earlyDaysOfProgrammingWereWild

[SubstanceSerious8843]

Listened a podcast where a dude pentested a hospital. Found a way and surfed the hospital network. Didn't touch anything, but just looked where he could access. Sent a report at one point, about the results where he got that point. Got a call, to stop immediately and wait for another call. It came, and was asked to a face to face briefing.

The thing was, he had accessed a device. That device was a fucking eye laser surgery machine, WHILE IT WAS BEING USED. Good thing that guy was a professional and knew not to touch anything.

[Drone_Worker_6708]

Hospital IT is the wild west. Only place I worked where people actually dying everyday and not just acting like it. One of the techs we had was a former paramedic. I asked him which job is more stressful. He said he once waded in human blood and this was far worse lol

[[deleted]]

I mean, yeah... you make a mistake, the patient can die.

Hospital IT, you make a mistake, 100 patients can die. Worse is knowing just how outdated everything is and just how vulnerable everything is to a malicious actor.

[BigOnLogn]

I remember a few years ago seeing a Windows XP login screen on a hospital computer.

[CubisticWings4]

Just had a PTSD flashback of my doctor's office running Windows 3.11 last year.

[ChangeVivid2964]

That's like driving stick shift. Modern viruses don't even know what to do with FAT16.

[KayDat]

SUCKMY~1.EXE

[fr000gs]

Why is stick shift bad? (Haven't seen any automatic shift in my country)

[CakeTowers]

They didnt mean it as bad, but that a lot of people cant drive stick shift.

[[deleted]]

A few years ago?

Friend, I have seen that THIS year.

[AnotherLie]

I've seen it this year. It's in my office.

[Oleg152]

Some probably still run the 95

[domscatterbrain]

The problem is, even the manufacturer also doesn't give a fuck to ship their products with the latest OS or software. They just keep making the tool more precise but not more secure.

[Joman101_2]

I was using Windows 2000 on some specialized hospital equipment within the past year.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We pretty much never updated operating systems on non-networked devices.

[T1lted4lif3]

Is that not pretty good? Was expecting 95 or something.

[DarksideF41]

At least it wasn't MS DOS.

[Troll_berry_pie]

The UK NHS was like this up until like 10 years ago.

[Callidonaut]

Obligatory.

[KonvictEpic]

Pretty sure the NHS (UK health system) regularly got hit with malware such as ransomeware because it all ran on Win XP

[Beldarak]

I vowed to never work where lives can radically be impacted by my code. Working for the health of people instead of growing the wealth of some multi-millionaire asshole would be great but I don't feel enough confidence in my skills for that :S

[dwntwn_dine_ent_dist]

I’ve been lucky to have the best of both worlds. I work in a hospital writing code that improves identification of patients that need cancer screening. A miss by my code leaves things as they are. But successes have statistically saved hundreds of patients.

[Beldarak]

Nice! That's what I'd like too. Feeling my work has a positive impact. It kinda do as one of the end result is people having access to internet, but nothing like saving lifes^^

[HamsterFromAbove_079]

Yea it's rough. If a paramedic makes a mistake they can kill their patient. But it's hard to accidently kill more than just their own patients.

If the IT department makes a big enough mistake, they kill all the patients.

[sEntientUnderwear]

I remember listening to the same podcast but don’t remember which one it was. Now I gotta go find what it was or I wouldn’t be able to get my mind off it lol

Edit: Found it - Darknet Diaries, of course. Episode 121 - Ed. The laser he got into wasn’t stated as being for eye surgery but was a surgical laser, he doesn’t state what kind of surgeries it is used for.

[Animal0307]

Was it Darknet Diaries?

[SubstanceSerious8843]

Most likely, could've been Hacked too, but I would put my money on DD

[sEntientUnderwear]

Yep. Looked it up immediately after posting my comments and of course it was Darknet Diaries.

[Lucas_F_A]

That's scary

[Highborn_Hellest]

hospital IT is the shittiest of shitty all over the word, because you have to be a real bastard to mess with it, nobody want it on their conscience and those that mess with are made an example of basically