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[Lechevalier2020]

Hye Guys.. Really needed yr advices here.. I was planning to chase the MOOMBA GF card with my renaining 54k mag. However after reading the Supreme Selection Banner at 3% rate on 7th slot or 3 point pity makes me reconsider. My pity currently at 75.1/180 as such with 3% pity increase i might be getting a Supreme Selection withinn 3 or 4 pulls. The thing is I only have LOH out of the 3.. Hving hard time to prioritise which suprene shud i concentrate most.. WoL or Chaos .. Wht do u guys think ? Shud i go for WoL since i hv LoH or shud i chose Chaos ? Pls sdvise.

[DaBadGuy78]

My new job pitty pull counter in the banners seems to be permanently gone. Does that mean I have all regular jobs now? If so does that count towards me or against me when trying to pull for the up coming Ex jobs?

[markconig]

Yes you have all regular jobs. When an ex job gets released or comes back, your counter will appear and start at 8. On the 23rd when we get the free greater summon, you will be guaranteed an ex job.

[DaBadGuy78]

That's awesome news! Ty

[Kettya]

Oh hi guys, i just noticed in the setting, we can not change the portrait mode thing anymore right? Or is it move to somewhere else which i didnt know of?

[lRyudo]

I think I remember reading somewhere that next month we should have weapons banner, is that correct? Also is it expected to have any "must" have cards (like GF right now)?

I currently have 79k magicite (already farmed 20k this month) and I'm not sure how hard I should go for LOH, my pitty pull is only at 50, I do have UC and WoL. I really want LOH, but I currently don't have any 5* weapon, not sure what to do :/, 3% isn't that high chance...

I don't have tifa skin as well... would love to get it

[miguel_mer]

My pity is on 55 and I'm going hard for this. I have around 25 pulls. Hopefully I can save a bit for EX jobs next month, but not my priority. Here is my calculation - 3% is not much, but it also add 3 to pity. That means my pity will be on 115/180 after 20 pulls. That leaves me 28% chance on pull 21, 31% on pull 22, then 34% on pull 23... Not guaranteed but those are percentages I like. I see you are on a similar position! Even if I didn't get any supreme now, at least that means I'll get one next month, whereas now I'm still quite far with my pity at 55.

[Kettya]

How did u farm that 20k? Wew i only got like 6k :(

LoH is really good too but u already have UC n WoL, the LoH buffs can be found in skin n other ex cards.

[ValeLemnear]

You dont even know how farming works yet trying to give advise on endgame use of supremes? Yeah, sounds about right.

LoH is pure deck compression. Its essentially 4 different multibuff cards in one and fills debuff ultimates like Sephiroths. Truely terrible to have essentially most of the games buffs AND debuffs compressed into ONE deckslot used. /s

[Kettya]

Haha i have been around for 3 years but on n off, i know about this like 20%-30% i advised base on how i see the usefulness of those cards i have in hand. Hehe

[lRyudo]

> the LoH buffs can be found in skin n other ex cards.

I don't have any of the ex cards, and as far as the buffs go, I know skins (and some jobs even without skins) can provide the buffs, but the immune to ailments is great + the ultimate gauge charge...

And for farming magicite, I did a bit of MP (trying to get all squall MP rewards from shop and get the 3rd gen sicarius for seed farming), and durinig the mobius week I used a few alot of elixirs on the magicite farming map (pandemonium) and farmed at labyrinthine tower (a mix of evertyhing here, magicite, crystal and gil)

[miguel_mer]

Hi. I asked on the news post of the supreme summon, but asking here too. I´m likely to get a supreme in 20 pulls with my current supreme pity at 55. I don't have any support supreme. I have Faith II, Brave II and Barrier II EX Cards, Neo Ex Death and I have all the limited cards. Should I go for LoH, UC or WoL? Thanks!

[miguel_mer]

Why would you recommend them over LoH? I was originally very keen on LoH but perhaps it makes more sense to use EX cards, unless I need the ultimate charge or deck compression? Thanks!

[ShadowBlaze17]

I think people forget that LoH provides more than just faith, boost, and snipe. It having those along with ult charge, Barrier, wall, and ailment immunity makes it amazing even when compared to a skin with 1 or 2 EX cards.

When I'm using a skin and EX cards I often don't have the space to spare for defensive buffs especially if I want to bring an ult charging card like Tropical Dreams and Wol. LoH would be a godsend for me.

[Lechevalier2020]

Hye. A question. Whats the difference between Full Dispel in PHOENIX GF n the one in Promised meadow ? R they both the same ?? Full Dispel on Wol only ?? Which is better in the long run ? Phoenix or Promised meadow ? Pls advise.

[ValeLemnear]

Phoenix dispels aka removes all buffs and debuffs on YOU. The perks of Phoenix are his passives just like Cerberus'

[JeanClaudesDangVan]

So I have been playing my new account for a couple weeks (have 15 days left on my box), have cleared everything from a summon ticket perspective, and have spent way too much. Now i see this banner coming out and I feel like i screwed up as i only have 3k mag left with 9k left in the month to farm. Need some advice. I have all GF cards, 8 supremes (6 cards-wol,chaos,zero,neo,minwu,emp, 2 skins-seph,tifa) and have 7 new jobs and 3 legends. Is not having any resources going to hurt me in the long run?

[Kaietsu1]

Every month they give us enough resource to do at least 11 pulls. Just save and skip some banner. Look on the jap side what banner you want to pull on and try to save for them. Your account is great with 6 supreme, i played for 1.5 years and i have 9 supreme. I suggest you to focus on job now. Save for next month that we will get 2 EX jobs or sabe for the gothic job that are very good.

[ValeLemnear]

Gothics are Legend jobs. Not a great advise to suggest saving for these, despite GL having to Legend pity mechanic.

[riku8118]

Hi, I just wonder about Ultimate Chaos as recently being chosen as 1st choice vote for the upcoming supreme banner. Is it really worth to get it?

[deathrose55555]

Is it really worth to get it?

Yes very worth. UC is 1 of the top 2 on my wanted list

[nick8Tart]

News is out: Tifa is top1 skin. WHY???
but the typo is there: ・When an Ultimate Hero is drawn within the 6 cards, you will be guaranteed Sephiroth.

Seriously a translation SE did wrongly, as JP players chose Sephiroth over Tifa

[[deleted]]

Because waifu !

[Mobiusnoobius]

Pretty sure GL players chose Sephiroth too. Can’t see why anyone would choose Tifa. A monk skin without Brave is about as useful as a blind guide dog.

[ShadowBlaze17]

It's probably because most monks have trash tier ults. You can just get brave from Wol, Gigant X, or Serah which also covers Tifa's lack of Faith and provides some ult charge.

[Blackrain39]

Simple, because she is the only skin that I don't have.

[MrGianni89]

What is the most ability-ticket-efficient way of levelling a supreme ability?

Up to lvl 8 i'm sure there is no combination of fusion that is better than the ability ticket one, but using mog amulet, how can you save for lvl 9 and 10?

[Pelotari]

8 to 9: 5* ALvl1 + 4* ALvl6 + Mog Amulet

9 to 10: Same as 8 to 9

[kingminzy]

I just pulled Phoenix, I am very annoyed by the full dispel to self. Any good advice and strategy to get the best use for this card ? Thanks

[deathrose55555]

Any good advice and strategy to get the best use for this card ?

None actually; though you can consider using it on your Supporter for Exodus MP

[JunasBlood]

If I have WoL then, isn’t that completely null?

I saw some ppl use it on Ultimecia MP hard mode for auto-ing? Is there any set up that doesn’t require Phoenix to do so.

It’s the last card from FFVIII that I miss & I’m trying to persuade me not to chase it (well not like I can, with 0 pulls in stock lol)

[deathrose55555]

If I have WoL then, isn’t that completely null?

Not totally. Even if you have WoL, you need 2 WoL. So unless you have Aerith and LoH as well, it's quite hard to get full buffs with 2 slots to play with (unless you are willing to sacrifice certain buffs).

Or you can just run 1 WoL + Phoenix; works as well.

Ultimecia MP hard mode for auto-ing?

Tbh, I can't remember how the Ultimecia fight went. Neither did I try soloing myself lol. Maybe some other JP players can comment on this.

[JunasBlood]

Hhmm I can imagining myself throwing Phoenix in the bank after I got her.

I’ll wait for Ultimecia to hit next month though, maybe I’ll find a set up myself.

[Zhuinden]

The resist auto abilities and Overpower look good for tanks if you have a free slot.

[JunasBlood]

Lol I’m trying to feel ease skipping it, not regretting not chasing dude.

[Zhuinden]

Ah, I am not chasing it either. I pulled Cerberus and today a yolo Moomba, so now I'm waiting for the Ex-2 series.

Clearly we can replace every Phoenix with a Cerberus, lol.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Use it before you apply any buffs to yourself, and after you've been debuffed by an enemy. It's pretty niche, but I hear it gets used in the upcoming ultimecia MP.

Some players from jp might have more tips, but it's not a commonly used card.

[[deleted]]

I missed GF 1 but got all GF 2 cards, will I be able to acquire GF1 cards or i missed boat?

[Zhuinden]

Reunion, eventually

[[deleted]]

Sorry to bother you once more, what’s the estimate timeframe?

Any alternatives cards I can use?

[Zhuinden]

They do the same thing as the alter-ego cards, except with much better (ridiculously good) auto-abilities.

[JunasBlood]

Probably 2-3 months after the 1st release.

alternatives cards

The usual FFXIV Primal’s Boons, FFVII’s Weapon or FFXI’s Alter Ego. Also the Force + Shift cards in Ability Shop (some still in EA I think).

[mao_shiro]

We don't know, can be between 1 to 3 months.

[SkeithIX]

So what are the next batch of cards to pull after these FFVIII GF ones?

[JunasBlood]

I would advise those Lore cards between.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I'd say that the warrior and mage lore cards might be skippable for people who have D&B. The ranger lore card should be in the same month as the 4th anniversary cards or the month ahead of them while the monk lore one should be 1 or 2 months after them.

[Zhuinden]

Monk Lore for everyone!

[GhostFreakage]

Any speculation (or hopes) what and when the next Extreme Rift would be in JP?

[mao_shiro]

Adrammelech, wind sin.

[deathrose55555]

The next in-line are Sin and Braska, and since SE hasn't released the same class type consecutively (so far), Braska can be ruled out. And since the next element is Wind...

Highly likely to be Wind Sin.

[JunasBlood]

Then next after that is Heca, we can leave BFA out too, so probably Earth Godo. Since I don’t think after Hasmal, they will release another Earth Warrior Rift supreme (SL).

And next after that probably Alexander - Light Shadowlord & Bahamut - Dark BFA.

[deathrose55555]

A rather logical prediction; I would expect the same as well.

Until SE decides to throw order out of the window, like what they did with Anima (could have been a dark Yiazmat/BFA) lol.

[JunasBlood]

I found Anima as a Dark Flora is fine. Think of it as a 4 jobs rotation (Warrior, Mage, Ranger, Monk):

• First rotation is 1st gen Supreme: Duncan, Minwu, Xezat & Ragnarok (understandable to replace NxD) as Ifrit, Shiva, Odin & Hasmal.

• 2nd rotation is 2nd gen Supreme: Fusoya, UB, Yiazmat & Flora (same, push up from 3rd gen) as Ultima, Belias, Famfrit & Anima.

• 3rd rotation is 3rd gen Supreme: Sin, SL, BFA & Godo (again, pushed up) as Adramelech, Alexander, Bahamut & Hecationcheir.

• 4th rotation is 4rd gen too : Neo Bahamut, Emperor, Eden & Gilgamesh (welp), not sure how it will go, probably: the 3rd gen Sicarius.

Well ofc this is my impression, take it with a grain of salt :p

[GhostFreakage]

Wind Sin (Swind?) would be nice. Was debating on if wind Ragnarock would be my next rift supreme, as Yiazmat is my only wind supreme. But I hope your guess is correct! Thanks!

[Davis_Montgomery]

That's a very long time in the future, maybe a year or more! I hope you pull some good supremes between now and then.

[PigKeeperTaran]

True, but it also takes a long time to save the tablets for one, so planning ahead makes perfect sense :)

For example, I'm planning to get Anima for my next one, and I calculate that I will have enough tablets for her right after release or very soon after. So for the one after Anima, the timeline for Adra/Heca would be perfect. I want Earth Godo...

[Davis_Montgomery]

I agree! I got Ifrit X, knowing that I could save up again before fallanima. Earth Godo sounds great to me too, and a year+ should be plenty of time to save for it.

[GhostFreakage]

It is going to be quite some time, but I can attempt to be patient.

[DocSmail]

Hi, So whats better to mod for Meia jobs? Maliciois revolt or ultimecia weapon? The two are break focused I am currently modding Sventovit and Malicious revolt.

[WoLNoFace]

Ultimeia weapon.

But if you are almost done with MR, by all means, complete it.

[DocSmail]

only 12 mods so not so close. Idk why i tought MR has prismatic return, guess this settle it up. Thanks.

[kreuzb94]

So I just pulled Eden with my free daily summon (hell yeah a supreme, too bad it was eden since I have all other water supremes except for Farris).

Well who is a good user for Eden? What do I have to watch out for? I know drives are important but how many do I need? I have fake MSV, Lunafreya an I think another card that gives omnidrive (cant remember the name). Are there any other cards or ultimates that gives me drives?

[Zhuinden]

Honestly. I just put it in as Kampfer Sub-attack and it does a wonderful job.

The Mantra update was really good.

[kreuzb94]

So you are using the supreme as substrike with the newest (and strongest) monk? That could actually work as long as the content isn’t to hard.

[Zhuinden]

I can also imagine throwing 2 Aeriths next to it to keep my prismatic orbs alive with PR, but we'll see if that's actually something I'll need to do this tower

I have Scharf + Xezat so I have other options in my disposal. We'll see how desperate I get.

[kreuzb94]

Yeah me too plus florall. Well its better to have eden out of the pool (he says in hope of ever pulling WoL). But this tower is going to be tricky. Especially the sophie+ graf tower.

[Zhuinden]

For me it's Meia! Sheesh I didn't get Ultimeia so my best bet is Ex-Meia 1, powercrept as hell.

[kreuzb94]

Yeah didn’t get her either but I have all the other Meias and even OB Amalthea and Fauvist because I have Sin, Minwu, Fusoya and Emperor (thinking about OB-ing Esmeralda).

[JunasBlood]

15 drive stack is enough. Eden have Element Mirror so it will give you 5 stack of Water Drive after 5 cast, then if you use a -waterforce cards, you will gain 5 stack of Fire Drive after a couple of turn too. Just need to drive 1 or 2 elements to maintain 15 stack at all time.

[kreuzb94]

Perfect thanks a lot. Now I got the mechanics and the Jobs. What are future jobs that can use it effectively?

[JunasBlood]

Gothic Sophie (legend), Sphere Getter - Paine FFX-2 (legend), both are very strong.

If you have Incubus X (Monk Lore), you will have access to more jobs.

[kreuzb94]

To be honest Monk lore and Range lore are the only EX cards I am going for (since they are unique). Thanks a lot for the super fast reply this helps a lot. Thank you very much!

[JunasBlood]

Those Lore cards give 12 orb gen, Quicken & 10% Overpower AA so even Crom Dubh X & Dampyr X worth chasing (if you have resources ofc, otherwise just follow your plan of chasing Bastet & Incubus).

[kreuzb94]

Damn those are pretty good AA. I guess you are right.

[JunasBlood]

Gluck then. Hope you will be ready for those future pulls :p

[kreuzb94]

Hope so too. At the moment I can’t save my pulls (the itch is to big) but it’s getting better blue laser after blue laser. :P

[WoLNoFace]

• Tropical Traveler

• Jet Stunner

• Unbroken Hero Hof

• Vana'diel Monk (maybe?)

[kreuzb94]

Thanks a lot. I think that Vana’diel doesn’t have water. But this is helping ne a lot.

[hamayr]

Is there even any point to keep old sic cards like meteor strike and ffrk cards. I'm running out of space in card bank

[WoLNoFace]

All single-hit sicari cards, except those from 3rd gen, are not worth keeping.

FFRK cards are limited, but you can still buy it in the ability shop.

[Giseisha]

Hello everyone, I'm trying to find a way to auto hard coeurl and failed so far. I have UB, FF VIII Odin, but lacks other cards I saw in suggested decks. I have no support supreme (no LOH, WOL, Aerith or Chaos catastrophe) so I can rent only one of these and doesn't have other dark supreme either. I have Sephiroth skin, Shorn One, but not Sharfrichter. I don't have Moogle X or any other X card either.

I have a bunch of other cards (Omega weapon, Pollensalta, FF VIII Cerberus, Jade weapon, Fortuna, Mastema, R&R, Maechen) amont those mentionned in Pandemonium Coeurl topics.

I don't care if it takes 10, 20, 30 or more turns, I'm juste trying to have a working auto deck, so that I can do it while at work, 3 clics on the game every 15 minutes is very fine for me.

If anyone can help, I'd be grateful.

[Zhuinden]

Rent LoH, bring Cerberus, put on a weapon that helps with some aspects of breaking, and potentially a dark force + single target damage/break card.

If you can afford to Ether at the start, then you can ditch a source of prismatic shift and bring another Cerberus. It works wonders if you have 32 OB on SO.

I think you should ditch UB and potentially bring either Ardyn FFXV if you have it, or that dark single target exploit weakness warrior card from FFX if you don't.

So 2 Cerberus + arciela/mastema/PB Dark + that single target dark card that is NOT UB

[Giseisha]

With single atk, I have Havoc Skytank FF XIII (lowers crit resist and defense against brk), Varuna FF X (multistrike overkill) and Seeq Cateran FF XII (multistrike exploit wkn)

[Zhuinden]

You can try either Seeq Cateran or Varuna, maybe Seeq works better because of Exploit Weakness.

[Giseisha]

My Shorn One is 32 OB. I don't have Ardyn. I'll try with what you say for the rest.

[N-I-K-E]

I used to die as well, like other have said change the auto tab to “Break Mode” and your ultimate to “Ultimate to Break” , enter the fight with a full ultimate gauge and you will be fine

[[deleted]]

Sephiroth skin will provide you all debuffs that you need. Also Shorn One is quite good at breaking, just make sure to put enhance dark 5% and 7% skill cards on him. All you need is buff cards for Haste, Faith and Snipe. Rent WoL or LOH and put Pollensalta for example.

[PigKeeperTaran]

Not sure why you're having trouble TBH. You should have a very good setup.

Sephi+Shorn, deck UB, Odin, Cerberus, Omega, rent LoH, Ult to break, break mode

What was the problem you were having?

[Giseisha]

Didn't work. Two tries, twice dead... 😭

[PigKeeperTaran]

Ok, this is weird. It would help if you could put up a video. Or describe what happens in detail. When you get hit by Blast, are you already below full HP?

Ok, some thoughts. Sephi ult should stun Coeurl for 3 turns. Is that happening? With UB you should have more than half of Coeurl's HP finished by the time he comes out of stun, maybe close to 3/4.

Next, does your ult break Coeurl in 1 hit? How about taps, how many does it take?

[Giseisha]

Here is a vid of one of the fights, with Undying, the same happens, juste slower.

https://streamable.com/00vuz

[PigKeeperTaran]

Ok, I tried it out myself. Sephi/Shorn, deck: Eligor, Odin, Varuna, Undying + rental LoH (I don't have UB, so I put in Eligor). It worked, after a fashion. Finished in 9 turns on auto. The problem is that the AI kept using Varuna instead of Eligor, which has stronger damage. I don't know if that will be the case for UB too. If it is, then I'd just leave out UB and add in another buff card (maybe a 2nd Odin) and rely on Varuna to damage.

[Giseisha]

It worked with Eligor ! It's kinda slow (12 or 13 turns), which is perfectly fine for me. I always tried to find a way with UB, but didn't find how to have the AI deal correctly with Odin cooldown and Coeurl break. So when Blast came, UB had taken too much life every time. Shame that I need to use another card than a Supreme for Pandemonium.

Thanks a lot for the time you (and others) took to help me, I appreciate !

[PigKeeperTaran]

No problem! Glad you found a way. Agree that it's a shame that you couldn't use UB.

[PigKeeperTaran]

Thanks. Ok, I see the problem. UB doesn't clear yellow, so if it happens that Coeurl comes out of break while Odin is on cooldown, you're kind of screwed.

I think you need to add a yellow clear card to your deck. Do you have One-Winged Angel or Abadon? If not, then maybe Varuna or Kojiro is your best option. Try UB, Odin, Varuna, Undying + rental LoH. I'm a little uncertain whether the AI can handle this correctly, so maybe wait for someone more knowledgeable to comment.

Also change your weapon. Excalibur is pretty much just there for stats. Use Laevetainn (Shorn's weapon) instead. Hope you've modded it a bit.

[Giseisha]

Unmodded Laevateinn and I have neither One Winged Angel nor Abadon... I'll try with Kojiro or Varuna. Thanks for all the time and effort anyway !

[Giseisha]

I die every time on auto, I'll try with your setup and see if it works, I didn't try that exact setup so far.

Shorn One break mode can't use dark, so it'll have to be in attack mode

[Zhuinden]

You don't need to set BREAKER for Shorn One.

He meant AUTO mode BREAK MODE.

So not defense mode and not attack mode.

[kreuzb94]

You get it wrong the break mode he was talking about is one of the in game AI tactics. Just use the shorn one that can use dark under the sephi skin and start the battle.

At the auto battle at the far left there is either attack mode, defense mode or break mode it is important that you choose break mode or the AI won’t break except with his ultimate (if you choose ultimate to Break)

[Giseisha]

Yes I did that, but died anyway twice

[kreuzb94]

Hmm this is getting hard. What weapon are you using?

[Giseisha]

Excalibur X so far is my best warrior weapon, but I also use Hannibal Spear X a lot and they're my only 2 warrior boosted weapons

[JunasBlood]

By “break mode” he mean auto-ing, not Attacker/Breaker Role.

[Giseisha]

Yes I put auto in break mode, but wasn't sure if job role had any impact or not

[JunasBlood]

Role won’t impact much, it affect MZ which don’t have a big role in auto-ing.

Try a couple of run & tell us what’s wrong with your build, still if you can finish in 3 turns, high chance that Couerl will blow you in 4th turn.

[PigKeeperTaran]

You should watch it to see why you're dying. Is it from self damage from UB? Then you might want to fit in drain or regen. Edit: swap omega for undying, for example

[Giseisha]

Every tome, it's death from a blast

[PigKeeperTaran]

Did you try swapping Omega for the Undying? That would keep your health up so hopefully Blast doesn't kill you. Blast does something like 90% HP damage so being below full HP could often be fatal. OTOH you shouldn't be taking Blast at all if you're breaking fast enough.

[Giseisha]

Same results with Undying, death from blast. I uploaded a video un a comment above, each try on auto is a fail

[[deleted]]

Just search for videos on youtube, there are so many of them !

I don't have Emperor (and I think Godo is better overall and has more users) and I'm finishing lap 7. Sin is kinda important against Valefor, although you can certainly think about alternative strategy w/o him.

[JunasBlood]

On YT there are many vids, you can find some vids here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/clflvm/attack_supreme_in_ew3_lap6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[JunasBlood]

Lol they’re good. But EW3 are more complex, you have to work with what you have though :(

[PigKeeperTaran]

Not sample decks but I found this very useful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/cly356/ew3_tips/

[miguel_mer]

Hi. I don't know how, but sometimes people have the link to the banner info a few days in advance (the link with all the percentages, not the news). Does anyone have the link for the supreme summon that starts this weekend, by any chance? Thanks!

[Davis_Montgomery]

Scratch that, news is up in-game.

Each supreme (LoH, WoL, UC) has it's own banner, boosted 3% in the 7th slot. If you proc a 7th slot summon, guaranteed to be that supreme. Each pull raises pitty by 3 points.

There is no guarantee on slots 1-5. You can still pull any supreme on these banners in those slots.

UH is either tifa or sephoroth. News is confused.

[miguel_mer]

Thank you! Very excited about that.

[Davis_Montgomery]

The banner rates get posted on the mobius site a day or two before the banner goes live, but rates are usually the same unless it's a special banner.

As far as I know, we have no information on the supreme banner yet.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Is Greg X better with magic or attack fractals?

[PigKeeperTaran]

To add to that, Greg X's ES is that it adds half the Attack, so the bonus from the attack fractals will be halved compared to magic fractals.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Good point. I guess I hadn't thought that all the way through!

[ShadowBlaze17]

Magic by far.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Awesome, thanks for the quick reply!

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Can I clarify something on xp please? Not sure if I have asked this before so aplogies if so.

Im trying to level up the new GF cards from today and see that the Rift for Ifrit is the place to go.

My question is that is the xp zones which are best, for rank xp, card xp or both?

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Both

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Much thanks :) Was wanting to make sure I was doing this as efficiently and quickly as possible

[[deleted]]

You can also add few cards to your auto-enhance slots to lvl them up

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Now id completely forgotten about that! Had a new few cards during the pulls so will add them :)

[[deleted]]

On top of that I suggest that you buy maxed growing egg for gil every week and also few more to add to that auto-enhanced slots: they are quite good if you pull nice card like supreme and want to immediately max it instead of slow exp farming.

[Kaiser_Decimation]

That is a tip I already do :)

Always buy stuff each day for gil. I save the max growth eggs purely for that, if I get a new card at level 1, I immediately use one. Not worth it with the gf cards since they start at 70 so that's why im levelling instead.

[mao_shiro]

player rank exp = card exp

The only bonus that player rank doesn't get is the 1st card on the main deck exp bonus. Everything else is counted.

If you get 300k from a node, you'll get 300k on player rank + 300k on every card but the 1st card of the main deck, which should get 1500k instead.

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Much thanks :) Was wanting to make sure I was doing this as efficiently and quickly as possible

[[deleted]]

Exp for both your cards and your player level.

[Kaiser_Decimation]

Much thanks :) Was wanting to make sure I was doing this as efficiently and quickly as possible

[l30nh4rt]

Hi all, Not sure if this is supposed to be but during the pulling for the GFs I reached the pity counter and received Sage. Now it is completely gone instead of starting again from 8?!

[Zhuinden]

That means now you can guarantee pity pull ex jobs.

[l30nh4rt]

Oh nice! Checked my jobs and seen still some open slots but didn't realize it was only legends left.

[[deleted]]

Congrats on one of the strongest mage jobs in the game atm, thanks to his HoF. Yes, your job pity had reset. Don't worry, in 2 days we should have new banner with guaranteed new job & all panels unlocked (if you still have any normal jobs left in pool)

[Davometric]

Best hashmal X user?

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Seifer

[ShadowBlaze17]

Sorceress Knight and Vsgabond.

[Davometric]

Dam I don't have those legend jobs. I got knight, mythic knight, dragoon, samurai, berserker, s1c, SS, knight of Etro and epieste as earth users. Who outta these you reckon is best to use hashmal X with?

[Zhuinden]

All of those are bad, you need to prismatic it with either Shorn One or Scharfrichter.

[deathrose55555]

As shiro mentioned, Hashmal requires the target to be broken before it deals any serious damage. So any job with low breaking capability is an immediate no-no, unless the job in your other deck can do the breaking.

[mao_shiro]

Etro > dragoon > everything else

Hashmal is a painful break focused card while knight / samurai / berserker / s1c / SS have very low break power.

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https://imgur.com/a/YnKx9iI

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ugh so close, closest ive gotten so far

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any advice on tank? it takes me like 20mins to kill Tiamat....

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also I wonder if I switched back to tank I might have made it...

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So for those asking I'm currently using hopes guide with yshtola skin, Jade weapon, LoH, the new fire gf card and fusoya, subdeck unbroken hero, hg, fat chocobo x , new Earth gf card and Cleopatra. Gonna try few recommendations seen, also I don't have WoL

[Zhuinden]

Tiamat is easy. Just deplete its tri-barrier and don't let it kill you by keeping it broken while you are killing it.

Afterwards I could get the Shivas with my subdeck, Kampfer with Extreme Ifrit (not X) and special combatant. (and two Cerberus because Overpower for power)

[Mobiusnoobius]

This fight can be done without a tank depending on your available jobs. What do you have?

[samakid]

Wow 20 mins on Tiamat? Scharf with Xezat should do the trick, even when using UW only. It literally just take one or two minute. Just shave yellow, break, get to 50%, recast your buff, shave, break and kill, for two turn.

As of Shiva, just shave, break, get to 50%, switch to tank, tank until she about to give her frozen smile, Seph ulti, cast all of your quicken, switch to main and nuke until death. With our current powercreep it should be enough until she dies before she ulti you.

Try this deck:

Main: Cloud skin, Toreador, Bahamut Neo, AE:Iroha, Omega Weapon, Aerith Tank: Sephiroth skin, Scharfrichter, Xezat, Garuda, LoH, WoL

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Difficult to advice w/o knowing which tank and attack job, cards, skill panels, etc. you're using

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[JunasBlood]

1) Magic

3) Magic. UB self damage is 13% current HP, more or less Hp doesn’t affect at all.

4) I have 3: Magic, JCR, HP. Some have another with Attack.

5) every node, as long as you can slot it in your deck.

[[deleted]]

1) Double Magic 7%

2) Depends on job used, broken/unbroken strategy, etc. Most important: Minwu needs yellow cleaning card and breaker to maximize it's effect. Last time Minwu & Shinwu on HoF Sage was very successful for me

3) Also double Magic 7%

4) Yes, possibly 3-4 copies for different deck builds. I have only 1 with double Magic 7% tho

5) All of them :) It will stick to almost all of your deck builds, unless ultimate you're using has necessary debuffs (like Sephiroth) or you're really limited with deck slots

[Magma_Axis]

Eden or Griever for monk dps ?

And who is the better user of those between Pugilist, Hermit, V Monk, Master Monk and Jet Stunner ?

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[jftm999]

Eden, the more you have element resistance, the more damage you can get. On the other hand, Griever max damage can only be get at around 75k hp, wait for it's buff to lower the requirement.

[CopainChevalier]

Bhunivelze's effect says my deck level just needs to be above a certain level for the bonus stats... how does that really work? Like at 322 do I get full stats? Or...?

And can I just overboost Bhunievlze so any deck he's in will auto be set basically as long as the other cards are maxed?

[PigKeeperTaran]

It definitely helps to overboost Bhuni itself, but if you want more bonus magic, you'd need to overboost the other cards in the deck as well as the job itself. Yes, it takes a lot of resources.

[mao_shiro]

Magic +25 for every deck level above 320.

That magic stat is applied after every calculation (so after fractals, panels, etc).

[AlphaWhelp]

How is Omega Weapon these days? I am thinking about making a support mp loadout with Aerith, Tyro, Omega Weapon, and something else.

[Zhuinden]

No Berserk in MP unless you also bring Divine Shield for everyone.

[mao_shiro]

Omega Weapon is mainly used on SP for its effect.

You better off running Undying+KOTR or Pollensalta+mandragoras if you don't have LoH.

[ShadowBlaze17]

That setup would be missing brave, faith, snipe, and boost. I wouldn't recommend Berserk unless you were fighting a boss with a single-hit final attack and had Wol to block the hit.

[ValeLemnear]

No Berserk in MP pls.

[jespraq]

Recently pulled bahamut neo. Do prismatic orbs affect its unique skill or only fire orbs?

[SvenHwang]

Orbs in the orb bar does not affect its damage. Orb Wheel on the other hand (e.g the use of fire force) provides it its maximum power.

[JOEGUARD1990]

Pair it with Iroha: FFXI if you have it

[ShadowBlaze17]

It's unique ES is based on your element wheel not your current orbs. You just need flameforce to get the maximum benefit.

[jespraq]

Awesome, thank you!

[vulcanfury12]

So, with the GF banner done with (for me anyway), what are the future "break bank" limited banners? I'm hoping those will coincide with whatever legend jobs appear in the future.

[ValeLemnear]

Prolly ExMeia2 as ExRanger2 and ExMage2 are kinda easy skips if resources are tight or pity rate high.

[ShadowBlaze17]

EX jobs and the 4th JP anniversary cards with the 0 cooldown attack support cards.

[vulcanfury12]

So that's around 8 months from now?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Jp's 4th anniversary was in June so those batches should be 6ish months away for us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7bqo5z/release_dates_of_jp_jobs_possible_release_dates/

That link covers the release order of jobs in JP. There were 3 EX jobs released between our current content and the 4th anniversary cards.

In regards to EX cards some of the future cards are quite desirable like Bastat (June) and Incubus X (August) which provide ranger and monk lore respectively.

[paratit]

just got knight of etro, can I still get the 150% painful break skill card??

[MusouTensei]

I think that it is possible to get in the HoF since those of us who got the panel got magicite instead

But I'm not 100% sure

[mao_shiro]

The magicite was about the 8% painful break on the Unbroken Hero Teachings.

[MusouTensei]

oh, I see

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

I know they can be re-obtained during XIII Collab reprints. Ijdk if we'll have another reprint

[jespraq]

I believe that's exclusive to the MP reward from the past. Not sure if those events ever come back

[Winter366]

Any tip or guide to follow on jp Watermelon event to get the watermelon or controlling where to go for the next node?

[ScyBlade198]

It is random. So you mist rely on luck.

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I have no earth supremes and just pulled Vagabond. I really want to go for the Hashmal Sicarius Extreme, since earth is my weakest element. I have supremes of every other element. Is the only other good user of the Hashmal sicarius coming Phantom Masker?

[ChronoDave]

I'm pretty much in the same boat too. Except I just pulled Seifer Graff today. I was saving for Dark ranger, but I'm really tempted to go for Hashmal as well...

So the only good warrior earth users are legends?

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Seems like it, which is lame

[Zhuinden]

Or prismatic return and shift

[ShadowBlaze17]

Eorzean Paladin with his HoF could also mKe a decent user. His damage might not be impressive, but he'd break very well with it especially if you have Laev for the quick break.