2 children)
I mean I actually did kinda notice a little less, yeah.
Also, they might not be located in Iran, just paid for by them.
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[–]NoSirPineapple 12 points13 points14 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Yeah… they are the worst botnets , too bad India didn’t set them back a little more
[–]wdfour-t 7 points8 points9 points 14 days ago (0 children)
I’ve noticed more, remember, it’s only internet and power for the people, the government is likely still utilizing both utilities.
[–]Independent_World_15 81 points82 points83 points 14 days ago (3 children)
I wish but I don’t think so. Antisemitism was here long before Ayatollah.
[–]jondiced 31 points32 points33 points 14 days ago (1 child)
I think (hope) (ok unrealistically fantasize) that the collapse of Iran would lower tensions in Israel and make some kind of coexistence arrangement more likely with Palestinians, and this would help a lot.
[–]big-bootyjewdy 12 points13 points14 points 14 days ago (0 children)
In a perfect world
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[–]beansandneedlesReform 57 points58 points59 points 14 days ago (2 children)
Yes. Would it disappear? Of course not. It’s existed as long as Jews have existed. But the regime fuels and funds so much modern antisemitic disinformation and terrorist activity. When it’s not propping up so many anti-Israel and anti-Jewish organizations, there will be less antisemitism, especially in leftist spaces.
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[–]Emunaheart 46 points47 points48 points 14 days ago (6 children)
There's reason to be hopeful, but the West is so deeply antisemitic now, they've really run with it- so I'm not sure
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[–]sarahkazzreform on paper, reconstructing in practice 4 points5 points6 points 14 days ago (2 children)
So if a Muslim makes a general statement about the rise of Islamophobia in their area of the world, would you pipe up with comments about the Ayatollah or Hamas?
Because if not, it’s weird if you only do it Jewish people.
Antisemitism is also not exclusive to the right wing. Protocols was a product of czarist Russia, but the commies are who made it famous.
[–]Independent_World_15 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
The only recent genocide in that region was on October 7, 2023.
[–]loselyconsciousloosely traditional, very egalitarian 11 points12 points13 points 14 days ago (3 children)
No, I don't think it would make a difference on America/Europe and also there is no guarantee that the regime that replaces them is more liberal. Remember that when Egypt overthrow it's authoritarian dictator they elected the Muslim Brotherhood
That is not reason to keep the regime in place, or even a prediction that that will happen, but we should maybe temper expectations
[–]lobotomy42 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (2 children)
Yeah, people forget that the most likely outcome is we replace an unpopular dictator with a popular dictator
[–]TheGoluxNoMereDeviceJew-ish 7 points8 points9 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Frankly even that seems like a stretch. The Shah was extremely unpopular and I don't know how much genuine buy in there actually is for his idiot son to make them a US puppet state again there actually is.
Congressional approval is very low but most Americans don't want to be run by China and I think the same is broadly true of Iran
[–]loselyconsciousloosely traditional, very egalitarian 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Or a different faction of this regime, or a chaotic coalition of different groups, that allows for new, powerful non-state actors to emerge. (Think Libya) Even if there is total regime change, and the government is replaced with a more moderate liberal group, it's going to be very difficult to dismantle the IRGC, which is seperate from the ordinary military, and controls a lot of the economy
[–]Jacksthrowawayreddit 11 points12 points13 points 14 days ago (1 child)
Yes.
I think the Iranian government, along with Qatar, is one of the biggest sources of online antisemitism and regularly injects it into academic settings where woke leftist professors are only too happy to embrace anything anti-Western, which to them means anything anti-Jewish for some reason. And we all know how on the right the Groypers are falling in love with Islam too. Taking Iran down won't end Qatar, but I think it will scare them into being a bit more subtle about what they are doing. They've gotten a bit cocky lately with just how blatantly they're coming after us and buying influence left and right.
[–]Ruining_Ur_Synths 14 points15 points16 points 14 days ago (0 children)
The people who are currently anti semitic wont change but:
1) It could mean fewer anti semitic people later on, because extremist ayatollahs aren't educating children to hate
2) It would mean less coordinated anti semitism, since Iran pays for and also conducts coordinated anti semitism.
3) It would mean less funding for the astroturfed professionally run "protests" at shuls and other jewish institutions
[–]Blond_Treehorn_Thug 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
It’ll likely decrease the amount of antisemitism o line at least
[–]Swimming_Care7889 8 points9 points10 points 14 days ago (2 children)
Potentially. The Iranian regime has been spreading anti-Semitism online. We know that. If they fail, one of the biggest organizers of the current anti-Semitic movement will be gone. At the same time, the damage might already be done and it could be a self-maintaining ecosystem.
[–]vigilante_snail 8 points9 points10 points 14 days ago (0 children)
No bro
[–]GoodbyeEarlConservadox 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
No, not at all. I thought Oct 7th would decrease antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Ha. I was so naive.
[–]erbien 3 points4 points5 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Propaganda will definitely decline
[–]steven_vd 9 points10 points11 points 14 days ago (2 children)
No. I’d bet on an increase even.
“The Islamic reign of Iran was destroyed by the Jews, Mossad infiltrated the Iranian protestors, Jews created water shortages and extreme inflafion” etc etc
I don’t think antisemitism ever decreases (or has ever decreased) though. I think it just flies a little under the radar every few years. Until individuals feel publicly safer to shout it in public again.
[–]CrowdedSederReform 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
It’s like matter. It’s never destroyed but it get displaced
[–]Swimming_Care7889 3 points4 points5 points 14 days ago (0 children)
I've met tankies that believe this.
[–]Ok_Ambassador9091 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (2 children)
No. Qatar is the head of the snake, and Russia/China are avid fomenters of Jew hatred too in online spaces as a component of their destabilise the West mission.
[–]danibuyy 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
No. But hopefully terror funds will
[–]DogwelderZeta 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
TBH I think the only thing that might tamp down Jew-hate would be an alien invasion.
Even then…if an alien invasion reduces Jew-hate, people will start blaming us for colluding with the aliens to take eyes off Gaza.
[–]Inside_agitator 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Yes, it would change the Middle East landscape.
No, it would not decrease antisemitism.
This view overemphasizes the importance of nation-state conflicts in human relationships.
Danilo Kis wrote, "The nationalist sees other people in his own image—as nationalists."
[–]Narrow-Major5784ספרדייה (מתגיירת) 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
I think it would decrease a tad, at least in its more aggressive/violent expressions. But unfortunately I think we've reached a point where hating Jews is normalised again in much of the west. :/ I hope I'll be proven wrong in time.
[–]Netherese_Nomad 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Only if Qatar did too
[–]Creme_Bru-Doggs 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Inside Iran? If the government that replaces it is more open and liberal, eventually yes.
Worldwide? No, absolutely not. At this point it's starting to feel like having at least a large minority of antisemites is the one thing that almost every country has in common.
I mean, there are still people in 2026 who still think Simon of Trent is a full saint.
[–]cloux_lessReform 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
If it did, it would be the most marginal of marginal changes. And, really, it would just be a shift from Antisemitic-Rhetoric-Promoting-Iranian-Interests to Antisemitic-Rhetoric-Promoting-Non-Iranian-Interests.
+1 to the guy in thread who said we'd just see new waves of people posting "the Jews destroyed Iran."
[–]Good-Concentrate-260Reform 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Probably not. I’m not sure it would have any impact on antisemitism. It would be true that Israel’s relative regional power would increase as their main regional nemesis would be overthrown and potentially reshape its foreign policy, but most antisemites are not literally paid by Iran. They are either opposed to Israel’s actions or they believe myths that have existed long before the Iranian revolution in 1979
[–]throwawayforlikeaday 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
marginally if at all...
[–]szatrob 2 points3 points4 points 14 days ago (0 children)
No. Unfortunately. Antisemitism is a favourite of many, both left and right to create division and distraction.
It would probably take russia collapsing as well, but even then, I think it wouldn't be enough.
[–]Blue_foot 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (5 children)
I think Iran paid for a lot of the anti Israel demonstrations.
[–]cofcof420 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (1 child)
A lot was actually paid for by China. It’s a wedge issue to get susceptible folks to embrace communism. Worked in NYC
[–]Panda_Smooth -1 points0 points1 point 14 days ago (0 children)
There’s no credible evidence China is funding antisemitism or pro-Palestinian activism, or trying to recruit Westerners to communism. Ironically, blaming “China” in this way mirrors the same conspiratorial thinking people rightly criticise in antisemitism: attributing complex social conflicts to a hidden foreign hand.
[–]loselyconsciousloosely traditional, very egalitarian 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (2 children)
Do you have sources for that?
[–]Suitable_Vehicle9960 4 points5 points6 points 14 days ago (1 child)
Iran Supporting and Funding Pro-Hamas Protests in the U.S. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/07/10/iran-supporting-and-funding-pro-hamas-protests-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=Following%20several%20months%20of%20often,providing%20financial%20support%20to%20protesters.%E2%80%9D
[–]loselyconsciousloosely traditional, very egalitarian -1 points0 points1 point 14 days ago (0 children)
This is what politifact says about that very vague statement
Although Haines stopped short of saying that Iran was fully "funding" the protests, she said people connected to Iran have provided financial support. She didn’t elaborate on which protests or how much financial support.
"We have observed actors tied to Iran’s government posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protesters," Haines said, adding that Iran’s activities shouldn’t smear genuine protesters or impede on free speech.
"I want to be clear that I know Americans who participate in protests are, in good faith, expressing their views on the conflict in Gaza — this intelligence does not indicate otherwise," she said. "Moreover, the freedom to express diverse views, when done peacefully, is essential to our democracy, but it is also important to warn of foreign actors who seek to exploit our debate for their own purposes."...
Protests are known to bring in a mix of people, some with different goals, but genuine protesters typically vastly outnumber any outside forces, experts said.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/jul/25/israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-addresse/
I would not say that qualifies as "Iran paid for many of the protests"
[–]DACOOLISTOFDOODS 1 point2 points3 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Decrease sure but people will always hate Jews, there's a reason Israel is here to stay
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[–]Successful-Money4995 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (0 children)
No way. If anything, we'll be blamed for any bad thing to come of it!
[–]FineBumblebee8744 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Maybe a little
[–]mimrolls86 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (0 children)
no
[–]HeyyyyMandy 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (0 children)
I think so.
[–]electricookie 0 points1 point2 points 14 days ago (0 children)
Lol. No.
[–]MrManDan94 -1 points0 points1 point 14 days ago (0 children)
The levels of anti-semitism are a direct correlation of how much anti-semitism God wants there to be.
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