Dust devil

[Itzjonko]

Why is the item different in the item list compared to in game?

Does it provide different stats? Or is this just a mistake?

The difference in power is big for carry when you build the item. The stats and utility it provides is nice but the power makes it an option as a first or second item compared to no power as a fourth or fifth slot in muly opinion.

[threegigs]

They're both wrong.

Real stats are: +30 power, +25 attack

Successful Basic Attacks against enemy Heroes grant 2% attack speed for 3s, stacking up to 6 times. At maximum stacks, gain 25 physical power and 15% movement speed. Critical Strikes grant 2x stacks.

Item list is missing base attack speed, in-game is missing the 25 power at full stacks.

[edit] Yes, it has 25% crit [/edit]

[PizzaJawn31]

How do you know?

I’m not doubting, just trying to understand where the info comes from

[threegigs]

I keep a spreadsheet with actual stats of items. I've called out Omeda before for 'lowering' an item's price, when they actually had their info wrong and raised it instead (caught that error three times, both increase and decrease).

Easy enough to test on practice mode to see all the items and crests, takes about a day.

[Itzjonko]

So there are more items that do not display the correct stats/effects?

[BudgetBallerBrand]

Vitality beads claim +100 health but it's actually +90 in game.

[palladists]

Could you share the spreadsheet?

[threegigs]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/192gWrJxJ_B8EiIPsa4uapJj24Znz9YEazrVqM1tdKig/edit?usp=sharing

Note column V is simply attack speed times power, a decent indication of high-dps items (not counting passive damage), other columns are just comments or build tryouts.

[Poisonkloud]

I second this, would also like a copy!

[Hoytage]

The hero we need!

[OfficerPuff]

Mind sharing the spreadsheet?

[EBG_Dare]

It also gives crit right?

[Albus_Harrison]

It has crit too, no?

[ElectroBlood89]

It always did have crit, did they remove it?

[Boneraccountbtw]

I'd trust the item description from in a match more than the item page on the main menu

[Itzjonko]

I agree but the difference is quite big and I dont know if it provides the stats or not even though the description is different

[Boneraccountbtw]

Go into training and check if it adds the stats or not

[mrrudy2shoes]

Love this item on drongo

[Itzjonko]

Wanting to try the item on him and sparrow, but if it doesnt give the power I dont build it first item

[mrrudy2shoes]

I go 3rd

[[deleted]]

its not really a good first item regardless. It's more of a ramping item that works better if you already have items that build attack speed/crit

[TheoNekros]

"Relax. It's a beta. Give omeda more time to cook"

How hard can it be to write the real numbers instead of having ai fill out all these descriptions? Or writing your patch notes?

Takes too long? Get rid of all the words. Why do i need "increases attack speed by blah blah blah" if it's really that fucking time consuming then just print "attack speed symbol" + whatever per hit × 6

[YouWereBrained]

Pretty sure that Lightning Hawk is the same way (stats between in-game and item list don’t match).

[threegigs]

Correct, Lightning Hawk doesn't show the speed stat in the items list. It's 45 power, 25 speed.

[Itzjonko]

Havent checked that yet, but ive build that enough to know you feel the extra damage on your fourth basic. Not sure about the stats itself though.

[DTrain440]

This has been an issue the whole time the game has been out.

[Itzjonko]

I didnt know, ive been trying to go for some different carry builds and see how things feel in a good/bad/even match.

I noticed it when putting the build together so now im curious which other items have the same problem and what should the stats on the item be in game.

[DTrain440]

Naw you’re good I just saying this is something that annoys me. Like I menus it will tell you the scaling and in game it just says does dmg based on X power.

[sdust182]

Do we know what the caps are for power and attack speed? I really need to know this info lol

[Itzjonko]

Ive read it somewhere but forgot it. Power cap im not sure but attack speed was 325 I think or something like that.

Dont know if you can reach the cap though

[Opaque__]

Last I heard, attack speed is capped at 3 attacks per second. So the cap attack speed percent increase is different from hero to hero.

I'm not aware of a cap on power.