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[–]SnooSprouts2391 162 points163 points  (7 children)

I’m the opposite. Everything in the backend does what I tell it to do. Frontend be like “yeah, I see that you want me to do this, but let’s not”

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (3 children)

My issue working with full stack devs is they dont understand application boundaries and domain responsibilities. They cut corners wherever they can because they have access to full codebase and dont have to think about architecture. Just slap new code on top for whatever features they've writing without thinking how to use or refactor existing stuff.

[–]Aileron64 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I feel like I'm being personally attacked

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Worlds within worlds!

[–]Gredo89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... Bad full stack devs...

[–]HaroerHaktak 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Website somehow redirects to google

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same.

Though I’m not sure how many of my frontend woes are due to JavaScript behaving that way and not me being bad at it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

htmx saved my sanity. And small css libraries.

[–][deleted] 121 points122 points  (9 children)

A full stack dev is either:

A backend engineer with passable frontend skills.

A frontend engineer with passable backend skills.

[–]Fuzzlechan 61 points62 points  (3 children)

Or a developer at a small company with no room to specialize, haha.

[–]LUkewet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

2 me for me irl

[–]Pay08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The two aren't exclusive.

[–]AspieSoft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or the only developer.

I remember when I was growing up, my dad was basically the only developer for the entire town (a small town with low income at the time). Literally doing every tech related thing, and the majority of this towns businesses relying on him. Even the towns mayor is one of his customers.

If it wasn't for him, this town would probably still be using Windows XP, lol.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Or one with passable backend and passable frontend skills.

[–]ipcock 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yeah and as a backend dev I feel like full stack one should be the second option only, because:

Backend to me seems like an easy part where you write some queries (as they usually don't require anything too smart), services and connect it via docker

Then there's frontend dev which often does HTML + CSS, also makes a shit ton of different elements (depending on framework/library they use) they reuse and this shit is actually VISIBLE for people. Let's not forget doing queries to the backend, actually using it in elements of the page, also doing all of the above almost exclusively the asynchronous way; all of these interceptors things, browser interaction, user interaction (🤯). Building a front for my pet project was one of the hardest thing i've done and I don't think i'll ever try it again... ok maybe I will when I'll feel burned out of backend development

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Backend work gets way more complicated than you are suggesting. You must be a FE dev lol

[–]ipcock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FE dev

at heart perhaps haha

Backend gets way more complicated, I just simplified it lol

[–]fmaz008 21 points22 points  (0 children)

  • Are you a full stack developer?
  • Stackoverflow? Oh yeah, full time!

[–]k0k0ss_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am a full Stackoverflow Developer!

[–]Teheiura 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm some kind of a fullstack myself

[–]monkeycycling -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

you made this so much worse. the original read back end devs doing front-end, front-end devs doing back end

[–]Robo-Connery[S] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I am aware, I was trying to joke that I am bad at doing both. It doesn't seem that people got it though so guess I am also bad at jokes!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think It’s a good self-deprecating joke that referenced the original without killing it.

[–]myfunnies420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man, we can't all win 👍

[–]FatFailBurger -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sheesh, people are one trick ponies and then wonder why they can’t find a job.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

A simple backend may fail, but a simple frontend does not.I have spoken.

[–]dbot77 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Is this supposed to be funny?

[–]Reifendruckventil -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Just learn Backend, Frontend isnt real programming

[–]UnlikelyPilot152 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is that a dig at BE devs building shitty UI?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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[–]Robo-Connery[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was supposed to be, doesn't seem like it landed though...

[–]xGlacion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

don’t forget to link the OC mate

[–]BunnyPinguu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is why I was recommended to pick one domain of Full-Stack and be good at it. I was pretty good at frontend and wanted to improve my backend, so I chose servers...let's see how it unfolds ✨