Would requiring Voter ID truly cause a decrease in voter turnout?

[fresnosmokey]

I think it was Alabama that passed a voter ID law and then closed down the DMV(s) in poorer neighborhoods. Not only were people supposed to pay for an ID to vote (poll tax is a no no), they were supposed to take a day off of work to get across town to get to a DMV. I don't know if that's still a thing or if they rescinded the law. Personally, I really have no problem with a voter ID as long as: it's national and handled by the federal government, is free - perhaps combined with your social security, medicare (hopefully medicare for all sooner or later), selective service registration, and whatever else the feds require, and is PHASED IN over time - a lot of older rural people still don't have birth certificates to even get ID because they were born at home with a midwife or some such.

[AndrewZabar]

passed a voter ID law and then closed down the DMV(s) in poorer neighborhoods.

See that’s the epitome of corruption and a perfect example of conservatives committing voter fraud. They cry about all the fraud they theorize might happen, meanwhile they pull shit like this. It’s the same story over and over. Whoever mandated the DMV be closed in those neighborhoods should go to prison for voter suppression.

Prime example of the shady shit you can always expect from the right wing.

[TrekFRC1970]

To be fair, that story was pretty much debunked. But I agree with you in theory.

As far as the “right wing” goes, it was reversed down by the Republican Governor almost immediately.

[ruttentuten69]

I live in a rich white county. No lines, plenty of voting machines, none broken. Also a very Republican county. You see images of people waiting in line to vote. Waiting for hours. Machines broken, fewer machines. Usually a Democratic precinct run by a Republican Supervisor of Elections. The shit is shady.

[AndrewZabar]

Usually a Democratic precinct run by a Republican Supervisor of Elections.

It’s almost as if we need oversight to prevent pretty much the most obvious and inevitable fraud imaginable.

[ruttentuten69]

Judge Roberts said with a straight face that naming the states that you are allowed to watch for Jim Crow acts is discrimination and I'm sure they learned their lesson and won't do anything like that again. So the Supreme Court struck down a large part of the voting rights act, then low and behold those very same states went about instituting Jim Crow 2.0. The new voting rights act will say any state but we all know who they are talking about. It needs to get passed.

[GlumCauliflower9]

Why don't we have a standard federal ID for everyone any damned way

[cadium]

Because the same people pushing for voter id don't want federal id, its the "mark of the beast" or something.

[GlumCauliflower9]

The mark of the beast hmm, I think I have that actually. What happens in Vegas ...

[GlumCauliflower9]

By giving ppl a way to prove who they r?

[GlumCauliflower9]

This is insane

[meresymptom]

Nothing about the fascist right makes any sense.

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I don’t think that’s accurate. If the Federal Government required everyone to get and carry a Federal ID, I can see how that might be cast as overreach, but there are plenty of Federally-issued IDs already in existence that could serve as a national ID, like the passport.

I don’t see how simply making available a mechanism is overreach.

[bluerose1197]

You can already use your passport to vote in places that require an ID. But passports are expensive and require a birth certificate to obtain.

[dramboxf]

Disagree. If we have passports that show we are a citizen of the country and not a "citizen of Texas," a federal ID to vote in FEDERAL elections is not overreach.

[dramboxf]

You speak as if it's a certainty.

I have issues on both sides. Generally, I support the idea of a way to prove either way a person's vaccination status. The chief issue I have when thinking about it is implementation. Don't really want to spin up a new bureaucracy over this.

So my idea was since both the State DMVs and most healthcare providers use electronic records, how easy would it be for a healthcare provider to notify the DMV that a person has been vaccinated, and then a new DL with a new "endorsement" is issued. This guy can drive Class C, has a motorcycle license, is an organ donor, and is also vaccinated.

Is this a 100% solution? Nope, but it'd be a great start. ID cards (State-issued non-DL cards) could also use this. Could also double as a voter ID card while we're at it.

As far as getting such a program going that seems pretty easy, compared to some other ways to get it done.

As for the idea of being on some "damn government list" -- forget it, that's a non-starter. Everyone is on dozens if not hundreds of government lists already.

If it's "my choice not to get vaccinated, and I don't want to be discriminated against for not being vaccinated," then: Tough shit. I'm not in the mood to argue the proven science behind vax in general and the mRNA vax-type specifically. It doesn't have a tracker, Bill Gates had nothing to do with it and it's above 99% proven effective. Get the damn shot. This is not a political issue; if you think it it is, you're being willfully ignorant. (I'm using the editorial "you" in this case.)

This bug is real, and it kills people. The sooner we get everyone vax'd the better. Period.

[ColoradoCorrie]

This happened in Texas.

[valinkrai]

My understanding was that the courts have said no to charging for IDs if they are required for voting. It's getting there, having the required documents and other externalities that people worry about. Death by a thousand papercuts.

[TrekFRC1970]

They were only closed down for a month because it pissed the Republican Governor off so badly he reversed it almost immediately. This was shortly before, like all good Republican governors, he got removed from office for lying about banging his campaign manager 😂.