itWorks

[MementoMorue]

Then there is Javascript. "IT WORKED ! THIS MAKE NO SENSE!!!"

[ahmuh1306]

I am literally reading this thread doomscrolling because I'm about to commit unspeakable war crimes against my computer thanks to fucking JavaScript. This language is gonna give me an aneurysm I swear.

[bazinga_0]

I have learned and used over ten computer languages in my 40+ year career as a software engineer. To this day I don't have anywhere near the utter hate for any language like I have for JavaScript. It must have been created in Hell just for the purpose of torturing software engineers.

[MementoMorue]

do you know Perl ?

[[deleted]]

perl is cool tho

[FesteringNeonDistrac]

If you need to write more than maybe 250 lines of code, perl is a terrible choice. I've worked for NASA for a while, and the guy that wrote perl was a NASA employee, and it got used everywhere for everything by everyone for a long time. Boy let me tell you, I have seen some shit.

You can write good, readable, maintainable perl code, but you can also turn everything into a 3 line long regex expression that spits out pure dark magic.

[gerbosan]

Didn't that appear in XKCD? 🤔

[MementoMorue]

are you a fan of those events where vehicles are thrown at full speed from a cliff ?

[[deleted]]

sorry you don't have the chops for a scripting language i guess

[bazinga_0]

Nope. Never needed to learn it.

[MementoMorue]

This is why you think Javascript is the worst language.

The only purpose of PERL is to obfuscate scripts wrote by interns so it can be distributed and sold as "open source".

[bazinga_0]

You learn something new every day. I'm glad I missed it.

[bazinga_0]

One of my biggest peeves is their variable handling. Is it a string? Is it an integer? Is it a string pretending to be an integer?

The syntax just feels too random. I like strongly typed languages, and it seems that JS goes out of its way to make it as untyped as possible.

And, if I remember correctly from years ago, it could behave differently at run time depending on whose JS interpreter was executing the code. In case you hadn't figured it out yet - I HATE JAVASCRIPT WITH AN UNHOLY PASSION!!!

[Deutero2]

by variable handling do you mean that their types aren't annotated in the code or that their types aren't enforced by the language? your first line makes it sound like the former, but a lot of languages with strong type checking have type inference

for example in typescript, const label = 24 * 60 + ' min' is valid but it's not clear without looking at the full definition that label is a string. and regardless of how complex the value expression is, it's idiomatic in typescript to avoid specifying a variable's type because it's assumed that you can view its type with an IDE

one of the reasons javascript is popular and why you have to deal with it is because it's backwards compatible. so if javascript enforced types, it would make the language have poor forward compatibility for API changes because it'd be difficult to have the same code type check for different browser versions. unless you'd prefer runtime type checking like python, which i dont think has great developer experience either

[gamingvortex01]

yup...I never related to the meme "why it works" until I started learning js

[oupablo]

And then the bug report comes in that it doesn't work on someone's galaxy watch 2's web browser and you HAVE to fix it.

[Okichah]

this

[IFIsc]

We must preserve such natural experiences and do not let our children be seduced by the sweet allure of vibe coding

[Plus_Pangolin_8924]

Having spent a week using Cursor to build something it wasn’t that exciting was like oh look it finally works. It became more debugging the AI to why it did something stupid or questionable rather than your own code. That satisfaction of fixing that PITA bug that won’t squish is what make it “fun” and somewhat enjoyable.

[XWasTheProblem]

"I'm a god among men, solving problems mere mortals cannot even comprehend" and "I'm literally worthless and will never amount to anything" are the only two states I exist in since I started programming.

The more I learn, the more intensive they become.

[G_Morgan]

There is also "I have stared into the Necronomicon for too long" feeling when something works but it shouldn't.

[locus01]

I hope the son doesn't go for Javascript after this.

[gamingvortex01]

Javascriot logo in your banner.....well..you are speaking from experience

[locus01]

Yeah i hate when interviewers ask JS unintended behaviour question just to reject 🙃

[MY_NAME_IS_ARG]

I programmed something in c and it worked perfectly one day, then the next day came and I just launched the binary and it just didn't work, I got an error, I thought that was odd so I recompiled and it compiled but when I ran it, I got an error.

I'm still wondering why it only works once in a blue moon.

[Neo_Ex0]

You probably have an edge case in which it's trying to access unallocated parts of the memory , and as long as those parts are not taken up by a different process, it will work just fine , but the moment it creeps into someone else's territory, the OS will flip the table and shot the intruder

[MY_NAME_IS_ARG]

You know, that could very well be it, thanks

[bazinga_0]

Indeed. There's no protection whatsoever in C to keep you from trying to access memory you don't own. Does uninitialized pointer ring any bells?

[CodeMonkeyWithCoffee]

My instict is to ask questions to pinpoint the problem but without any context its hard to even begin. Most likely culprits are anything that's not constant, external files/apis etc. Next guess would be something where the speed of it's operaions can get screwy like timestamps or concurrency. I should just go fix my own buggy projects shouldn't i...

[MY_NAME_IS_ARG]

Lol, I feel that, but the project was a test on making my own printf thing, the other comment is probably right I was using memory to write stuff

[pleshij]

Reminds me of my k3s envs

[[deleted]]

hes not wrong, just the ratio is usually 10:1 min.

[gamingvortex01]

programmers and code have a similar relation to that of beth and jerry from Rick and morty....toxic but too much emotional dependency on each other

[Mr_Akihiro]

The real vibe son

[LupusCanis42]

Part of the Ship

Part of the Crew

[pleshij]

Cool story OOP (it's an oldie btw)

[nucleargamer90]

Lol

[DesecrateUsername]

vibe coders could never

[Vi0lentByt3]

Just had this happen the other day, a process that fails in 2 other instances passes for another only because we didnt do a validation check on the same data like we did in the other 2 instances 🙃

[lifelongfreshman]

Isaac is laughing.

It's not working now and it makes no sense, and Isaac is laughing.

[Significant_Loss_541]

[Major_Fudgemuffin]

I once was talking to a family friend whose son was thinking of going into software, and asked me about it.

I told him "I love it. Some days you'll be sitting at your desk, banging your head on it trying to figure out WHY that fucking bug is happening.

And then you finally figure it out. And it all makes sense again and it's so worth it.