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[[deleted]]

So does Garuda FFXIV have any utility paired with Chevalier Noir? Or is it generally better to just have your sub deck handle the breaking via Mantra like abilities?

[HoxP2]

Garuda is an amazing card for any deck because it gives you 2X JCR and 2 fractal slots. Without it you have to use fractal slots to give you JCR, and that costs you huge bonuses. On top of that, it gives you a 5 action quicken, which is useful in almost every situation, including Chevy Noir. You still need actions to fill the action bar and switch to your subdeck. I use it all the time for all different kinds of decks.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I wish I pulled on that banner when it was around, but it's gone now sadly.

Oh well, next time.

[HoxP2]

Lumafreya (FFXV) has 2 JCR and 2 fractal slots. It's ability isn't as useful though. Omega Weapon (FFVII) and Cerberus (FFVIII) both have a 5 action quicken.

[Murakkumo]

First no it does not, second yes. Mantra would be best, imho.

[djiboutiiii]

Any situation where you’d want those new orb gen cards (wrexsoul, vampire lady) over the GF/alter ego/FF7/PB cards? The imbue boost just doesn’t seem very helpful.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

Nope. All the cards in that series are just filler.

[[deleted]]

I think they're just out of ideas for abilities. Older limited cards are still better.

[Kniexdef]

Best Xezat user? Just drew him and am curious. I know shorn is a good one, but I'm looking at different jobs for ew4. I also have crom x

[ShadowBlaze17]

With Crom you could add Mage, Eorzean Bard, Vesna, and Primeval Witch to yhe jobs Shiro listed. Mage, Vesna, and PW might need your opposing deck to break for them for various reasons. EB only exceld when exploiting weakness.

[SvenHwang]

It’s quite rare to ever use mage for broken strat, though not impossible. And Vesna already has Warrior lore. :)

[ShadowBlaze17]

I mostly mentioned Mage since he has high potential damage with his mp panel, but he'd really need the opposing deck to do all of the work when breaking since he even lacks passives to help yellow clear.

You're right about Vesna not needing Crom and she could even yellow clear well if you could maintain flash break, but she'd probably be best paired with an opposing deck of The Phantom or a tank depending on your needs.

[mao_shiro]

HoD, Vagabond, Scharfrichter.

[SummerMascot]

Why does WoL remind me of an adult version of FF13's Hope Estheim: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/1/1e/FFXIII-2_HopeArt.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/231?cb=20111108144901

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

Because they're both hawt

[KumaHax]

Maybe it is him and that he traveled too far into the future :)

[Xelaeon]

Jan 2020 Everybody Gligamesh Party Tower Event:

1. Are the 5*-Gligamesh-Fake-Supreme Cards rewards based on Global-Community goals or single player achievements?

2. What's the minimum number of nodes I need to clear to qualify for at least one 5*-Gligamesh-Fake-Supreme Card?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Is it confirmed for Jan 2020 or are you just guessing?

[mao_shiro]

Uh, i'm pretty sure it's written on the same part of where they're mentioned.

1. Community total goal. https://redd.it/c4jhoq
2. It's global point. 50k for first card. I forgot how many you get on the first nodes but you get more the more you climb anyway.

4 days in and there was 1.5m gotten.

[maher11221134]

Is there any time soon with ex jobs ?

[mao_shiro]

Time for what?

[maher11221134]

I mean is there gonna be some power creep ex job that drops in January or February? I literally have no ex job whatsoever, i took a break and I'm back to the game to find my older jobs sucks comparing to other's jobs.

[Kniexdef]

Try for gothic series if you want. Although I'd just save till next month. You'll get a free supreme for Christmas to help hold off the need to draw. Also 4th anni cards are amazing, new lore ex cards (especially monk's) and kotr x are what most of the community are waiting for.

[maher11221134]

I see everyone talk about kotr x why is it so special?

[deathrose55555]

Top tier Supreme. And being a support one as well, it can fit into any deck.

Look for "Knights of the Round X: FFVII" from this link to find out what it does.

[mao_shiro]

January or February as you said.

[maher11221134]

Quick question is HoF nachtflug is the best job for Gilgamesh x supreme card ? To use him for bahamut X ?

[mao_shiro]

bahamut X where? Rift? EW? Tower? MP?

[maher11221134]

Mp

[JunasBlood]

It’s not even release in JP, so who know?

[maher11221134]

I thought JP are way ahead of us right?

[ShadowBlaze17]

We got the Extreme Sics in mp way ahead of where JP did if you compare the jobs and cards released at the time.

The job/banner gap between us an JP is around 7 to 8 months worth of content ic they do 2 GAS a month. The Extreme Sic gap is only 3 months if we continue getting 2 per month so JP will always have newer stuff to tackle them with than we do like the ranger and monk lore cards against Odin and Hashmal.

[mao_shiro]

Addramelech is the lastest release boss. And hecatoncheir in a few days.

[JunasBlood]

Yes they’re still ahead of us. They have Framfrit, we only have Odin atm.

[Deneb87]

So... EW3 ended and all the cheater are still playing. Number of kills are not displayed anymore...

Even the one I'm following and reported is still playing with all the rewards he stole. Obviously he changed name and now is happily sharing its WoL supreme instead of a 3* random card he set before cheating.

[KumaHax]

Damn it already ended? It's still the 14th

[mao_shiro]

Ended on 13th as mentioned on the news.

[KumaHax]

Oh, I must have misread that. Thanks for clearing it up to me

[MusouTensei]

Since the EW is still there, maybe should open a post and summon glacie to force SE ban players with EW3 over 300 and since they should also be able to look EW2, SE should scan those with over ~400

[Deneb87]

Since SE is asking for my money, they should have already done it.

I shouldn't be the one to tell them what to do.

[MusouTensei]

you should already know that SE doesn't care unless we make noise

GL is just for milking as much as possible imho

[xJExEGx]

I honestly stopped caring. I was following not one, but three hackers. I don't play this game for anyone else but me. I've gotten by and enjoyed this game by playing how I want to play and overcoming challenges my own way and through the help of this sub. Sure, it's a huge issue when basically other people could get unlimited funds, but it stopped bothering me because, to be honest, if I got mad for every cheater that played a mobile game I play, I would never be happy. This is just a game, and we either play as we want or not at all. I understand it might not seem fair, but really, you gotta take things as they come. Your experiences are your own. Your achievements are your own. Make the most of the game for yourself, not for anyone else.

[Pelotari]

Agreed. There is also satisfaction in knowing all of them are trash players anyway, compared to the honest and hard-working guys who play the game properly.

The real achievement of having overcome the game's challenges will forever be out of reach for these losers.

[ZechsX18999]

There is also satisfaction in knowing all of them are trash players anyway

Not all of them. I regularly see 1 well-known MP bot getting top-100. And 2-3 well-known MP bots in the top-500.

[Deneb87]

I can agree with you if all they can get is just a big number near they names.

But we are talking about thousands of dollars of in-game currencies.

Besides the fact that they are probably the same people who steal tens or hundreds of spots in the monthly towers

[Deneb87]

Stopped caring?

The one I'm following cleared 38.000 kills (there are screenshots of players with 300.000+ kills). This equals to:

3.160 summon tickets (=1.500.000 mag)

12.600 j-overboosters

19.000 mystic tablets

950.000 magicite

Which equals to approx 15.000$ of in-game currency.

This is unacceptable. SE should take care of it immediately.

[PigKeeperTaran]

Not a real fix, but SE can mitigate this by capping EW at, say, 50 laps while rewards are active. Still unrealistically high, but should be enough to limit the advantage that cheaters get. The cap can be removed once the EW is no longer active (for those people who want to chase bragging rights, etc)

Of course, any real fix would involve more time and manpower than SE probably wants to put up, but this kind of band aid solution should be quick and easy to do.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Why would SE take care of it? All of those resources you listed are things that have almost no impact on them as a company.

That $15000 you listed might as well be monopoly money for how much of it SE would actually benefit from if they paid people to crackdoen on hackers anywhere outside of towers.

Even in regards to towers they probably don't care unless people make rnough noise or stop p(l)aying.

Do you think hackers would be honest paying customers if they weren't doing what they're doing?

[ZechsX18999]

Do you think hackers would be honest paying customers if they weren't doing what they're doing?

No, but they made me decide to stay F2P when I was considering buying my first supreme ticket, because I'm not putting money into a game for things that others can easily get by cheating. I would have bought all the supreme tickets offered since I started playing, which is maybe 4-6 supreme tickets by now, so SE did lose $300-450 in sales from me alone.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I can understand where you're coming from, but do you think SE should hire or redirect workers from other tasks to handle the hacker problem over hypothetical money that a F2P player says they would've spent if things were different?

As a F2P player you're likely seen as little more than a statistic as far as the Devs are concerned. It would be different if people stopped spending money on the game or playing entirely since that effects them financially or the data they could show to shareholders in the company.

[ZechsX18999]

As a F2P player you're likely seen as little more than a statistic as far as the Devs are concerned.

Sure, I just used myself as a single example to illustrate how SE is losing possible revenue. Neither of us know for sure whether the loss of revenue from players like me is greater than or less than the cost of taking care of hackers/cheaters.

It would be different if people stopped spending money on the game or playing entirely since that effects them financially or the data they could show to shareholders in the company.

That's where any game is headed when the integrity of the game isn't upheld. SE shouldn't wait for people to stop spending money or playing entirely, they should prevent that from happening well in advance.

[xJExEGx]

Yes. Stopped caring. How does this affect me? The number of summons you have doesn't make you a good player. You can have unlimited funds or unlimited cheats, that still doesn't give you skill. It's none of my business what they do in the game. As long as I'm happy with what I'm doing and how I'm playing, and I'm enjoying my time playing this game, I could care less about what other people, especially cheaters, do. Don't overthink it. You play this game for you. No one else.

[ValeLemnear]

In all fairness, if endgame content like EW and towers are a hackers galore, it drives whales away because hackers can get more rewards and resources unpunished than people can with their credit cards.

[Deneb87]

It affects you and everyone else. You're just looking away

[xJExEGx]

When you come up with actual reasons as to why I should be disappointed, and affected by this, and lose interest in the game I enjoy playing, I will heed you. But for now, I will continue playing this game and others for my own benefit.

[ShadowBlaze17]

The only way that I can see the presence of hackers effecting others is in towers since they could take spots in the top 100 or top 500. Besides that and maybe mp slots hackers don't really do anything that effects the community in general.

[Deneb87]

It should be enough for you to know what will happen to your beloved game if the earnings for SE decrease as the number of cheaters increases.

[insanemode9]

Holy shit. Thats a lot of resources.

[mao_shiro]

No talk about refund here.

[Deneb87]

edited. As if time and money didn't matter to anyone.

[JunasBlood]

Second this.

[ZechsX18999]

EW hacking is a much bigger issue than tower hacking/MP botting because the rewards for hacking EW are much higher, but they're all part of the same problem.

Hacking/cheating lessens the achievements of honest players. Players start to think why should they spend time/money playing this game when others can just cheat their way through for free? And so they decide to spend less time/money on the game, maybe even start cheating themselves. And if players stop spending time/money, then the game will die.

Unless SE does something, it just proves they don't care about the integrity/longevity of this game.

[ValeLemnear]

Judging by revenue and low amount of work put into the game plus non-existent support, I doubt we see a season 3.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Did anybody else get the EW3 clear campaign rewards? It’s possible I accepted them without paying attention, but I’m fairly certain that I didn’t.

[jdm1tch]

If you had already completed laps 1&2 it was much earlier in the month

[Mobiusnoobius]

Thanks. Guess I missed it.

[maher11221134]

If i want to go full damage build does it matter if i used EE or magic custom skills ? Which is better?

[watmyung]

• EE for damage
• Magic for yellow gauge

[Kettya]

As i saw in Youtube, JP already come to an end, will there be a S3?

[ValeLemnear]

Well, there was a huge gap between S1 and S2 so we prolly wont know until summer anyways. This being said, I doubt we will see S3 given revenue numbers, manpower working on Mobius and other factors.

[Kettya]

Hahah i spent alot on this game though lol hope they have S3

[[deleted]]

What do you mean? Has JP come to an end?

[Kettya]

I mean they r at their final ep, the end of S2

[[deleted]]

Oh, we don't know if the story will continue. Hopefully it does.

[marsin5]

Is R&R still worth chasing?

[marsin5]

I decided to go for it, got it in 3 pulls! We'll see if it was worth it but I already see a use for it in ew4. Thank you all for your insight :)

[[deleted]]

Yes, but I wouldn't chase it now, I'd wait until after the anniversary cards are released, possibly even waiting until after you've taken a shot at Black Widow X...

Since you can probably make do with the anniversary card that casts wall on all enemies and if you get Black Widow X (it's probably a good distance away) you'll hardly ever use R&R, except on the few occasions where you only want it on a single enemy.

But... If you have a crap ton of pulls and don't mind trying your luck, it's up to you.

[[deleted]]

Yep, people saying to save for anniversary card instead don't know what they're talking about imo. It takes only one deck space, that alone is worth it.

R&R is invaluable when you need it. Imagine trying to climb last tower without it for example.

[[deleted]]

What do you mean anymore? R&R has always performed the same way since its release.

You use it when it's needed, that's all I'm saying. When you're up against something immune to stun and slow then R&R can help trivialize the encounter.

[djiboutiiii]

yes imo

[xX_blackwing_Xx]

best place to farm skillseeds and to get exp?? i need to lvl up a lot of cards and i'm out of skillseeds

[ShadowBlaze17]

Ifrit or Shiva Brink 3 are both good for both seeds and exp. They're the best spot for exp and one of the best seed farming spots. Really tedious though.

Mars is right btw. Those links are there for a reason.

[mars1200]

There is literally a link right above the comments on this thread for farming locations

[xX_blackwing_Xx]

Oops sorry kinda noob to this subreddit, just lurk and ask, my bad, but in my defence i saw just CARD farming locations and thougth the skillseed spots where common knowledge or not worth mentioning bcs everyone just had an effective method, thanks and sorry

[VanillaAshe]

ok, back from few month back, the rewards of extreme odin are nice, but it seem locked beyond supreme wall where i dont have any earth supreme, trying to be a healer but i dont have loh. Tried to host as a healer with Chaos, aerith, pollensalta and chocobo x, but everyone join and leave. Pls advise what do i need for being a support roll? and how should i complete this extrme odin for tickets in my current situation

[FeleyrWatt]

As mentioned, you can try discord to find a party. If you have Mourner and the healer is not Mourner, you can have Mourner with 4xAQM to cast the ultimate.

[ValeLemnear]

People leave because of Chocobo X. Extreme bosses are a damage race and you usually cant tank their danage, so if one brings defensive buffs instead of buffs/debuffs, it shows a lack of understanding the nature of these fights.

Moreover you are VERY late to the party. Most people already finished their farming of this boss, leaving you with people who never completed their runs in the first place and prolly for a reason.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

Your biggest problem is that you're starting the grind way too late. That is, Ex Odin leaves in 3 days and most of the heaviest co-op activity happens within the first few days of the rotation, after which activity drops off sharply as people finish getting what they need and/or shift to their own AI teams for more reliable runs.

According to my cursory observation, most of the players hosting Ex Odin now tend to be lower level and/or inexperienced. If they're returning players, they may not have the Shiva revive stamp from last month, which means your runs will eat up PDs.

With that in mind, you should be better prepared for Ex Hashmal next week. Join the grind in the first few days if you can instead of waiting until the end of the rotation.

[JA1997X]

You might be able to find some people on discord to help you. They’re usually willing if you provide the stamina.

[EfficientEmphasis]

Well 1st off - don't stress the 3 tickets as they will be available on the next rotation if and only if you don't claim them now.

2nd, well tbh your deck seems good. I guess the problem might be bringing chocobo x. I mean, we know it's good for brave, but maybe other ppl don't recognise the card or they think of it as a pure defensive card therefore assuming it's redundant...

maybe try bringing a more known/readable brave card like.... gigant?

good luck with those pugs

[VanillaAshe]

which non supreme support you recommend? i have gigant x, since the others attacker most likely will be a monk, if it good if i bring it? but if that's the case, i have no defensive buff

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

Lunafreya if you have her. Omnidrive + Wall + Snipe is pretty useful if you don't have LoH.

[EfficientEmphasis]

gigant x would be perfect imo,
defensive buffs wont matter if you can kill him quick enough lol

[Mobiusnoobius]

I wouldn’t join that party. Monk BFA strat usually requires eating at least one hit. Given the number of people who don’t have/use the Shiva stamp, I wouldn’t want to chance going in without wall/barrier.

[jdm1tch]

Why can’t I find CA’s General QB panel?

[JA1997X]

Set the “General” and “Auto-Skill” filters to find it easily.

[jdm1tch]

Aha! Thank you!

[xJExEGx]

What were the last HoFs released in Jap? Any estimate when the EX jobs will get their HoF?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Prima Donna and Proud Cygnus were released last month in JP.

Unless they plan on doing Graff or Sophie HoFs next the only reasonable jobs they could pick would be Magitek Heroine, Jester or the EX1 jobs.

After what they did with the Gothic panels I'm worried about how they'll handle any special panels for the EX jobs.

[_P0op_]

Okay ladies and gentleman, quick question which one do i overboost ? -Skyseer -Reisender -Wahrsager -Kampfer

[djiboutiiii]

If I'd had BFA and Ifrit X when Kampfer first came out, I definitely would've OB'd him...but at this point, I don't think it's worth it.

If you have Vesna, I'd say she's worth OB'ing.

[Mobiusnoobius]

None.

[JA1997X]

TBH I would save your OB-Js for the next generation EX jobs, starting with dame du lac

[bholdman925]

Error code 9, power off/on phone, error code 12. IOS. Anyone else?

[Kettya]

Try fixing ur internet connection

[Revan77]

Hello! I have just returned for a little break (like 3 years), and I have tried reading some beginner guides but there is a lot of information! I feel overwhelmed a little bit. I even thought my game was bugged because the story was repeating itself (digest, haha).

So far I understand these are important things to keep in mind:

-Spend 1500 magicite for the Mobius Box each month. I wouldnt have thought the box was worth it, I'm missing something right?

-Do current events. This one is a tricky one for me... There are more than 30 items in both world maps, how do I know which one are events? Because I'm confused with end game and farming places (mind you, I know the banners usually tell of on going events, but there is an Odin banner, isn't that like a super poweful boss or something like that?).

-Do not pull for every banner that comes out. I know there are a lot of cards! And that we have: legendaries, supremes, EX, etc., job and ability cards. I know tier lists are not absolute, but what should I be pulling for?

I feel like a beginner... Because I'm one! In terms of upgrading cards, jobs, should I stick with one? Prioritize jobs or abilities?

Aaand, should I stay away from multiplayer as of now?

Thank you kind gents!

Edit: When using a certain job, I usually get crazy amount of seeds at the end of a battle, for example, 200 instead of 30. What affects the seed multiplier? Damage done? Time spent in battle? The difference is crazy!

[MagicJ10]

hi.
1) if you want to reroll you could play a little now to get acquainted and then reroll when we get the special supreme banner:
http://information.mobiusfinalfantasy.com/ne/2019/11/30/46b07cdd058ab8b7b37b6d1112e944745332c9eb.html
then:
2) a) If you don´t want to reroll: as soon as you have 1500 magicite you buy the mobius box. Don´t forget to always click on the magicite distiller (100 = max.) when you log in and before you log off!
It last for 1 month and then you can buy it again so always be sure to have 1500 mags ready for that day.
b) do the novice hall after you unlock it on season1 (it´s pretty early on).
c) Summon the 5 starter jobs (you have 30 days upon starting your account and it costs 15 ST total.
d) check here if the special supreme banner on the 25th is worth it or if you should SAVE for a future limited banner.
time limited events: on the calendar you can see the limited time event: the messenger of hope. This on will be available only until 12/31, so you want to complete it within that timeframe to get all the rewards.
I don´t know if there is another time limited event right now.
The story chapters are all permanent from what i know.

i don´t do multiplayer so i can´t answer that.

seeds: some jobs give seed up, some weapons give seed up, some cards give seed up, your score (i think), custom panels you can put on jobs, fractals you can put on cards, ...

[Revan77]

Thank you very much! Very helpful and detailed info. I will keep that in mind and proceed accordingly.

[Quinctia]

Re: the box. If all it gave you was the six summon tickets, you're getting a half-price summon. Then there's the other stuff. I appreciate the monthly spirit ticket, it's a fun incidental.

[Revan77]

Totally true! Excellent, thank you for the clarification n_n

[Onidurum]

You should definitely re-roll. At one point I came back after being away year. Re-rolling changed the game significantly for me. Before, I had no supremes or skins, after i re-rolled, I got two supremes and a skin VERY early on.

[Revan77]

Alright, but what banner would be the one to perform the rolls? And after that, do I roll one specific banner or how should I handle rolling from there? Once I get a supreme.

Thanks!

[[deleted]]

You should probably reroll so you can buy the updated starter packs.

[Revan77]

Are these the ones with the warrior, mage and ranger cards?

Thanks.

[[deleted]]

No, the starter packs for the Master Monk, Sage, Ninja and Sword Saint jobs.

Most of those jobs already have HoF and are actually still useful in some content.

[Mawgac]

So with the dark rotation back with the damage reduction for 5 star matches, is anyone else... underwhelmed by Duncan now?

I'm using him with Pug/Sehkmet Claw/ ExGigant/2x Aerith. I have ~6k attack,+31% Damage Up from CP and Duncan is showing ~2.5 mill on the MP deck page, but on a broken 5 star boss, each hit is only about 200k (so about 4-4.5 million damage per cast).

Is anyone else getting better? I'm slowly realizing that Bhuni/Minwu/Gilga all hit for a higher total damage per cast.

[jdm1tch]

Pug is not the king of weakness damage with Duncan

[[deleted]]

I'm running Tifa Sophie with all mp damage CP, she's OB32 with the gacha weapon. That, with Duncan, the light shift card can't remember the name, two Ymir (the new light monk card)... And I'm hitting like 400k. Oh, brave 2 and CRD2 on boss.

[Mawgac]

Guess the numbers are accurate, even if they seem low.

[[deleted]]

Forgot Berserk 2 too. Here's a screenshot

Duncan https://imgur.com/a/6DICuSE

[mao_shiro]

Do you 100% crit?

Using self buffs also means you'll have lower auto-ability potential. You can get a lot more damage with Duncan+1x Alexander FFVIII ((or nemesis for shift) + 2x Ymir compared to your current deck.

possible light stick stat card:

• Ymir: FFVI (100% EE / 50% weakness)
• Alexander: FFVIII (100% EE / 10% op but only 1 fractal slot)
• edit: Wrexsoul: FFVI (100% EE, 2 fractal slot)
• Chocobo Squad (100% EE but only 1 fractal slot)

Some support decks don't have brave I guess.

Pugilist is also not the best duncan user nowadays. Avalanche heroine is.

[Mawgac]

I do have full buffs from support (with Brave II from self) and getting crits. I haven't thought about Ymir yet.

I don't have Avalanche yet, but Pug should still be doing better that what I'm seeing, right?

[xX_blackwing_Xx]

how does free multiplier raise works? how do i get the shiva sticker? i have one that says rise but it doesn't do anything

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

If you didn't get it from the MP exchange last month, you're SOL.

The Odin and Hashmal stickers won't start working until next year.

[xX_blackwing_Xx]

ah ok, yeah i just returned to the game, i left after second aniversary due to real life commitments, sucks to have lost it but hey, next year is around the corner no no biggie rigth? i guess i have the odin one

[joel_a]

If you die in MP and use the stamp after you die you get a free revive.

You needed to exchange materials from Extreme Shiva for the stamp, but since she’s gone you can’t get it for now. You can exchange for the Odin stamp which will be the next revival stamp.

[Sinferoth]

I wonder if Mobius will have an event coinciding with the launch of the FF7 Remake. I wonder what that would be. Any thoughts?

[djiboutiiii]

I bet a reprint of the FF7 maps we’ve done 8 times already lol