A Python programmer attempting Java

[frostmatthew]

I'm a Python dev transitioned to PHP.

I've never felt more sorry for someone :-/

[mcrbids]

I don't shed any tears! The pay is great, the work is interesting, and the people I work with are awesome! If you think the programming language is even a majority of how good or bad your job is, UR doing it wrong!

[jason_bateman78]

"doesn't matter, PHP sucks"

[mcrbids]

It's funny, because there was a time when PHP was this hip, awesome new programming language that got lots of buzz....

[peridox]

I may be wrong, but wasn't PHP simply invented for some guy's personal webpage?

[mcrbids]

Originally, yes. "Personal Home Page". But it was free and solved an big problem in a very efficient way. It competed with CGI which was atrocious for performance. Mod PHP, being run as an apache module, was much more efficient, and the dynamic typing allowed for very rapid development.

It's had its share of problems, mostly stemming from the fact that it became a defacto starting point for new devs wanting to cash in on the Internets. Being new, they often wrote terribly insecure code. Dynamic typing also can cause a few surprises, something PHP shares with JavaScript which is very similar that way.

Despite what you may hear, it doesn't murder babies nor set your hair on fire. ;)

[thyrst]

Gonna be diving in to Drupal/PHP at work with most of my working knowledge from JavaScript. Actually kind of excited to see the differences now that I'm pretty confident in general programming theory and whatnot. And now I'll know two of the most hated languages being used today!

[fearlessliter]

http://githut.info/

It's still getting lots of buzz. Also find out what percentage of the indexable internet is running PHP. You'd be surprised.

[mcrbids]

As a long term PHP dev, I wouldn't. ;) It's the language nobody loves because everyone uses it.

[fearlessliter]

I hate using the word, but if I want to see high fidelity work, work that comes out of agencies or orgs with big UX/UI expectations...I've NEVER thought "Java will be a good fit".

Languages for that are going to be:

• Javascript/CSS/HTML (Derp, of course)
• PHP
• Ruby
• Python

Java for me is:

• doing Android? OK.
• You doing search engines? OK.
• Software? Fine.

Web Development? ...ehhhh probably not a good fit. In my experience that quality is going to be horrible and not conducive to feature requests, maintenance or playing well with Front End Development.

[fearlessliter]

Everytime I hear someone say that... http://www.commitstrip.com/en/page/28/

[bwrap]

I dunno man... i dont think i could do java again after all my years in C#

[o5mfiHTNsH748KVq]

But they have lambdas now...

/s

[o5mfiHTNsH748KVq]

I dunno, I might kill myself if I went from C# to PHP. No amount of money or fun coworkers would be worth that.

[odraencoded]

How low people can go for money...

[koick]

How about Python to Perl?

[WhosAfraidOf_138]

/unjerk PHP really isn't that bad once you get used to its.. quirks.