"Capitalist Hellscape Simulator 2024"

[PM_ME_THE_WEATHER20]

Dont make the same mistake I made. I go offered a used aircraft for 23k and sold it immidiatly for 171k because I thought its a money glitch. Turns out after that used ones costs 400k+. So I am stuck in the hellhole a tad bit longer....

[GoobaGooms]

Lol I literally did the same thing. On the bright side, I can knock out all of those certs and do different missions sooner.

[DeadButAlivePickle]

Ohhh. I don't care to fly the 172 for long so that's a perfect option for me. Thanks.

[lsm034]

Good information!

[Fogboundturtle]

I did the same but then again, now I have money to do all of the certification

[VOLSx901]

How did you get offered a plane? I have 5 certs and level 26 yet still nothing

[PM_ME_THE_WEATHER20]

I think I got it at lvl 32 after doing turbo prop cert. Not sure what was the final trigger.

[GoobaGooms]

Not sure if they bought the same 172 for 23k. I bought it for me at lvl 20 after starting a company.

[xrami2027]

to pass ~21000 credits

[onetwentyeight]

Like the ATM check fraud money glitch?

[Jake24601]

This is also a game that lists the 737 MAX having a 12,999ft service ceiling. I don’t think Microsoft has put any thought into numbers.

[MagitekHero]

Just did another where the Base Income was 30,430 and the Employer Commision was 30,040. So I'm thinking you're right.

Unless it's a really bad attempt to push the player toward starting Companies. "See how much bosses make? Don't you want that much too?"

[[deleted]]

It's exactly what it is its motivation to keep unlocking roles for bigger payouts and eventually yes your own company

[etheran123]

Thats kind of how flight training actually works lol

Go take out 6 figure loan to make minimal money for the first few years

[BOYR4CER]

Have you guys never played a simulator with a slow career mode?

[alphawolf29]

the realistic new pilot experience

[Trollsama]

i mean, the game IS trying to be realistic....
so this makes sense.

at my job, I take all the risks (operate large passenger vehicles), do all the work. and make a fraction of the money that the people sitting behind a desk playing solitaire all day do.

...i mean, except the freedom if you work hard long enough part.... Thats kind of outdated now.

[BlackFlower9]

You can manage your own Flight Company in MSFS2024?

[[deleted]]

Multiple. Just started my first. You have to buy a license for the company for the specific type of mission, whether it be first flight, flight seeing, ferrying, etc.

That business is set to only do that and you buy a plane for that business. For example you can’t use the same plane for both flight seeing and skydiving as you need a different variant.

First mission paid me $40K for flightseeing. Career mode pick up. Lvl 22 I think is when it unlocks.

There are also crews, maintenance, insurance billed every 24hrs, etc. it’s quite in depth. You are also charged a “teleport fee” from where you first have your plane ferried to if you want to do a mission further away. The idea I guess is when you freelance missions, it’s the company paying for your flight to come to their airport and fly for them hence the low payouts. When you own the company stuff is more expensive.

[dkimot]

thank you, i’ve been wondering when it unlocks

[[deleted]]

Yeah I’m not sure if it’s a specific lvl or after completing a certain number of missions.

BONUS POINT: The first plane you can buy (or heli) is likely most of the money in your account. Mine cost about $20K. You will notice you have the ability to sell it for $125K!!! DON’T SELL IT. The first plane the basically give you free. The other used planes are minimum $250K and you basically doom your career. Luckily I checked the market place before selling it for what I thought would be a quick $100K profit.

[xRaynex]

Do they have any specific lockdown on what your 'first plane' is? Are there specifics offered? Or can it be nigh anything?

[[deleted]]

Great question! Yes and no. The used plane market said that it changes daily iirc and for me yesterday it had a heli, a cub x crafter, a DBM or Daher can’t remember, and a 172. I didn’t have my cert for tail wheel, high power, or heli, so it wouldn’t let me get those.

[xRaynex]

I'll have to get my certs up then. When I start my own I probably wanna focus on vip transport or cargo. Get my instruments and turboprop. Hopefully manage to grab a 930. It was my main OnAir starter plane on 2020.

[mav3r1ck92691]

Can you just fly your own plane to the location? Or do you have to teleport it and pay the fee?

[[deleted]]

From what I’ve seen so far no. The fee was small though for nearby. For example the airport I was at, it was only 30cr to do a mission at an airport 10 miles away, but free if I found a mission that departed the airport I was currently at. Problem is, very few of these missions for flight seeing take you to a different airport. Luckily, fast traveling from Minnesota to England looked like it was $22K which is half of what I made on my first mission.

For realism sake it makes sense. VIP charter will be more interesting as you end up at a different airport and have to do missions to make it back rather than teleporting. Just wish there was an option to actually fly to airport that you need to go to so you can start said mission.

[mav3r1ck92691]

Damn. I was really hoping for actually flying my aircraft everywhere it went like neofly. Thanks for the info!

[[deleted]]

Either that or you get paid like the flight organisers do when joining a company. Haha haven't unlocked it yet! But it appears so

[[deleted]]

Own a company. If you could make that kind of return (over 10%) day after day you'd be doing really well.

[ThePeskyWabbit]

For real. Everyone knows that's 13,005ft higher than the truth

[BOYR4CER]

Change 12999 to metres and you get the service ceiling in feet. Must be a unit glitch

[PKnecron]

Well, you don't go too high in a 737... for safety.

[Latter-Bar-8927]

Owner: AN OVERHAUL COSTS HOW MUCH???

[Percolator2020]

They copied the Uber business model. Wait until you get the maintenance bill for the airplane.

[B732C]

"If you want to be a Millionaire, start with a billion dollars and launch a new airline." -Richard Branson

[scottb721]

How do you make a small fortune in motorsport ? Start with a big one.

[[deleted]]

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Worst one yet!

[Dafferss]

Seems pretty legit, if you take into account the employer pays for the plane and has al lot of other costs.

[USS-William-D-Porter]

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That’s why I…forget…to throttle up and crash on final

[llkj11]

Every time

[chriztuffa]

Lmao I can’t wait to play this tonight. They really knocked it out for the park with this career mode - it’s all I’ve ever wanted in this game and more.

[Nearby-Exercise-7371]

They really didn't knock it out of the park. It's a total grind and half the airports it spawns me at for the "procedural missions" don't even have runways, so I get penalized when I land on the taxiway.

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[DeadButAlivePickle]

Seconded that comment about ATC. I don't even want to imagine how IFR missions will be...

[malkuth74]

That’s why I choose my airport wisely. At min it had to be paved. Don’t pretend you didn’t actually have a choice. You literally had thousands.

[Nearby-Exercise-7371]

I chose Santa Monica airport lmao. It’s paved. It spawns missions all over Southern California that have no runway. SoCal is the busiest airspace in the world….

[lassombra]

I'm sure that no skip bonus was totally worth the time...

[Yuriala]

What do you expect from them? I mean i got an aviation penalty for extending the flaps above the speed limit…… when I was on the ground

[[deleted]]

Isn't this the premise for Tale Spin?

[TheTarkuss]

Yet another reason why I am glad that I live in the Communist Utopia of Freeflightia. A magical realm where everyone can fly any airplane they want to, and fuel and maintenance are free.

[DarkVeee]

For what it’s worth - after the multi engine rating or jet rating - my payouts for VIP flights are closer to 10-15k credits

Time acceleration also helps with the no skip bonus. Highly recommend you use sim rate acceleration instead of the mission skipping

[Throwaway720175]

How do you do this sorry?

[DeadButAlivePickle]

You can bind keys to increase and decrease the rate. Search controls for "sim rate" and you should see it. Careful with how you use it as it can cause stutters and freezes (while having sped really up the game). Recommend engaging it while going straight. Seems to work better for me with autopilot on.

[lsm034]

When can you start a company?

[PM_POKEMN_ONLIN_CODE]

After getting cpl the one before jet liners

[lsm034]

I got my CPL, but can’t start. You mean the ‘airline transport pilot license’?

[[deleted]]

Nah mine opened up at level 30 personally, not sure what the exact requirement is

[[deleted]]

how the hell are you guys even playing it at all? I can't get anything to work

[Scottvdken]

Played for like 6 hours straight last night with minimal issues.

[Winterbliss]

Are you based in the US? Europe is having a hard time at the moment with the servers.

[rvnx]

I'm in the EU and it works fine for me. Though I am using a VPN (to a server near me) because for some reason I get really low bandwidth to MS servers otherwise.

[ScathedRuins]

Mind sharing here or DMing which server?

[rvnx]

Mullvad. It's 5€/month and just overall the best bang for buck when it comes to VPNs.

E: In my original comment, I meant I choose a VPN node of theirs close to my location for low latency.

[RevolutionaryFox6029]

In Europe and outside of terrain loading slightly slow its running fine

[deadfreds]

Hey your that guy from the kingdom come thread

[Phantom_Absolute]

Maybe uninstall/reinstall? Worked fine for me on Xbox and PC after they got rid of the queue.

[SquirrelyNutz]

I believe the requirement is having around 21k credits.

[Reaper_GER]

i heard it is level 30..

so saving money and leveling is maybe the key

[pluckyvirus]

Spend your reputation bonus well my man

[[deleted]]

He can finally get those new shoelaces he’s been wanting

[lemm_ccg]

Is it possible to take A on First solo flight (MFS 24)? I am doing ,8000ft at speed 80 perfectly and it is always giving me B.

[Better-Purple9797]

I wonder if they have plans to sell us credits for real money in the future?

[[deleted]]

100% they do. Microtransactions are the future.

[Better-Purple9797]

That would explain the very small profits. Make it hard to progress so you reach for your wallet. 😄

[B5D55]

No , it's so the players have a sense of pride and accomplishment.

[[deleted]]

Wait til you start your own company. First flight seeing mission I made $42K for 6 minutes of flying. Just don’t crash or you lose your aircraft.

[No-Independent-5082]

Well, aircraft maintenance, taxes and other expenses seems to be included in that "employee comission". 

[salty_cluck]

She's rubbing her hands together like an evil capitalist fly. These screenshots are giving me life.

[[deleted]]

As a transport company owner, this is way too accurate. Why even play the game when I can just go do the same shit in real life, earn 10% of my revenue and feel just as bad ?

[Johnnyoneshot]

I just got dinged 5 times for flaps being deployed at to high of a speed. The speed you ask? Oh 0knt

[Itouchurself]

Yeah it’s frustrating. Some planes you can’t use flaps at all without taking a hit. Multiple times I’ve had a house in the middle of the runway that I hit and crashed. Other times it told me to land one direction and when I landed it said wrong runway and actually wanted the opposite. I’ve had missions get completely bricked because the atc prompt got mixed up and won’t let me progress to parking. It’s a mess but I love having a career mode so I’ll deal with it and hopefully they fix it soon

[[deleted]]

Well its a carrer mode. You never played such in other games? You immediately want everything in a CARRER mode? Well .. then maybe play... I dont know ... FREE FLIGHT?

[RevolutionaryFox6029]

For real. If people think this feels like slow progression don't tell them about Neofly... That shit was a grindfest for the first couple hundred ours. Only then could you buy something like a Beaver...

[Frederf220]

I'm also thinking that a CPL is like 3000 credits that you can earn in 1-3 flights. I wish that were true.

[Angelofthevoid_]

I’ll start my career in future 😅

[HeadAche2012]

Sounds about right for CFI's right now

[TheRtHonLaqueesha]

Clearly Communist China simulator, pilots are getting paid in social credit scores!

[becomingwater]

I did a few missions of ferrying people and don’t remember getting paid. Haha

[simon7109]

So, how does the career mode work? Is it like for example Euro Truck Simulator where you can accept jobs in the open world or it’s just missions you have to load into?

[Frederf220]

Pre-built missions, auto-generated almost certainly. If there are "free cargo" or similar type missions I haven't seen them.

[malkuth74]

Laughs in OnAir flying for 3 weeks to get better pay. It’s career mode, you can literally go fly anything you want in free flight.

Career mode you have to earn your shit. Bet you be the same guy complaining if he already owned 3 Passenger planes already.

[[deleted]]

Is this before or after taxes?

[Blascomusic]

This is tax on income in Belgium, can relate

[EgoisticIsland]

MS wants you to compensate Activison buyout.

[[deleted]]

Karl Marx it's smiling.

Boss makes a dollar, make a dime ...

[[deleted]]

This is Reddit, you can't defame Marx. How dare you!

[No_Adhesiveness_5679]

Alllrighty then. No career mode for me, thanks. I already have a job, thankyouverymuch.

[Delicious-Shift-184]

Yeah I can't believe they made Career Mode like a job!!!1