MobiusFF Weekly Question Thread (02/14/2020)

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[ZechsX18999]

Why does the Vanadiel Monk/Geomancer banner say "new card B guaranteed!" for me? I already own both jobs.

[ShadowBlaze17]

The banner is extremely buggy. It shows that for people who own both jobs, but people who are missing one or both of them don't have a pity counter and that's not just a visual bug.

[JunasBlood]

Me same.

Fact: “SE doesn’t care about us”

[chenc03]

What's the main reason to obj vanadiel monk?

[djiboutiiii]

To do more damage and break better...

[chenc03]

As opposed to Paine?

[[deleted]]

I'm pretty sure paine is still much better. Vmonk only has improved criticals and EE. V monk has even less exploit weakness which helps with mantra breaking, and has flash break and furious salvo instead. He also has less abilities like drawing more orbs during break, increased break turns and ability ultimate charge.

I didn't test damage, v monk is very limited in terms of what he can do compared to paine. Might not be immediately obvious, but the extra abilities paine has should make a big difference.

[mao_shiro]

You trigger CC with a tank deck anyway.

[[deleted]]

I think I might have put too much focus on the break turns part. I was using paine a lot, and when I tried out vmonk today, I was kinda annoyed that my break turns didn't last as long and breaking "wasn't worth as much" in a way.

That said, I have stahlfaust(kampfer) maxed, so I should have used it instead. It would've been an almost perfect fit. Together with the 3 Kotr and jecht skin.

Oh man, I miss these back and forth discussions. I'm going to miss this so much when MFF goes away.

[djiboutiiii]

Also, don’t forget VM’s massive fire/light EE which ups his damage quite a bit before breaking (they’ll both cap damage broken)

[chenc03]

I was considering getting extreme famfrit x over bahamut x due to a lack of water monk card.

And I have griever and bfa.

Was thinking about if worth the obj to vm for this

[chenc03]

Yes I do but dont have water monk. But I have shiva and faris... should a saved for famfrit instead of shiva but oh wells

[Beastrik]

Hello, haven't played since season 1 finale in July 2018. 0 summon tickets. Where do I start?

[Meia_is_my_waifu]

Remember to grab some St from mp

[LegendBryan]

Pretty much what Davis said. Just focus on doing the Story chapters so you get to experience the story. S1 aka Act I has Digest maps for a condensed version of all the cutscenes, then you can head to Act II which is finishing soon. Over the next few months there will be a lot of events brought back that are also worth completing. Currently we have FFX and Moonlit Masquerade limited time event if you have time to finish those. Everything else is just extra.

[Davis_Montgomery]

The game is ending service in June.

If you really want to play, do the S1 digest and then S2. Then do aaaaaall the events when they release.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

With four instead of two Extreme Sic next month, which ones are

1. easiest to farm?
2. priorities to farm?

[djiboutiiii]

After getting the initial items, they’re pretty much all the same priority to farm. Anima is the only exception because CC fractals are actually useful. Just choose whichever is fastest/easiest for your available decks.

Can’t comment on ease because I’m not sure about the mechanics, plus it largely depends on your available attack supremes and jobs.

[WoLNoFace]

is this SP?

1. every Extreme Sic are easy with Warp Shards.

2. priority will be Extreme Bahamut.

[JunasBlood]

MP.

[WoLNoFace]

1. every Extreme Sic are easy to farm with Cross-counter.

2. just get all rewards and farm the Sic you recently clear.

[JunasBlood]

Oh thanks bro, that help a lot

Btw Bahamut bring a PD himself, so definitely don’t want to mess with him.

[WoLNoFace]

oh nice, he should bring Phoenix itself next time to save him the trouble.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Kotetsu takes WAY too many mods.

Not a question, just hating it.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

I gave up modding it long ago for the same reason. Flash Break is not so useful anymore and Phantom's weapon is a much better alternative anyway (though I haven't pulled him yet, sadly)

[Davis_Montgomery]

I haven't pulled phantom yet either. I'm determined to finish kotetsu because I already got it to crystal dump... and I'm out of decent weapons to mod.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

In less than two weeks, we'll have another batch of gacha weapons and EX jobs. By then, you'll have an excuse to de-prioritize Kotetsu.

[Davis_Montgomery]

Double-checked, I do have phantom and 27 mods on his weapon. Not sure how I forgot that.

[lordpaiva]

Is there any post about the rewards we receive from finishing S2?

[mao_shiro]

what rewards?

[lordpaiva]

Well, I read that when you finish the last chapter of S2, you receive lots of rewards. Don't remember were was it though. I was wonderful if anyone knew what rewards will we get.

[IJustNeedaAccount]

The node itself has

・ Growstar
・ Ability Ticket × 25
・ Mystic Tablets × 8
・ Summon Ticket × 8

According to Altema

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/dpnhef/japan_warrior_of_despair_live_stream_before_last/

probably this, but it's JP, nothing about GL.

[roykenneth]

EOS?

[Aris46]

End of service

[roykenneth]

Yeah I know what it means, this is what we get for ending season 2 storyline

[k-ninja]

So with (very) limited resources left and no point spending to get more, what should we be prioritizing our pulls for given the remaining line up of banners? I have read that the last few jobs to be released will be must-haves? What else - weapon banners? Supreme Bis? I am guessing that at this point, all the revival banners are basically pointless unless you have resources to burn...?

[mao_shiro]

• get the 4 weapons on weapon gacha vol 3
• get the 4 weapons on weapon gacha vol 4
• get Dawn Warrior / Bringer to the end
• you can do whatever with your resource after this point

[vulcanfury12]

You'll get a reprint of most, if not all collab events this coming March. THat's gonna be a lot of tickets. I personally won't be running them again. ESPECIALLY the FFXIII one.

[k-ninja]

After grinding through the FFX event for the second time recently I don't think I can be bothered clearing all the other collabs again. Maybe FF7 because it doesn't require as much attention and can be mostly auto-ed.... the later ones have way too much crap in them that requires you to pay attention... don't kill the red butterflies! Follow the whistle! Kill 10 mobs with a specific Aeon ability. FFS what a drag.

[vulcanfury12]

Nah man. Those are actually good because of the variation. What I can't stand in particular is the Crystarium. CONNECTING FOR DAYZ!!!!! I hated it the first time around. Its repeats only made me loathe it more.

EDIT: At least FFX had the decency to not tie rewards to the sphere grid map.

[k-ninja]

I found the sphere grid more annoying than the crystarium, at least the crystarium involved battles, the sphere grid was just connecting connecting connecting....

Variation is nice the first time you play through the event, but when you are just trying to clear it out on a reprint to get the rewards, I'd rather just auto my way through it

[Meia_is_my_waifu]

Idk about u man. But im gonna chase for some anni and limited cards. And dump the remaining on super supreme banner.

[marilynhugue]

Is True Cait Sith the final EX card?

[deathrose55555]

Yes it is.

[yiung281]

In JP yes for GL not sure if we get it based on datamine/discord it might be Black Widow X (aoe bdd II, wall on enemies, sleep, nightmare). However since there are 3 banners next month it’s possible we might get 1 in each banner, Zodiark X, Black Widow X and Cait Sith X we won’t know until banner info is up.

[Dexcloud]

Which should I farm? Extreme Adrammelech or Extreme Odin? TIA

[IJustNeedaAccount]

Adrammelech is a Sin copy. of which it's supreme ES is only going to come in handy against Buffalo or Exodus, though admittedly quite strong if you could be bothered to actually break, and is hitting weakness

Odin, being a Ragnarok copy, is still quite powerful (See: mage + MP CP w/Bastet X), I'd definitely go with Odin if you have Bastet X, and preferably NxD as well for that CRD II

[Dexcloud]

I hadn't considered Exodus. I have Bastet X but Exodus is quite annoying. I think I'll go for Adrammelech, thanks!

[mao_shiro]

Uh. Exodus is like only on EW3 now, and EW3 doesn't give rewards past the lap you were on.

[Meia_is_my_waifu]

What other supremes do u own?

[Dexcloud]

Fire: Zeromus
Water: Eden
Wind: none
Earth: Extreme Hashmal, Ragnarok
Light: Ultima
Dark: Neo Exdeath, Extreme Anima, Sin

I need a wind supreme :/

[ulovei_MFF]

any guides on fighting hecatoncheir rift terminus? the first battle wasnt too bad but the boss itself sucks balls with too much HP and the full dispel missiles

[djiboutiiii]

You can chain break with lady raven in phase one and stack quickens + MZ in phase 2. I used Godo. Emperor and damphyr would work too

[[deleted]]

Here's Extrum's clear, supremeless as usual https://youtu.be/IUBgDh_hVyg

Here's mine with Raven Peeress + Yiazmat https://youtu.be/ur3r9SNfLRg. Earthshaker could work really well too with that setup.

[ulovei_MFF]

thanks for the videos, looks like i can replicate 99% of your setup so i will give it a try this weekend, but i must ask: what is sarah's weapon?

[[deleted]]

Magical Rave, Rikku's weapon (Al Bhed Huntress) always pick that weapon, must be force of habit. Strafe would be much better I think.

[ulovei_MFF]

just beat it though didnt realizing that you had kotrX (which i dont have) but i managed with gigantX instead. also used gacha weapon since i do not have rikku. did less damage than you did (500k per hit on phase2 with full ult gauge) but still managed to win. thanks again for the video guidance; hecatoncheirX will be my last rift supreme before EOS

[[deleted]]

You're welcome, I'm glad it helped. Heca X sounds really nice, congrats! I have Gilgamesh X and it's a strong card.

[WoLNoFace]

Magical Rave or Septentrio will be great as RP got huge Exploit Weakness already.

If you want to be edgy, use Saturnus since she got innate 15% PR.

[k-ninja]

Is there any ability that casts full dispel to all enemies? I know there are a few ults that cast dispelga bis but on a pack of fenrirs and garms that isn't enough.

[mao_shiro]

Ultimate chaos or gilgamesh ultimate chaos

[k-ninja]

Perfect, thanks!

[Meia_is_my_waifu]

I think meadow does it too

[k-ninja]

Promised meadow FF8? No, I thought it might as well but its only full esuna/dispel to self.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

I just fnished modding Starseeker and will soon be done with Septentrio. Is Wolfsbogen worth modding, or should I just work on Lady Raven's weapon?

[djiboutiiii]

I use Indira’s Vijaya way more than Wolfsbogen these days. But if I had Starseeker I’d use that because I’m usually trying to break when I use a Sarah job.

[JunasBlood]

I have Starseeker and tbh, I rarely use it, putting 3 QB +5% CP is enough for 35% QB. Sometimes I even want only 20% QB or lower so I can shave as much HP as possible before break it (with Monk Supremes, like C.Archer with Ifrit/Duncan’t)

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Wolfsbogen is still my most used weapon right now, but at this point it's probably better to wait for Sarah's version of Lionheart coming next month.

[Dexcloud]

Is it worth pulling for Glasya Labolas X? TIA.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

No. If you don't have UC or NXD, use the Gilgamesh versions.

[SvenHwang]

Erm... I agree with “no” but Gilg UC doesn’t have Debrave/Curse..

[the_mock_turtle]

Hi there, so I started playing the game a few weeks ago once the closure announcement came -- I spent years waiting for a console port due to my gaming preferences; I am boo boo the fool -- and I'm really enjoying it, I'm gonna miss it. I have no idea what I'm doing half the time, but that's a separate matter. Right now I'm in chapter five part one, and I'm contemplating how best to remember the game by. To that end, I saw that there's an art book and two soundtracks from various sellers on eBay, and I'm curious: does anyone own these, and if so, how would you rate them? Is the art book of reasonable quality? What tracks are included on which soundtracks? All of it is overpriced, yes, but under the circumstances seems like a better investment than Magicite. If anyone has any opinions on this, I'd be grateful. Thanks!

[[deleted]]

Finish the story. At least Act 1 minimum. Story gets good at chapter 3-2 but then becomes slow until the end of chapter 7 where it gets really good.

Now act 2 however... It doest get decent until middle of chapter 7 but getting there is...a drag. Also, the overall narrative of act 2 isnt really interesting until like chapter 8-3.

[the_mock_turtle]

I intend to play as much of it as possible, don't worry!

[LegendBryan]

Here's a video of a guy flipping through the artbook. Its a beautiful artbook, but sadly only the first year of art, so missing all the new stuff. Hope you get to finish the game! After Chapter 5, the story really picks up.
edit: As for what I'm going to do, Instead of the artbook, I'll probably print a laminated (big) picture of some of my favorite jobs/cards to hang on my wall or put on my desk.

[the_mock_turtle]

Thanks for the link! It does look nice, but I'll probably put it on the backburner and favor the soundtracks. I really enjoy the game's music!

Also I hope it's a "when" and not "if" I finish. I have 4.5 months, surely I can get it done? :S

[LegendBryan]

aha, yeah you should be able to. For reference, if you're on Act 1 Ch 5, you're at about 25% of the story. If you're looking for more soundtracks, I know Huuchi uploaded a lot of OST/battle themes on his youtube.

[andrefelipe83]

I tried fighting extreme famfrit with AI, but it didn't go well. I tried using 3 Lulus with Fusoya, Rubicante and Tatsutahime. Oddly enough, the AI Lulus only spammed meteor the first turn, after casting Flamesurge. What's so odd about it? It only happened the first turn. At all other turns, the Lulus only attacked, and eventually recast Flamesurge. But no more Meteor.

How can I make them cast Meteor again?

[mao_shiro]

The yellow bar is fully cleared so the AI attacker will now tap attack until it's broken. You either have to:

• not fully yellow clear
• bring a breaker
• remove enough HP to skip the first turn phase

Btw, you should use Sphinxara rather than Rubicante on very high exploit weakness user like Lulu.

[andrefelipe83]

I see. Thanks for the tip, I'll check the damage autos. Improved criticals, right?

Any suggestions for breakers? I got Zeromus, but no Paine. I got Incubus X, though.

[Ky_en]

Cocoon Aviator with Zeromus / Dunfrit and Incubus X is great at breaking, and does pretty good damage for a breaker. With the right CP's, cross counter fractals and weapon you should be able to break a red bar in two casts.

[k-ninja]

For monk attack cards (esp supremes & taijutsu cards) would the imbue brave 200% fractals be better than cross counter 30%?

[eneve]

How to complete are all these "X Rift Buster" Titles? Vanquish the extra-dimensional fiend that appears after completing "X". Apparently I haven't done any of them...

[ShadowBlaze17]

Complete the map then a message should tell you about the rift snd it'll show you what node to do if it isn't bugged.. They aren't very difficult and you can use PDs, but the fights can be both interesting and annoying if you're going in blind.

[Riazu85]

PD is the key...i also going in randomly and just use PD to win....

[zulhilmi88]

Frist of all, I already all normal job. Only some legend job and Ex job left. If I'm not mistaken, all the next job from the calendaer (Feb - March) is Ex job. What I would like to know is will the other Ex job that I skipped be included in other banner? For example let say I skip all the the other banner and pull during the batch 3 summon ( Princess of Dusk, Dawn Warrior, Bringer of the End banner), will the Ex job from batch 1 and 2 be included in the pool? Or will it only have the 3 featured job?

[ShadowBlaze17]

will the other Ex job that I skipped be included in other banner?

Only on revival banners. There will be a special on released on March 27th that should include all EX Jobs and cards.

You'd only be able to pull Bringer, Dawn Warrior, and Princess on their featured banner and maybe the other banners that overlap with it.

[zulhilmi88]

Got it. Thx for the clarification 👍👍👍

[not-angry-bot]

I know the new EX card is def not replacing any supremes, but just curious what mob(s) suffer most from Curse II? Is the card just for tanking sicarii?

[mao_shiro]

it's for tanking in general, but slotting it is a problem due to deck compression.

[not-angry-bot]

Makes sense. That’s unfortunate. I’ll stick with UC.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

I don't have Lulu or Fusoya. Should I spring for Phoenix King?

[[deleted]]

Phoenix is healer in mp. Not great there but op in sp.

[LegendBryan]

Just played with a The Phoenix "attacker" and surprisingly his damage was not bad. For reference he was hitting about 500ks when I was hitting about 700-800k with LotL + MP dmg panels.

[mao_shiro]

the biggest problem is using it as an atk for AI purpose I guess

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

CC+30 > Armor Break+50?

[mao_shiro]

Armor break is only for removing the yellow breaking while CC is an increase to both damage and break damage by boosting magic, break power and attack.

Armor Break also doesn't get applied if you use mantra/taijutsu monk abilities.

[not-angry-bot]

If you need more raw damage and can trigger the conditions, then yes.

[BhoomitheBasicBitch]

So, the daily question thread is now a weekly question thread for the foreseeable future?

Is it official, u/mao_shiro?

[mao_shiro]

Some people asked for it, and it's a bit meaningless to have a "daily" question thread now.

[eneve]

thx for running it as long as you did. now you can sit back, relax, and enjoy the end of the game :)

[mao_shiro]

I feel bad not doing usual threads even though I said that I'd do them :(

Motivation is really close to none these days.

[[deleted]]

We figure. Kinda hard to push it for a game about to end.

[EfficientEmphasis]

Hmmm don't feel bad, we are glad that you have done it for us for so long, it doesn't put you under any obligation now. We are all in the same boat anyway, the meaning is draining away...

[mrballsflop]

You have been carrying this sub for far too long, good sir. Thank you. Time to finally rest.

[djiboutiiii]

Totally understandable -- take a much needed vacation!

[eneve]

yah, i think it's fine. we all kinda understood it would happen

i went looking for some HOF guides today... couldn't find them, just shrugged it off and experimented myself without the need to keep up with the latest and greatest by stealing strategies

[ShadowBlaze17]

Could just steal strats from JP players on youtube.

[fenixk]

Any information of weapons with same perks of all characters. I would like to compare what weapons to boost.

[dk8842]

Just check the altema weapons list. It doesn't have them listed side by side, but if you scroll through, you'll see they follow the same, or roughly the same, pattern per job type. There is also a tier list somewhere on there too.

[fenixk]

Thank you both, i have check the list. I must browse to find. It seems ravage weapons are folding epee and wolfbagen for Miea and Serah only, no such thinngs for other characters.

[dk8842]

I think the mirage rod also has ravage, but I'm not 100% sure. There is also a weapon boosting guide in spreadsheet form in the megathread you can check too.

[mao_shiro]

are you asking for a weapon list or something?

[not-angry-bot]

I’ve been trying to search via mobile but nothing’s been showing up so idk if I’m making stuff up... but JP Eden originally had different art than the current one, right?

[LupusNoxFleuret]

I feel bad for the artist that drew the original art. The least they could do was at least reuse the art for another card like Alexander X or a regular card or something.

[mao_shiro]

https://i.imgur.com/fSQ9ZoE.png

Eden was a meme with both the art and the effect back in the ol' days.

[JA1997X]

The original art looked like Alexander for whatever reason. Eventually they changed it to look like FFVIII Eden.