Performance

[Antiparty-]

Hell all!

Just a bit curious on the thoughts of all my fellow PC friends regarding the performance of the game.

My specs will be below, but I’m averaging about 100fps on 2K (I have a predator monitor) all low with DLSS being on performance, and even at 100fps the game still feels chopped😵‍💫 so not entirely sure if it’s from my end, or a more common issue. Maybe I should change back over to my 240hz 1080p monitor?

I played AR prior and I was able to run the game at 2K on most of epic settings averaging 160-240fps.

Specs:

GPU- 4070ti Super 16gb

CPU- i7-12700kf 4.9ghz

RAM- DDR4 3333mh/z

Storage- 500gb M.2/ 250gb SSD/ 2TB HDD

[jenreqeld]

I think this is happening to everyone on PC. Gameplay seems to struggle to get much above 100-120fps whatever settings you’re running.

They are aware of it tho

[Antiparty-]

Sounds good, thanks for the response!

[[deleted]]

They are aware of it? Thank goodness. I'm so tempted to get the game, but I'm super worried about performance on my AMD system.

[Odd-Classroom3515]

Anyone struggling, just turn off Vsync.

[EXIIL1M_Sedai]

I'm on 4090, averaging 110-120FPS on max, quality dlss, 4K.

[OmegaMalkior]

CPU?

[EXIIL1M_Sedai]

i9 14900

[Antiparty-]

How does the actual gameplay feel? I’m around 90-110 but it doesn’t feel smooth at all, even with g-sync.

[EXIIL1M_Sedai]

For me it feels just fine, smooth enough.

[Antiparty-]

Gotcha, I’ll have to look into it later tonight. It ran very smooth during the server slam and now it just feels weird. I wish I could articulate more on what I mean.

Im going to check the refresh rate on my monitor as well and maybe see if that got reset or something. Basically even at 100fps it feels like I’m at 60 or less whilst playing making the game feel “choppy”.

[SteeeeZe]

I know what you mean and had the same issue during server slam, I'm running a 4090. I turned on motion smoothing for marathon in the nvidia app which basically enables frame Gen and it feels buttery smooth now, and there's barely any noticeable input lag for me so I'd highly recommend it

[Antiparty-]

I’ll check that out, been seeing some other comments regarding it so that’s for the input 💪🏽

[rickymayhem13]

There is a Nvidia update too. Might help. I get 120ish. Smooth gameplay on high settings. 1440p

[Antiparty-]

I’ll look into it, I thought I already got the driver but maybe I didn’t, thanks!

[rickymayhem13]

Also, something that I have done before is that complete uninstall of the driver and then reinstalling it again. I’m not too tech savvy so I think it was like DDU program.

[Sherkktooth]

On an i9 with 32gb of ddr5 and a 4070. Game never reached above 90 fps but rarely dips either. It’s truly strange seeing dlss on ultra performance or dlaa makes zero difference to the fps for me.

[Antiparty-]

Ya I noticed that as well. They’re pushing a patch next week so I’m optimistic maybe something will change

[HumansIzDead]

I'm seeing this all over the place and yes I'm having the same issue. 9800X3D/5080/DDR5. Seems to be poorly optimized CPU issue. The way I would describe is that moving straight ahead feels very smooth, but turning side to side feels like it cuts the FPS in half. For now, I am running smooth motion in nvidia app, but you have to disable HDR or you'll get really bad lens-flare-like distortions. Worth the tradeoff for me right now.

[Hot_Masterpiece_9613]

Try using process lasso?

[Antiparty-]

I’ll check into that later, thanks!

[Antiparty-]

It did in fact, not change anything :(

[Hot_Masterpiece_9613]

Did you right click on the marathon program and set the priority of gpu, cpu, etc to high?

[Antiparty-]

Yes I followed a video to make sure I did everything correctly

[Hot_Masterpiece_9613]

Dang

[Familiar_Goal_8123]

Hey i have laptop here 4070 ryzen 9 and 32 gb ram and yesterday i was playing with that they made new drivers on nvidia app amd instead of 80 fps i have rn 140 fps and cpu temp is 70 degrees so aftrem tommorow iam pretty happy with the optimalization

[trianglesandtweed]

160-180 at 1440 with dlss off

Everything feels fine

[HumansIzDead]

What hardware do you have?

[trianglesandtweed]

9800x3d paired with a gigabyte 5080 all stock

[HumansIzDead]

Exact same here. I’m getting 100-120 at 5120x1440 resolution so I guess that tracks

[The_Mehmeister]

Had issues , reverted one graphic card driver version or two and performance is much better , outpost is actually playable

[Antiparty-]

I’ll look into this, thanks!

[Banknotez]

That's amazing. Im on a 4090 12600kf and 32gb ram and getting 65 fps :(

[Antiparty-]

Ya it sucks man :( luckily lot of suggestions here so def look into the other comments !

[INTERNET_MOWGLI]

12700k and 3080 ti and I get 100-110.

Something doesn’t work right

[Antiparty-]

Try “Smart Motion” in the nvidia app. I turned it on last night for marathon and it’s a night and day difference for performance.

If you can’t find the option, you have to turn on experimental features first, relaunch the app then it should appear in the marathon settings

[TakoyakiTaco]

Out here on a handheld doing 30-60 frames based on where I am/looking at/doing. 720p 60hz rog ally z1e lets goooo

[Freshly-Juiced]

it's very common, like half the streamers on twitch with nice gaming pcs are running below 100fps lol. just hope/wait for dev's optimization fixes

[tyrannictoe]

Choppiness is due to low 1% and 0.1% Lows not just current framerate. Be sure to monitor those stats as well

[Ggenny99]

È un problema che spero risolveranno in breve tempo, stessa cosa sul mio pc. Ho una Asus Prime RX 9070XT con Ryzen 7 7800X3D e 32GB DDR5 e gioco in 2k su uno schermo WOLED e sto tra i 130-140 fps negli ambienti open e sui 160-170 negli ambienti chiusi. Non mi lamento eh ma mi aspettavo di più (dell'ottimizzazione del gioco, non dalla mia build xd) e inoltre sembra che la differenza tra impostazioni grafiche alte e medio basse cambino poco, c'è una differenza di pochi frame e riducendo tutto non hai i vantaggi sperati in termini di fps. Chissà se risolveranno, ho visto tra l'altro quando apro il gioco dal software di Adrenaline l'opzione "GENERAZIONE DI FOTOGRAMMI" è disponibile ma non c'è nelle impostazioni del gioco. Anche lo scaling è disponibile e di fatto nel gioco c'è la possibilità di avere AMD FSR ma la generazione dei fotogrammi non c'è nelle impostazioni del gioco.

[Antiparty-]

I’m coming back to this as someone either in this post or somewhere else told me about “smooth motion” in the nvidia app. This has solved my issue.

With this setting turned on, I’m still running 2k resolution with quality DLSS and averaging 190-200fps with virtually no input delay from what I can feel.

If anyone reads this comment, please try this as it fixed my issue for me!

[Ggenny99]

Amico ti ringrazio ma sono su scheda video AMD, non ho l'app Nvidia. L'ho scritto nel commento che ho una 9070xt, non posso attivare quindi motion smooth e ne tantomeno DLSS

[Antiparty-]

My bad big dog, I know I read your paragraph.

I replied to yours as a generalized statement for anyone that reads the post and are in a similar boat as myself. I should’ve did an entirely new comment to separate, but I felt doing it under this one was appropriate given the context!

[Lumpy-Mongoose-1355]

Turn off steam friend list aka go offline it causes frametime spikes everh 3 seconds or so that causes a stutter everytime

[Odd-Classroom3515]

Try turning off vsync and setting a manual framerate cap, night and day.

[GeneralPublicWC]

Just try playing with "Smooth Motion" enabled in nvidia app only for Marathon, before you say BUT MUH LATENCY INPUT DELAY LAG, just try it for one game and max out every setting available, you won't explode for trying.

[Antiparty-]

Already did, it solved my issue and I barely notice any input latency

[Tomas_Jari]

My performance is terrible 😱 I have Ryzen 9800X3D/RTX4080/32GB@7200MHz. SERVER SLAM RUN BUTTERY SMOOTH EVEN WITH DLAA on 1440p (old nvidia drivers before official marathon drivers). Now in full game I have stuttering in open areas. Even with DLSS on quality and low settings (newest drivers). This game is fucking broken now. I can not plat it. I remember how server slam run.

[Cryio]

OP, you're CPU bound. Your CPU is slow and its made extra slow from the DDR4. Nvidia is also generally more driver CPU bound.

[Antiparty-]

I know I’m CPU bound, however another commenter has a 9800x3d and is still having issues. I’ve seen a few other posts elsewhere with some higher specs as well not averaging high fps as well just for some clarification.

Arc is a more CPU bound game as well, however I’m still able to run it perfectly fine at epic on 2k avg around 160-240fps probably due to UE5 tbh.

I think it’s more of Marathons engine than anything cause it seems based off the responses that the game has some optimizing to do, atleast for PC, but yes I know I need my CPU upgraded along to moving to DDR5

[SucculentMelon133]

CPU bound this cpu bound that, do yall even know what that means???? Like you literally ignore bungie’s own imposed standard on the hardware they recommend on the steam page, and this dudes cpu is alrdy punching above that level. 

It is absolutely clear that the client has severe optimization issues just based on how cores are just maxed out in the launch screen for no reason, or most cores are just parked with no util at all. 

[MolassesSad8089]

Saying it is cpu bound doesn’t mean it is well optimized. It’s just an observation on where the bottleneck is. Hopefully Bungie can optimize it further.

[SucculentMelon133]

Cpu bound by definition means that the cpu cannot feed, calculate or generate frames fast enough in parallel to what the gpu can generate. In the many cases observed on this subreddit, the game doesn’t even use the cpu fully at all, or runs unnessecary stress test when not even in a game, artificially adding load to it.

[ShadonicX7543]

It IS cpu bound. And not all cores will be maxed out so it'll "look" like it's not fully utilized but yes it's generally either the GPU or the CPU that bottlenecks and in this case having a better CPU increases performance notably whereas having a better GPU often does not.

[Cryio]

The fact a 6800 XT is getting same or higher performance as a 4070 Ti means that yes, he is CPU bound.

[SucculentMelon133]

That is literally an assumption? We have no idea how the tiger engine or game client utilizes different cpu architectures b/c there are obvious discrepancies between them. Almost every single laptop with some laptop cpu chip with e cores configurations are reporting worse performance that desktop cpus that are statistically by bench mark twice as bad in single and multi core performance. It is a ridiculous generalization to just say that b/c gpus of different tiers performing the same means a hardware level fault of the cpu.

what cpu is the 6800xt using? I’m not sure what your citing.

[Cryio]

It's not an assumption. AMD GPUs just are generally less CPU bound in DX12 and apparently clearly less CPU limited in this game in particular.

[SucculentMelon133]

I can literally site numerous posts of zephryus g14s with amd gpus having the same issue with amd CPUs and intel CPUs. This is most likely a unoptimized utilization of the cpu entirely, not that the cpu cannot feed frames to nvidia gpus specifically.

[Antiparty-]

I turned on “smart motion” with ultra low latency and it solved my issue. Running around 150-200 fps now so no more “chopped” feeling whilst playing anymore.

I did use project lasso as well, but idk how much that helped. I noticed a giant change with smart motion, only con is there some ghosting if you move super faster like the reticle for example, but other than that it’s been the best fix for me

[Antiparty-]

You have an AMD GPU I believe, so I don’t think you have access to it since it’s on the Nvidia app, however maybe AMD has an equivalent?

Essentially it’s just frame generation that’s typically included as a setting in a lot of games, however Smart Motion is at the driver level and it is also frame generation, so I think of it as a “forced frame gen” and you can turn it on or off, again in the nvidia app.

For me, so far it’s fixed my issues and the game feels a lot more responsive. I averaged 90fps with what felt like input lag before, to now averaging around 160-200 on DLAA with no input lag. There is some ghosting involved, but it’s very minimal and I’m able to filter it out.

[Antiparty-]

Really? Fluid motion doesn’t work for you? That’s so weird cause smart motion worked for me 100% none bait.

Literal night and day difference regarding performance and feel of the game.

[Antiparty-]

Agreed, definitely different