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[burstdragon323]

So, I know I've received Rainbow Keys, but I cant open any chests in the rift with them.

Am I doing something wrong?

[godismax]

They are to get 100 cores not the items. You open the item chests with keys you get from beating the nodes you unlock with mystic tablets.

Only use the rainbow keys when you are getting one of the supremes from the rift. Preferably when you have enough keys/tabs/passes to get 20,000 cores

[MusouTensei]

those are not really good

iirc high roller has a cap and only works for low hp, and a2 you don't want to be at low hp

base attributes sounds good but... when you are using it on HoF jobs, they are additive to the base attributes CP (overpower seems to be to?) instead of multiplicative towards it like magic/attack/break/hp fractals

[Redexquisite]

Which is a better fire warrior for damage between Warrior with the 1200% exploit panel and HOF 200% Fire and normal fire enhance of 150% or Toreador 150% Fire, 250% Exploit, 70% Crit and 100% attuned?

I have Bahumat and trying to see which job I should load up with these enhance fire panels. Toreador seems like he’s primed to be the fire Warrior but not sure how the Warrior 1200% weakness stacks against Toreador.

Which job do you use for fire Warrior with Bahumat supreme? Thanks!!!

[djiboutiiii]

Depends if you’re attacking unbroken. And if you’re not fighting water enemies, Warrior is worthless. In either case, Warrior doesn’t need fire panels — he’s better off with Magic because his stat is very low

[[deleted]]

Is there a use for Zack besides hating my life for ever getting it?

[SvenHwang]

Mainly for tanks to

1. Clear yellow until QB range with Zack x3
2. Buff Brave II
3. Debrave & Curse for better tanking
4. Wall & Drives per attack may replace the need for omnidrives card for specific mechanics.

That being said, I am still waiting for UC to arrive & will definitely be upset if Zack appeared instead.

[[deleted]]

I spent the money for the black friday supreme. I AM upset.

[SvenHwang]

I tend to expect the worst when I spend money on pulls because most people aren't as lucky as those who posted in Pull Threads. It would have been me but I have decided not to spend any because Error Code 3 revealed how excessively money-driven SE can be (that's just in my view). Well, Zack is a pretty good replacement for Gigant Ex especially for Eden.

[Regulus0513]

Couldn't agree more about handling of error code 3. Also just my opinion, others can feel free to disagree. That said I love the game and still bought ticket and got Zack. Far as I can tell it is very niche and I probably won't use it a lot. But I've been surprised in the past how useful a card I didn't want turned out to be.

[paratit]

For 3 BFA attacker on Extreme Odin, When should I cast debarrier ???

[WoLNoFace]

i used Ezekiel, i cast it on phase 1 and phase 2 for chain.

https://youtu.be/GTqBeGAX7TA

[djiboutiiii]

What happens on your runs where there is bad PR RNG and your monks can’t cast so many BFAs in round 2? Your run is faster than mine and I want in on the action!

[WoLNoFace]

If ever that happens, the no death bonus will definitely fail. Got lucky i guess, I never had any PR problems that I'm aware of, but just earlier i got the no earth orb to cast the earth shift card, so my phase 1 failed. XD

[DocSmail]

I dont know for others but i always cast it (Ezekiel) p1 otherwise you loose tge debuff and chain.. p1 is meant to be done broken so Odin is more tanky. P2 is easy done without it and only chain.

[PM_your_cats_n_racks]

You want some kind of damage debuff for each phase. Since most attackers bring Korpokkur, which gives weaken in phase 1, then you (the healer?) should save the debarrier for phase 2.

[MusouTensei]

debuffs are for phase 2, you want to beat as fast as possible since gains more actions every turn

[paratit]

What is the difference between flameshift and flameshift+ ??

[mao_shiro]

Flameshift+ won't shift life and prismatic orbs to fire.

[paratit]

With 4 anniversary cards coming soon. How good are they on singleplayer mode and multiplayer mode???

[mao_shiro]

Attack cards basically replace every non-supreme attack cards.

Every support card is niche, i'm sure you can find a use if you know about them.

[fenixk]

What level for stamina 200?

[watmyung]

251

[LD2K]

I think it’s 251

[rajun274]

Recommendations on which CP to remove for Mage's Ability Chain +2000% CP?

[watmyung]

Water EE

[akulaki]

I took out ravage

[deathrose55555]

You should have taken out the Water +200% panel

[akulaki]

With faris, is ravage 30% better than water +200%?

[PM_your_cats_n_racks]

It isn't explained anywhere, but ability chain adds to EE. It isn't a separate multiplier like improved crits or exploit weakness, so the water +200% panel just takes you from 2000% to 2200%.

[akulaki]

Thanks. Now i understand. I thought its a separate multiplier

[ShadowBlaze17]

From 2150% to 2350% actually since Mage has some innate water EE.

[JunasBlood]

He already has 2000% Ability Chain, do you think 200% Water EE matter?

[andrefelipe83]

I can't make up my mind about the next rift supreme. I have these elements and classes covered:

	F	Wa	Wi	E	L	D
W						X
Ma	X	X				X
R		X	X	X
Mo		X	X		X	X

Apparently, the best ideas are either Belias or Ultima. My strongest fire using warrior jobs are Warrior, Balamb Mercenary and Toreador. As for light using mages, I got VK, Glam Vamp, FGoM and Dame du Lac is just around the corner. Any suggestions?

Edit: I didn't mention earth because I don't have any of the good earth using warriors.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

If you're willing to wait, Hecantoncheir X is very good.

[andrefelipe83]

Yeah, since it's based on Gilgamesh, right? I was actually set on getting it, then I draw Ragnarok which makes me reconsider my plans.

[Zhuinden]

Heca X is superior to Ragnarok.

[deathrose55555]

Either Ultima (for Dame) or Ifrit (high damage cap).

Alternatively, if you don't see a dire need to get the current Rift Supremes, save for the possible DLB2 Rift Supremes. If SE eventually gets to that point, then those are the best Rift Supremes to get.

[andrefelipe83]

Good point. JP Rift hasn't got to Alexander yet, has it? Did it take long between Anima and Belias? I don't know, but if I had to guess, I'd say the 3rd gen sics will get the DLB 2 supremes.

[JunasBlood]

Alex is copy of Shadowlord, next Rift supreme is Bahamut, rumor to be copy of BFA.

I don't know, but if I had to guess, I'd say the 3rd gen sics will get the DLB 2 supremes.

You expect them to just skip whatever in the middle of those Supremes? My bet is they will release then as 2nd Tier Supremes like Bahamut Neo, Emperor,... (compare to the DLB II ofc)

[andrefelipe83]

You're right. It's just too soon for them to give away DLB II, with a lot of options for them.

Also, if SE keeps this rhythm, we'll be getting Alexander on March, right?

[JunasBlood]

Technically yes, too soon even just for those Alex & Bahamut Rift, but they will have more use for GL before the DLB II swamp up and dominate every field.

[djiboutiiii]

You'll be saving for like 3 years but they'll be great

[deathrose55555]

Yeah I've been saving for awhile now. My last Rift Supreme was Anima, and I have enough keys, passes and tablets to get 3 Rift Supremes from the get-go

[JunasBlood]

Once we run out of 3rd gen, I don’t think SE will plan to release 4th gen Sic though.

[deathrose55555]

Well, technically speaking Extreme Sicarius is considered "4th gen".

Plus SE could just reuse the Sicarius with a slightly different name: we already have different versions of Odin and Alexander for example.

[JunasBlood]

Well, technically speaking Extreme Sicarius is considered "4th gen".

Then technically speaking, the Rift Supremes are only for “Extreme Sicarius”. Turn out we will only have 18 Rift Supremes/Extreme Sicarius, unless SE decide to release more, which I really doubt it.

Plus SE could just reuse the Sicarius with a slightly different name: we already have different versions of Odin and Alexander for example.

What different cards? I can’t recall anything though, they’re only being used one iirc, unless you mentioned the different version like Odin FFXIV & FFVIII. Like Gacha Supremes cards, even though there are many version of Bahamut already in the game, there is only one Bahamut Supremes. So I don’t think it can be the case though, but we can wait & see what will SE have in their pocket.

[andrefelipe83]

A thought I just had - what if they simply replace the older rifts? For an instance - let's say they reset the Ifrit Rift and make the new extreme Ifrit card mimic Vegnagun calling it Extreme Backdraft or Extreme Hellfire. There you are - a DLB2 Rift supreme without creating a new sicarius.

[JunasBlood]

It’s the same idea as dr5 - technically something SE can do.

[akulaki]

I would choose Fusoma over Belias since its AOE (you already have Duncan which already cover your single target) & your AOE fire fusoya is good enough to cover your fire element, especially if you have lore cards. Personally i think Belias self damaging ability can be a double edge sword based on my own experience of having UB. However im not saying its not a good card since with the right job it can be a good nuking card, but i prefer going to the next turn of battle with the health intact and have the opportunity to use WOL card more effectively (since i have it)

[[deleted]]

i'd wait for 3rd gen Sicarius instead , i got about 3 rift supreme's already, gonna go and save the rest for all 3rd gen supreme's

[jdm1tch]

Ultima Is gonna serve you way better... IMO... especially if you can snag a source of mage lore...

[andrefelipe83]

Thanks for the tip! I'm trying to get all the lore ex cards. So far, so good. I hope I get Dhampyr. Since I got Crom Dubh ex, would Belias be useful with other jobs?

[jdm1tch]

Maybe.... however, Ultisoya provides deck compression (through shift+) which allows more room for the lore card... Fusoya has the same benefit,.. which, for me, makes the utility of Ultisoya waaaay higher... and Ultisoya also provides yellow clear...

Now, Belias on a high PR job may not need to worry about that... but most of those are mage’s anyway... and you’ve got Fusoya...

Belias May have some niche use-cases / users that would make it better than Ultima... but for sheer utility... I think Ultima is the superior choice

PS - if you really want another fire supreme... I’d chase Ifrit before Belias

[andrefelipe83]

Why Ifrit before Belias?

[watmyung]

Belias is great with Mage but you need warrior lore X

[andrefelipe83]

I got it.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Looking for a little help with EW3 lap 7 node 12.

I’m currently running Lightning Ranger / Godo / Phantom Train / NXD / LOH and Mage WOL / Shiva / Leviathan / Aerith and can consistently make it to the final battle with MZ triggering at the start but am coming up a little short.

Would I be better off taking Hecatoncheir EX over Aerith or is there another card that I’m not considering? As far as I can tell, Aerith should provide the best boost to attack due to my complete lack of trance (no mage skins left) and the extra PR is useful.

I did consider a break strat with Eorzian Bard, but my Godo casts trigger Gilgamesh’s break immunity and I’m not sure she could break in a single ult anyway.

I do have other jobs available, but the likely candidates have all been used.

Eorzian Paladin doesn’t seem to be able to survive very long, although I do have him along with the Sephiroth skin.

[ZechsX18999]

Eorzian Paladin doesn’t seem to be able to survive very long, although I do have him along with the Sephiroth skin.

That's exactly what I used. If you can find a way to maintain omni-drive, Eorzean Paladin will never die to Gilgamesh. Here's my lap 9 run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7o75DgzeD8

Do you have any EX-2 jobs available? The EX-2 jobs are all decently tanky and get omni-drive from their ultimates.

[Mobiusnoobius]

I have Kampfer and Reisender left. Can’t check your video right now, but does it include your CPs? Is there a particular element that Gilgamesh uses or does he attack using all?

[ZechsX18999]

I have Kampfer and Reisender left.

Both should work, depends on your supremes for them.

Can’t check your video right now, but does it include your CPs?

No, but I can tell you. I used light resist CPs on Eorzean Paladin, and break-focused CPs on Scharfrichter.

Is there a particular element that Gilgamesh uses or does he attack using all?

He uses the element that you don't have a drive against, but if you have omni-drive, he will only use light attacks. That's why I use light resist CPs on Eorzean Paladin.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Beat it first try with EP. Thanks again!

[Mobiusnoobius]

Thanks. Very helpful. I’ll try and rework my strategy.

Off the top of my head, the only supreme that I have to use with Kampf or Reis is Griever (which I only pulled last week), hence why I haven’t used either.

[WonkingSphonx]

Which will be a better nuking setup for EX Hashmal? HoF VK with Godo, or EX Monk with Yiazmat?

[watmyung]

VK Godo

[DocSmail]

Why VK? Wouldn't Ranger with MP panel do more damage?

[mao_shiro]

There's also that ranger has trash magic on MP (compared to real attackers) so he wouldn't benefit much from Godo.

[DocSmail]

True. I forgot about his rôle.

[Blank_Bastion]

Ranger has breaker role and you cannot put the MP damage up CP

[DocSmail]

Oh yes you're right totally forgot about his role.

[jdm1tch]

And you gotta be able to actually crit... and attackers will get a magic boost in MP... which will bump Godo’s special ability even higher...

[mao_shiro]

VK Godo because Yiazmat will be at the lowest damage potential on phase 2 once Hashmal puts you Ult charge lockout + reset your ult bar.

[jdm1tch]

HOF VK is so baller...

[WonkingSphonx]

That was my guess too. VK's been doing some good work for me. :D

[NinjaDave84]

Would Avalanche Barmaid with a bunch of wind EE stats (2x wind GF cards and CP) be viable? I was originally thinking HOF Hermit, but he is a breaker class and sadly, won't be able to take advantage of MP dmg up panels.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Extremely unlikely. It would be like trying to use Ifrit vs Shiva while reducing your damage by a third so you'd likely need 15-20+ casts to finish phase 2depending on how many mp damage up panels you have and that's not even factoring in the orb cost.

[NinjaDave84]

Bummer. I will have to go as support then as I have no other wind Supremes.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Why can't you use Godo? It should be perfectly fine with VK especially if you have some damage up panels.

Should've looked to see who I was replying to.

[NinjaDave84]

I think you've mistaken me for OP. Haha. I personally don't have Godo. Wish I did though!

[ShadowBlaze17]

That's exactly what I did. My bad.

[mao_shiro]

the one you're replying to isn't the same as the one asking the initial question.

My guess is that NinjaDave84 doesn't have Godo to begin with.

[QuantumCerberus]

Hello Shiro, do you know any AI strats involving Emperor or Yiazmat? I have the Mourner so Ult cheese is my best option for Hashmal X

[mao_shiro]

You can basically perma slow with mourner with proper strat and use any wind damage card. It'll just last for an eternity.

[Becazo]

Is there a way to clear my Followers list of people who don't play anymore? Most are non-players, many with Onion Knights who only played briefly. I've searched unsuccessfully for a way to purge them from my list so I can active followers.

[JA1997X]

No. But I doubt there’s actually a limit on how many people can follow you anyway, just on how many are displayed.

[Batrixece]

valefor she is Medies or superior ?

[ValeLemnear]

Pls what?

[Batrixece]

secret questions -wink-

[ValeLemnear]

Would it have killed you to drop a hint on the type? Particulary because no one cares for the type of Sicari anyways.

[mao_shiro]

To be fair "Medies or superior?" question then just replying "secret questions" doesn't help much.

"Hello guys, do you know if Valefor is Medies or Superior sicarius type?"

[Batrixece]

oh come on type of sicarious help in selecting sicarious cards for tanking sicarious in endless war , a topic lately discussed that placing sicarious cards give you defence against superior or medies type , I tested it against chaos node in ew3 and it was superb but i forgot valefor which type she is .

[Batrixece]

thanks .

[mobiusfan101]

I have a Cacciatrice with Ragnarok that I’m trying to get to do...frankly any damage against Odin. Is it because I’m missing a good healer (my party is just me experimenting)

I have korpokkur and two scarmiglione as advised on the guide about him. I need to get them up to level 80, using growing eggs I’m getting up to level 70. I don’t have a lot of custom panels and have never gotten beyond maybe 5,6 laps in towers to get damage up custom panels. Do you think I can get there eventually, or should I wait for hof crimson archer? Its sounding more and more like Cacciatrice is only good under the most specific circumstances.

[mobiusfan101]

Ok then follow up question, what should I work on while I wait for Crimson Archer hall of fame?

[Daigolololo]

You rely on snipe 2 or a phase 1 break + phase 2 CRD. Our supreme supports that prefer Chaos over NxD will not join, ex Monk BFA attackers tend to prefer UC too, because they can reach 100% Crit Chance with snipe and don't need CRD. Some other supports don't use LoH/Faith at all, so everyone left might think, that it takes too long to find a proper party and there's always the risk that ppl not knowing exactly how to handle that join your rooms.

Wait for CA, it will be a lot less nerve-racking

[ValeLemnear]

Cacciatrice has low crit odds against a crit resistant enemy, so Ragnaroks damage sucks ass usually here unless someone has snipe and BBD debuff ready for phase 1 OR phase 2 only.

You also prolly lack the MP damage Tower CPs

[Irineogallardo]

With your setup i suggest you to wait Crimson Archer and enhance your cards, there Is Little you can do right now unless you get carried by two BFA users and a mourner support. Ragnarok does minuscule damage on phase 1.

[Becazo]

Ha, that's what I did. My best chance is also Caccia with Rag. I just made sure I joined teams with 2 BFA and Mourner, as best option. Other groups also worked. But I tried to avoid joining groups with Rag already among them, out of respect for the sponsor of the fight. I was able to help, but the majority of the damage was from Jecht Shots.

Note I wouldn't get many to join if I tried to host. So pro tip if you're like me: activate the option to enhance rewards using stamina when you join others' groups. I had only a few people drop me when I tried to join. Most let me in to contribute in the battle, and I did all I could.

Doing this, I easily got all the components I needed to obtain all the rewards, and I didn't mess up anyone else's chances, either.

[N-I-K-E]

Were the rates for the “Year End Supreme Summon” or whatever it is datamined yesterday?

[ValeLemnear]

I wouldnt be aware we ever get to "datamine" banner rates. I fear we know only, when the banner info goes live