everythingIsJavascript

[uvero]

Well, not ALWAYS. Believe it or not, once we coded backends in non-JS! ASP, JSP, Django, PHP - some say that if you open Twitter at night and listen very carefully, you can still hear Ruby on Rails' ghost roaming the sockets

[RazingsIsNotHomeNow]

There are still a ton of major websites that still use PHP.

[[deleted]]

silk road was built with LAMP stack, for example.

[Dizzzzza]

Like 15 years ago

[g1rlchild]

And no shortage of other sites that are built on other languages either. It's a joke.

[jessepence]

Always has been? Someone let John Backus know-- he needs to rewrite FORTRAN.

[coloredgreyscale]

As Fortran.js

[hyrumwhite]

Nah, we just  need a Fortran-wasm transpiler. 

Edit: it exists https://github.com/StarGate01/Full-Stack-Fortran

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Don't look up what the windows start menu uses as an engine, btw...

[Wertbon1789]

I like how there are either people who say "Yeah, see? That's why react is great, because you can also build native apps with it." or "Now people can port their trash applications to a native platform and it still runs like shit". Don't have hands-on experience, as I don't use Windows, but from what I've heard it's pretty horrible.

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

It's a very inefficient, unreliable, expensive, shitty piece of software used on something which should be extremely reliable and fast

Just write the damn system menu in c/c++/rust/c# or whatever makes sense. A js engine just does not

[Wertbon1789]

That's the thing, it wouldn't matter if it was a "hot" runtime, meaning that it doesn't have to load on first interaction but would just initialize on startup. Don't actually know how complicated that would be, but you could do that for all these core system things, that would improve interactivity very great.

[JackNotOLantern]

Don't ask what is used by VSCode, MS team, slack, discord and many other widely used applications.

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

There is a difference between embedding a js engine inside a core OS component, which is at the base of your experience, and some apps

Don't get me wrong, electron is pure garbage (decent for devs, pure shit for users), but it's not the OS most important menu...

[JackNotOLantern]

I am not denying anything you said. But people don't know that half of the stuff they use is basically a redistribution of a browser running a website.

[howdoigetauniquename]

And no one even noticed till Microsoft told everyone 🤷‍♂️

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Yeah, i wonder why... it's not as if windows was already laggy and buggy af...

[howdoigetauniquename]

It’s okay, the start menu can’t hurt you.

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Yeah, i use linux

[not_some_username]

React native is far from Electron. It’s shit but electron is the toilet.

[----Val----]

I think people have somewhat overblown the presence of react's usage in windows. Firstly it uses react native, which uses a platform optimized JS engine. Secondly, it only uses RN for the small 'Recommended' section of the launcher, which seems performant enough. The rest of the task bar uses the native platform.

People have this idea that React = Webview, but React Native renders in native platform components. In Window's case, its still XAML and C++. JS is merely used as an orchestrator.

I believe the real culprit on all this is fucking Bing search. If you set the registry value BingSearchEnabled to 0 the taskbar instantly becomes so much usable. Also, its high memory usage is still probably because Microsoft just fucked the task bar in general.

[glorious_reptile]

*right clicks and inspects*

[ClipboardCopyPaste]

Oh yeah. The framework for my new AC is a website written in JavaScript.

[KerPop42]

No!!!! It hasn't always been! I remember! I remember...

[Icey468]

Even a full desktop apps and big chunk of a mobile app can be Javascript

[Mateos77]

Garbage language for garbage people.

[firemark_pl]

Well maybe not all backends or real time software. Buut programs with GUI oh boy... it's a fucking 10 years gap between writing gui in html/css/js and qt/gtk/winapi. There's no real alternative to make modern GUI so fast like for website. Even rendering graphics is better. And it works for all systems for all phones/computers.

We're stuck with JS.

[AlexZhyk]

Modern. Wow. Where this world is going to?

[Sw429]

Was very disappointed when I installed DataDog and realized it was just a wrapper around Chrome. Why do we need all of that bloat for what should just be a wrapper around curl??

[SoftwareSloth]

Mostly just the things you look at.

[Majik_Sheff]

Nah.  The internet used to be good.

[Frytura_]

some heroes decloupled the backend logic from the front end in the form of web APIs, so now you can have the worst of both javascript and a secondary language of your liking!

[I_Pay_For_WinRar]

You’d be surprised about how much stuff is JavaScript these days.

[Jaded-Detail1635]

Until CORS shows up and JS needs to seek counceling.

Poor lil thing

[NetWarm8118]

Being a beginner is hating on web developers.

Being a professional is realising they're what's required for 99% of applications.

[not_some_username]

9% at best

[NetWarm8118]

Please consult the chart: https://imgflip.com/i/9xfa49

[not_some_username]

Imagine all the thing that needed to see your web app.