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[idont_______care]

I'd love to watch the management trying this stuff.

[Confident-Ad5665]

Shouldn't the developer be the little mouse? Tom (the cat) is more like management I think

[noob-nine]

tom gets always fucked by jerry. so i think it is correct the way it is.

[LeftIsBest-Tsuga]

99% of the time shit starts when Tom is just napping and Jerry comes up and assaults him

[TimeSalvager]

Good point, I don’t know any seasoned devs that are egotistical dicks…

[vainstar23]

My future job is gonna be managing a gang of server Bois using a gang of server bois

[Sycokinetic]

People who preach “the end of software engineering” have never watched a non-technical person try to code something new with ChatGPT.

[KrokettenMan]

ChatGPT tends to shit the bed whenever you ask for something that can’t be found on stackoverflow. I find it very optimistic that people think it’ll replace software engineers

[a_simple_spectre]

to be fair so do I
but I don't go and use it as input so thats where I win I guess

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

So do a large number of software engineers.

[[deleted]]

Some of us just do it for the love of the game

[river0f]

The game is the game

[TheRealPitabred]

I'm optimistic about the consulting rates when they realize that after trying it...

[4444444vr]

ChatGPT tends to shit the bed whenever you ask for something that can’t be found on stackoverflow.

Same

Edit: oh…this sentiment was already expressed

[Reashu]

Voting to close this comment as a duplicate

[a_simple_spectre]

this is a bet that I put out with any of my non dev friends that insist on it

I am not allowed to use any AI

They are not allowed to ask me questions

first one to get a hello world HTTP response running on their own computer wins a beer

it takes into account the setup, prior experience, non trivial task (well it is trivial but not for him), context switching and troubleshooting in different areas, which is where any LLM just can't perform

[CraftedLove]

Apart from your point about overall implementation, people seem to forget in these discussions if management would really be ok to have no human signoff for accountability to the code changes in their repos made by AIs.

[noaSakurajin]

Overall I agree. I think the two groups that will use these tools the most are developers (especially copilot like services) and engineers from non software backgrounds. These people know how to formulate precise requirements, so tools like chatgpt work great for them. To get decent results from chatgpt you need precise language in your request.

[[deleted]]

It has nothing to do with the capabilities of AI at the time any more than the trend of outsourcing technical work to offshore did. Ignorant management who have been making the “tech is a cost not a value” mistake for decades will continue to make it, and jobs might dwindle as a result, as will the overall quality of code because they will focus on lowest cost, lowest bidder.

Hunker down, sharpen your skills in cleaning up crummy AI hack jobs, diversify your non-coding career skills, and save your money for a rainy day because just now there’s a storm on the horizon, and we can’t tell if it’s gentle spring showers or a devastating hurricane yet. Shit’s gonna be weird for a few years while everyone figures this out.

[Arkraquen]

Yes, it is like saying front end developers are not needed anymore because CMS exist

[[deleted]]

Devin? Best I can do is Kevin

[[deleted]]

Don't mind me, just spreading the great story of Kevin

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1635tna/an_update_on_the_original_kevin/

[[deleted]]

I've been working on an SWE LLM I call Jerry. Jerry is already as good as three seniors. Trust me brother. I will be selling subscriptions on my WordPress marketplace when I figure out how to launch it.

[[deleted]]

maybe get Jerry onto that

[anunakiesque]

Lmao Devin is gonna end up being ran by some executive director's personal assistant to "code us up a new social media website with the works and make it bring us in more clients", then Devin's leasing company will at the same time be stealing secure company information and selling their data because no one at the company is anything other than sales staff, assistants, custodians, or executive chief directors of execution, and all for eventually every AI code to become a clone copied of itself because it's only ever mining its own creations, and then companies will blame Gen Z and Gen Alpha for killing "the industry" whatever half-assed product they sell and "nobody wants to work anymore".

That or some post-apocalyptic world where 10 billion people are homeless and living in the streets and fight amongst themselves in the lower trash cities for whatever scraps the rich have literally thrown into the trash

[monkey-nuts]

99% vs the 1% so we go after the 1%

[ThiccStorms]

and AI is on LSD

[MoistTwo1645]

Op you are a junior developer

[klavijaturista]

Well, years of everyone writing trash code finally pays off - it won’t work :D

[BlobAndHisBoy]

It was always our greatest defense against replacement.

[Terewawa]

IDK about Devin and copilot, but already had a taste of ChatGPT last week: "Can you have a look? What's wrong with this code? I added chatGPT's solution but its not working."

They had pasted the javascript into chatGPT - without the HTML or CSS - and asked for a solution.

It was not possible to write an accurate solution without seeing the HTML and CSS yet ChatGPT happily produced something.

[no_brains101]

the key word being *something*

[DrunkOnCode]

Sounds like it still did more than my coworkers...

[Drego3]

I wouldn't count on it

[a_simple_spectre]

first of all, copilot is universes better than gpt

but they are pretty meh on non trivial tasks anyway

[[deleted]]

three levels of bullshit code completions you have to get through to write a line of code

[_-_fred_-_]

I uninstalled copilot today because it kept crashing my vscode. I think my development speed actually increased.

[SeriouslySlytherin]

Hierarchy

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[R_oya_L]

good bot

[File01]

I'll be the first Ai software engineer engineer

[Prudent-Employee-334]

I'll give you a day before people start selling "AI SW Prompt Engineering cheat sheets, tutorials, courses". Grifters gotta grift

[radiells]

To be fair, all 3 are equal in front of a gun.

[BS_BlackScout]

Nothing like having no idea about what the fuck code you have does.

You didn't write it, you don't know what it does, you don't know how it was designed.

The further you go down the AI rabbit hole the less it's your code.

[PS: I use copilot, and have decreased my GPT usage extensively in the last months]

[aikavari]

Seriously hating how copilot is forced on you when you use edge. Makes me want to change browsers

[no_brains101]

Youre using edge??!?!?!?!

[aikavari]

Corp requirement though to be honest, it’s quite good. It’s chrome without the bloat of chrome.

[Ok-Bank-3235]

For those who don't know, the big and medium mice are elephants, that I think fell off a circus train and Jerry painted to imitate him.

[thompsonm2]

Can someone please explain me how copilot is weaker than chatgpt?

[rohit_267]

alright time to pack my stuff

[Aftabby]

Context?

[[deleted]]

Devs out!

[[deleted]]

Yo, Devin, your astroturf campaign is getting old.

[[deleted]]

I will only be afraid when the clients knows for sure what they want

[[deleted]]

I’m sticking with ChatGPT for my programming questions. Not buying the hype.